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#1 Posted by primepower53 (6064 posts) - - Show Bio

Which writer has written your favorite character in the worst conceivable way possible? Not which story arc is the worst, but which writer (over several story arcs) who wrote your favorite character and you absolutely despised the way he characterized them (or whatever was bad about the writer. I'm not you. :P)

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#2 Posted by Harlekin (727 posts) - - Show Bio

Adam Beechen and Cassandra Cain

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#3 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38932 posts) - - Show Bio
Matt Fraction - Thor.
David Finch - Batman.
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#4 Edited by FadeToBlackBolt (23390 posts) - - Show Bio

Fraction, Bendis, Aaron - Cyclops

Grayson, Johns - Batman

They all completely mischaracterized the characters to the point they should have all lost their jobs on the spot.

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#5 Posted by Gambit1024 (10217 posts) - - Show Bio
  • Perez- Superman
  • Johns- Batman
  • Whoever did OMD- Spider-Man
  • Fraction- The X-Men and Thor
  • Bendis- Anyone who's not Luke Cage, Ultimate Spider-Man, or Daredevil.
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#6 Posted by Deadcool (6940 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

  • Whoever did OMD- Spider-Man

A mix between Quesada and JMS.

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#7 Posted by SmoothJammin (2646 posts) - - Show Bio

Devin Grayson on Nightwing

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#8 Posted by Gambit1024 (10217 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deadcool said:

@Gambit1024 said:

  • Whoever did OMD- Spider-Man

A mix between Quesada and JMS.

Gotcha. Probably leaning more on Quesada, then. At least JMS told halfway decent stories after the fact.

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#9 Posted by Deadcool (6940 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

Gotcha. Probably leaning more on Quesada, then. At least JMS told halfway decent stories after the fact.

JMS has a lot of good stories.

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#10 Posted by Gambit1024 (10217 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deadcool said:

@Gambit1024 said:

Gotcha. Probably leaning more on Quesada, then. At least JMS told halfway decent stories after the fact.

JMS has a lot of good stories.

Oh, now that you mention it, I think he did The Other (or at least part of it). I take that last statement back then. JMS is good.

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#11 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (17128 posts) - - Show Bio

@Fadetoblackbolt. I used to feel the same way about Johns' Batman as least In the way that he interacts with Hal Jordan but it actually makes sense. I haven't read enough of John's Batman related stff to judge on anything else though

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#12 Posted by Deadcool (6940 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

Oh, now that you mention it, I think he did The Other (or at least part of it). I take that last statement back then. JMS is good.

He wrote 74 issues from Amazing Spider-man, everything from the issue 471 to the issue 545 (OMD), in my opinion the best stuff that he wrote in Spider-man was Coming Home (The first appearence of Morlun), Happy Birthday, Civil War (Spidey's version) and Back In Black.

He also wrote the first 16 issues of Thor vol 3, Squadron Supreme, Supreme Power and Siver Surfer: Requiem (best thing he ever wrote).

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#13 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38932 posts) - - Show Bio
@Deadcool said:

@Gambit1024 said:

Oh, now that you mention it, I think he did The Other (or at least part of it). I take that last statement back then. JMS is good.

He wrote 74 issues from Amazing Spider-man, everything from the issue 471 to the issue 545 (OMD), in my opinion the best stuff that he wrote in Spider-man was Coming Home (The first appearence of Morlun), Happy Birthday, Civil War (Spidey's version) and Back In Black.

He also wrote the first 16 issues of Thor vol 3, Squadron Supreme, Supreme Power and Siver Surfer: Requiem (best thing he ever wrote).

JMS is awesome.
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#14 Posted by Gambit1024 (10217 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deadcool: I really liked his Thor. Never read his Silver Surfer, though. Can I dive right into it, or do I have to read something before hand?

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#15 Posted by BatteredArmor (6234 posts) - - Show Bio

@Avenging-X-Bolt: Read Johns Bruce Wayne Batman at the end of Flashpoint it was terrible, for some reason though he does an awesome Thomas Wayne Batman and an awesome Tim Drake Robin but he just doesn't get Bruce.

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#16 Posted by Deadcool (6940 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

@Deadcool: I really liked his Thor. Never read his Silver Surfer, though. Can I dive right into it, or do I have to read something before hand?

Nope, you can read it.

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#17 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (17128 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlackArmor. What was so bad about it? Was he an ass or something?

