X-Men'97 - Official Discussion Thread - On Disney Plus

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Marvel Animation's X-Men'97

Storm and Wolverine try to continue the X-Men. Magneto comes in and wants to step up for Charles Xavier. Sinister comes in to try to end the X-Men once and for all.
Storm and Wolverine try to continue the X-Men. Magneto comes in and wants to step up for Charles Xavier. Sinister comes in to try to end the X-Men once and for all.

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I have not checked it out yet will when I get off work but I herd nothing but good things about it

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This show in one episode made Cyclops more badass than the entire original series lol

Some cool feats for Storm and Magneto too.

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Thoughts (With Spoilers do not read if you do not want to see)

-They give Cyclops respect!! He is a total BA!

-Storm has best voice & when "Omega threat detected" came and she kill all the sentinels was amazing

-Jean is Pregnant? & Wolverine still have the crush on her?

-Roberto I hope we see alot more!

Episode 2

-Magento look kinda funny to me. Granny Goodness like

-Jean & Storm sister moment I love

-I do not want Storm to lose her powers=(

-Why can Magento & Rogue touch? She needs to be with Gambit!

-Why 2 Jeans? Is this the Madelyne?

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I was pleasantly surprised with the first two episodes!

I have some issues (Rogue's voice actor is atrocious IMO), but overall, it was great. I'm not a huge fan of the animation style though.

Storm's "Omega threat detected" moment in the first episode was very cool.

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#8 scarlet_death  Moderator

Feige better be taking notes on making Scott at least half as cool as he is in this series for the MCU.

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#9  Edited By geekryan
@samgee said:

@geekryan: Rogue is the same voice as the original one (The X-Men Animated Series) Lenore Zann

I know, I just meant the sound is totally different. It doesn't even sound like the same voice.

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#10  Edited By KillianDuclark

As someone who barely remembers the 90's show and thus has no great emotional bias/attachment to it, I must same I'm incredibly impressed.

Only two episodes in and it far exceeds my admittedly quite low expectations and overall shows great promise. Even the things that would have been corny and stupid in lesser handled marvel products like Storms' overly poetic weather pun filled monologues were played with so much sincerity and charisma it ended up being actually really cool.

Overall would say it's a solid 9/10. If it keeps it up, it could easily end up being one of best thing's the MCU has produced in a very long time.

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@geekryan said:
@samgee said:

@geekryan: Rogue is the same voice as the original one (The X-Men Animated Series) Lenore Zann

I know, I just meant the sound is totally different. It doesn't even sound like the same voice.

Mayhaps she want to make her sound older. I do not know

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#12  Edited By ParkerKent

Storm turning sand to glass. Magneto's speech to those bigots. Rogue's ... actions. Show is fire.

"GIVE 'EM THE FORECAST."

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Thoughts from the first two episodes:

  • Storm dog walked the Sentinels
  • Cyclops showing versatility and ingenuity with such a limited ability is a great update
  • Magneto figuratively and literally carried that second episode
  • As usual Jean is at the centre of the drama lol, pregnancy, romance, double's, you name it
  • Interested where they are taking this powerless Storm storyline
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#14  Edited By death4bunnies  Moderator  Online

I am someone who legit grew up with these Xmen, and im loving this.

Only through first episode, and I’m amazed. They recaptured the magic. I love the team dynamic, this is what I came for,

The slight redesigns don’t bother me, and their

use of powers is awesome.

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I’m still confused, in krakoa did Wolverine have a relationship with cyclops and jean? I thought Cyclops and Wolverine were both straight. Can anyone let me know? Because the series is portraying them as if they are just allies

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#16  Edited By Straight-Fire

Probably gonna wait till all the episodes are out before I watch it. I'm glad X-Men '97 is getting a positive reception though!

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As someone who can't rewatch the 90s show, this was pretty good and i enjoyed it a lot

How many episodes are in this season?

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As someone who can't rewatch the 90s show, this was pretty good and i enjoyed it a lot

How many episodes are in this season?

10 episodes

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I wonder if this the parallel From X2

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Well, I liked it...and that's saying something, because I hate everything.

Although, I feel like it should be called "X-Men 87" considering the stories and looks they are adapting, but, again, the X-men basically live and die by the Claremont era and everything since that era has been sort of meh.

And I feel like there was a lot of retcons, though Basically 90% of X-men lore is retconned anyways, so I guess it's fitting.

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First 2 episodes were amazing, off to a good start for sure.

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First 2 eps have been great, and the story/dialogue is everything i want from an Xmen project. I only have 2 complaints.