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#18 Posted by Mercy_ (94627 posts) - - Show Bio

Fraction - Emma Frost

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#19 Posted by Gambit1024 (10217 posts) - - Show Bio

@Avenging-X-Bolt said:

@Fadetoblackbolt. I used to feel the same way about Johns' Batman as least In the way that he interacts with Hal Jordan but it actually makes sense. I haven't read enough of John's Batman related stff to judge on anything else though

Have you been reading Justice League? Batman did something quite... uncharacteristic in the latest issue.

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#20 Posted by Deranged Midget (18346 posts) - - Show Bio

George Perez for Superman minus his last issue(Superman #6) before the creative team kicks in.

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#21 Posted by BatteredArmor (6234 posts) - - Show Bio

@Avenging-X-Bolt said:

@BlackArmor. What was so bad about it? Was he an ass or something?

The thing about how he writes Bruce at the end of Flashpoint #5 is that he writes a good person, but he writes someone that is very....un-Batman I guess. Things like flash getting into the batcave completely undetected easily, Batman showing a obviously startled facial expression, Batman crying and swaying because he's over come by emotion. Johns wrote a very nice scene but the person in the scene felt like some random dude and not Batman.

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#22 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23390 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gambit1024 said:

@Avenging-X-Bolt said:

@Fadetoblackbolt. I used to feel the same way about Johns' Batman as least In the way that he interacts with Hal Jordan but it actually makes sense. I haven't read enough of John's Batman related stff to judge on anything else though

Have you been reading Justice League? Batman did something quite... uncharacteristic in the latest issue.

Ugh, what happened now? Geez that series is terrible. 
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#23 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (17128 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlackArmor. Ahhh I understand, I actually remember seeing Batman act in a similar manner during the Infinite Crisis which as we all know was also written by Johns. I guess it might be Geoff's way of trying to humanize Bruce? Anyway I can understand fans dissent. batman is human but very complex, he handles grief in a much subtler manner but hey, you already know that. Although I did like the scene where Bats pointed the gun at Alexander Luthor. It was cool seeing Bats so close to the edge without actually breaking but it shouldn't become a habit.

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#24 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (17128 posts) - - Show Bio

@Fadetoblackbolt. I think he might be talking about Batman revealing his identity to Hal, I'm not sure, I haven't read past the first issue

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#25 Posted by CaptainCockblock (3834 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, it's shaping up to be J.T. Krul on Green Arrow.

It's a shame. I really did like Into the Woods.

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#26 Posted by jrock85 (2882 posts) - - Show Bio

Geoffcon - Batman

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#27 Posted by TDK_1997 (17572 posts) - - Show Bio

David Finch on Batman.

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#28 Posted by Nerx (15351 posts) - - Show Bio

Quesada - Spiderman (as a fan of spidey from the nineties I say fvck you dear sir)

Loeb - Ultimate Marvel (dude, a deceased son is not an excuse to be a b!tch)

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#29 Posted by Gambit1024 (10217 posts) - - Show Bio

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

@Gambit1024 said:

@Avenging-X-Bolt said:

@Fadetoblackbolt. I used to feel the same way about Johns' Batman as least In the way that he interacts with Hal Jordan but it actually makes sense. I haven't read enough of John's Batman related stff to judge on anything else though

Have you been reading Justice League? Batman did something quite... uncharacteristic in the latest issue.

Ugh, what happened now? Geez that series is terrible.

Well during the middle of battle (when you should really be only focused on important stuff), Hal breaks his arm because he's an idiot. So instead of telling him to suck it up, Batman decides to take off his mask, tell him he's Bruce Wayne, and that makes everything all better.

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#30 Posted by RPatrick (30 posts) - - Show Bio

Confused by the hatred for Fraction. His Cyclops and Emma are natural progressions from where Morrison and Whedon left them.

Best example of how well Fraction gets the two characters was the crossover with Dark Avengers and the two subsequent issues where Scott had to jump into Emma's mind to get rid of the Void-sliver.

As far as his Thor goes... the first arc with Pascual Ferry wasn't his best work...but the second arc was epic! How did you people not dig it?? Odin vs. Galactus in a psychic battle royale in space?Thor and the Surfer beating the holy hell out of each other? Kid-Loki being...kid Loki? Awesome, dynamic art? Good god, what more do you need?

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#31 Posted by Billy Batson (59808 posts) - - Show Bio

Mina on John Constantine
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#32 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23390 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gambit1024 said:

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

@Gambit1024 said:

@Avenging-X-Bolt said:

@Fadetoblackbolt. I used to feel the same way about Johns' Batman as least In the way that he interacts with Hal Jordan but it actually makes sense. I haven't read enough of John's Batman related stff to judge on anything else though

Have you been reading Justice League? Batman did something quite... uncharacteristic in the latest issue.