My 1st complaint is that the character art-style designs, while reminiscent of the original series, have a certain weird quality to it. It's lost the old charm of the original art imo. Especially with some of the characters' faces like Roberto and Magneto. In fact Magneto looked way better in the original. Someone here says he looked like granny goodness and i agree.

2nd complaint is Rogueneto. EWWWW!!! Bad idea in comics, VERY BAD idea here.

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Cyclops & Magneto carried

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Episode3

-Jean & Madelyne ate this episode

-They really trying to make Rogueneto a thing??

-I wonder how the Forge will help Storm

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Saw it....its a great cartoon, ok X-Men..... pacing is terribly rushed.....but overall it's good.

I am concerned that it seems to be made by a contingent of the "only good X-Men is Claremont" crowd, but even thats a major improvement to the 90s love fest we thought we were going to get.

Love the Cyclops respect, love the power flexes overall to be honest and Magnetos "please don't make me let you down" speech is probably one of the best and most Magneto moments in any media outside of 616 comics.

Still gonna be interesting considering some of the statements by the ppl behind the creative this season (as well as statements by people involved in the next phase of X-Men comics) to see what they'll be embracing beyond the classic 80s stories for inspiration.

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3rd episode's psychic fight was one of the best portrayal of psychic powers in movies or tv shows ever.

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@samgee: I'll watch it wen it's completely out. If it's better than the 90's one then that'll make me so happy because the 90's one is very good.

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@koays said:

Saw it....its a great cartoon, ok X-Men..... pacing is terribly rushed.....but overall it's good.

I am concerned that it seems to be made by a contingent of the "only good X-Men is Claremont" crowd, but even thats a major improvement to the 90s love fest we thought we were going to get.

Love the Cyclops respect, love the power flexes overall to be honest and Magnetos "please don't make me let you down" speech is probably one of the best and most Magneto moments in any media outside of 616 comics.

Still gonna be interesting considering some of the statements by the ppl behind the creative this season (as well as statements by people involved in the next phase of X-Men comics) to see what they'll be embracing beyond the classic 80s stories for inspiration.

Agreed with this.

Given the bad attitudes the Fox movies gave the general audiences, it this is giving people new and old a love for the X-Men, then I see only a net plus.

The portrayal of Jean Grey is already a massive improvement over the original.

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@pyrofn: Yea, that's kind of how I view it.

It's like a pallette cleanse for X-Men fans who haven't been exposed to them since the FOX movies and the original cartoon. (Which ironically was original ruined by the interpretations the original cartoon presented)

It's why I can appreciate hitting the formative pillars of Storm, Cyclops, Jean and Magnetos characters from the 80s comics even if I want to see some of the great character defining moments they got in 2000s and beyond.....its giving us a foundation that's truer to who the characters were so everyone starts with the closest thing to a pure interpretation of the comics before they expand upon it.

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@koays said:

@pyrofn: Yea, that's kind of how I view it.

It's like a pallette cleanse for X-Men fans who haven't been exposed to them since the FOX movies and the original cartoon. (Which ironically was original ruined by the interpretations the original cartoon presented)

It's why I can appreciate hitting the formative pillars of Storm, Cyclops, Jean and Magnetos characters from the 80s comics even if I want to see some of the great character defining moments they got in 2000s and beyond.....its giving us a foundation that's truer to who the characters were so everyone starts with the closest thing to a pure interpretation of the comics before they expand upon it.

Exactly. Emma would make things perfect for me, but I understand the choices and it at least makes the lore easier to digest for fans. Even if it is not 1-to-1.

Maybe fan animations will be inspired on X-Men with their relevance again.

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#33  Edited By Xogenesis

After my positive review of episodes 1 & 2, i'm disappointed to say that i hated episode 3. I really didn't like the whole switcheroo jean nonsense, and how she isn't as much madelyne pryor as she is ben reilly (really don't like the whole 'clone with exact memories' thing going on). At least it was cleared up just 3 episodes into it, but it still left a bad taste in my mouth.

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They really went for the melodrama this episode. Because Scott should be on the verge of a breakdown, given what just happened to him and his baby. Plus, it looks like Morph is in love with Wolverine? Mr. Sinister felt very comic book accurate in personality, voice, even powers. Also, glad they introduced Forge quickly. Can’t wait to see how his relationship develops with Storm. Jean the faint queen!

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After only 2 episodes….Scott and Magneto are back on fraudwatch😭💀

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I think the episode was a bit rushed, cramming way too much into a single episode. The entire Madelyn/Goblin Queen/Jean reveal is introduced and wrapped up at lightspeed. There needed to be some breathing space.

That said I enjoyed the psychic battles and the animation involving them.

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After my positive review of episodes 1 & 2, i'm disappointed to say that i hated episode 3. I really didn't like the whole switcheroo jean nonsense, and how she isn't as much madelyne pryor as she is ben reilly (really don't like the whole 'clone with exact memories' thing going on). At least it was cleared up just 3 episodes into it, but it still left a bad taste in my mouth.

Sounds more like an issue with you hating the concept, which stems from the comics, rather than what the show did. I don’t blame you. A lot just never liked that story to begin with either.

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@nassergrant19: What are you talking about?

Probably Scott walking out at the end and Magneto spending an exorbitant amount of time with Rogue.

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@parkerkent: ”Plus, it looks like Morph is in love with Wolverine?

I do sense some coding, honestly. The first producer, Beau De Mayo, is a massive Jott stan. No Logan or Emma, which could explain the attempt at trying to solidify their dynamic in the show.

That is probably the one thing I am hoping the new producer lightens on. Not because I hate Scott and Jean together. I actually love them together. But I am a bigger fan of him with Emma. Or the poly that destroyed the triangle, though honestly, I think the cartoon handled the triangle way better than the comics, which is wild to think about.

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@pyrofn said:
@xogenesis said:

After my positive review of episodes 1 & 2, i'm disappointed to say that i hated episode 3. I really didn't like the whole switcheroo jean nonsense, and how she isn't as much madelyne pryor as she is ben reilly (really don't like the whole 'clone with exact memories' thing going on). At least it was cleared up just 3 episodes into it, but it still left a bad taste in my mouth.

Sounds more like an issue with you hating the concept, which stems from the comics, rather than what the show did. I don’t blame you. A lot just never liked that story to begin with either.

Yeah i never was fond of that arc even in the comics, but i feel like i would have liked the show more if they adapted madelyne as her own "person" like in the comics as opposed to how she's just a jean with jean's memories, posing as jean, in the show. That's some ben reilly bs, whereas i found the thing with cyclops falling in love with a different woman with her own backstory named madelyne pryor in the comics more palatable, even if i never liked it to begin with. The episode itself was also extremely rushed but at least they got that out of the way quickly.

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#42  Edited By cattlebattle

I agree with people that story felt rushed and the episode was meh. You would think that the "2 Jeans" thing would have developed throughout the season and culminated later and not just completely play out within one episode.

Also, I feel like they are doing things just because they happened in the comics even if it's nonsensical in the continuity of the show. What I mean is that during the "Inferno" story Madelyne makes a bargain with actual demons and has some sort of mystical powers and then calls herself the Goblin Queen. In the show she just starts calling herself the Goblin Queen and has a demon/Limbo gimmick for no reason. The horror related stuff was nice though.

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#43  Edited By nassergrant19
@shepard-croft said:

@nassergrant19: What are you talking about?

Magneto: “Magnetism help me! This is Base Jean glass shards we‘re up against!”

Scott: *After being blinded by love* What does he even do?

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It's outrageous that they had Maddie beat Magneto. Feminism has gone too far.

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#47  Edited By PyroFN  Online

Honestly, probably the weakest episode, so far, but it is a fun one. Jubilee was always a hard sell for me personally, but there was nothing inherently wrong with her. Her older self was pretty cool.

Storm’s episode was…..eh. The reveal of Forge could have held off until a little later. The admission of love was super rushed and so out of the blue.

7/10 If this is the standard for a weak episode of the series, then I am totally in.

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@pyrofn said:

Honestly, probably the weakest episode, so far, but it is a fun one. Jubilee was always a hard sell for me personally, but there was nothing inherently wrong with her. Her older self was pretty cool.

Storm’s episode was…..eh. The reveal of Forge could have held off until a little later. The admission of love was super rushed and so out of the blue.

7/10 If this is the standard for a weak episode of the series, then I am totally in.

I wonder what Scott is doing right now. Bro is potential man at this point. His power goes crazy on episode 1, feeds families with that performance and then he just ghosts his agenda for the rest of the season?

Is he just looking up at the sky like Vegeta right now? Lol.

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@pyrofn said:

Honestly, probably the weakest episode, so far, but it is a fun one. Jubilee was always a hard sell for me personally, but there was nothing inherently wrong with her. Her older self was pretty cool.

Storm’s episode was…..eh. The reveal of Forge could have held off until a little later. The admission of love was super rushed and so out of the blue.

7/10 If this is the standard for a weak episode of the series, then I am totally in.

Pretty much this

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This episode seemed a bit out of place but at least Jubilee is more likesble and interesting character for me