Ugh, what happened now? Geez that series is terrible.

Well during the middle of battle (when you should really be only focused on important stuff), Hal breaks his arm because he's an idiot. So instead of telling him to suck it up, Batman decides to take off his mask, tell him he's Bruce Wayne, and that makes everything all better.

Oh.... OK...  
 
  
(Writes Johns' name down on "Worst people alive" list next to Bendis and Julia Gillard)
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#33 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23390 posts) - - Show Bio
@RPatrick said:

Confused by the hatred for Fraction. His Cyclops and Emma are natural progressions from where Morrison and Whedon left them.

Best example of how well Fraction gets the two characters was the crossover with Dark Avengers and the two subsequent issues where Scott had to jump into Emma's mind to get rid of the Void-sliver.

Fraction's take on both characters was entirely hollow.  
"Scott's leading the X-Men now, and has more confidence... Well I best make him an unemotional Dictator" 
"Emma is confident with her place in the team and in the MU.... Well I best make her a complete tramp that's slept with every important male in the MU."
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#34 Posted by ReVamp (23015 posts) - - Show Bio
  • Krul on Green Arrow.
  • Fraction on Emma/Cyclops.
  • Bendis on fcking everything. God I have his current titles too much.

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

@RPatrick said:

Confused by the hatred for Fraction. His Cyclops and Emma are natural progressions from where Morrison and Whedon left them.

Best example of how well Fraction gets the two characters was the crossover with Dark Avengers and the two subsequent issues where Scott had to jump into Emma's mind to get rid of the Void-sliver.

Fraction's take on both characters was entirely hollow. "Scott's leading the X-Men now, and has more confidence... Well I best make him an unemotional Dictator" "Emma is confident with her place in the team and in the MU.... Well I best make her a complete tramp that's slept with every important male in the MU."

Reaches for Kitchen Knife.

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#35 Posted by Billy Batson (59808 posts) - - Show Bio

@ReVamp said:

  • Bendis on fcking everything. God I have his current titles too much.

Even Daredevil? :o
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#36 Posted by ReVamp (23015 posts) - - Show Bio

@Billy Batson said:

@ReVamp said:

  • Bendis on fcking everything. God I have his current titles too much.

Even Daredevil? :o
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I meant everything current.

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#37 Posted by ReVamp (23015 posts) - - Show Bio

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

(Writes Johns' name down on "Worst people alive" list next to Bendis and Julia Gillard)

Johns still puts out quality content and even his bad content is enjoyable if you go limp give it a blank stare. Same can't be said for Bendis.

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#38 Posted by Morpheus_ (30445 posts) - - Show Bio

Howard Mackie - Spider-Man

Dwayne McDuffie - Silver Surfer

Terry Kavanagh, JMS - Iron Man

Devin Grayson, Adam Beechen, Eric Wallace - Deathstroke

Ed Brubaker - Baron Helmut Zemo

Sean McKeever - Fantomex

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#39 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23390 posts) - - Show Bio
@ReVamp said:

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

(Writes Johns' name down on "Worst people alive" list next to Bendis and Julia Gillard)

Johns still puts out quality content and even his bad content is enjoyable if you go limp give it a blank stare. Same can't be said for Bendis.

Ehhhh, agree to disagree on that one. I haven't enjoyed anything Johns has written since he finished his run on Teen Titans. 
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#40 Posted by ReVamp (23015 posts) - - Show Bio

@Morpheus_ said:

Dwayne McDuffie - Silver Surfer

I laughed. A lot.

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#41 Posted by Billy Batson (59808 posts) - - Show Bio

@ReVamp said:

@Billy Batson said:

@ReVamp said:

  • Bendis on fcking everything. God I have his current titles too much.

Even Daredevil? :o
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I meant everything current.

Then he should write Bucky.
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#42 Posted by ReVamp (23015 posts) - - Show Bio

@Billy Batson said:

@ReVamp said:

@Billy Batson said:

@ReVamp said:

  • Bendis on fcking everything. God I have his current titles too much.

Even Daredevil? :o
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I meant everything current.

Then he should write Bucky.
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Do you know what cures this disease you have? Setting up a knife in front of you and running into it. Repeatedly.

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#43 Posted by Saren (27534 posts) - - Show Bio

Whoever wrote that Outsiders issue where Tommy Jagger beat the crap out of Bane, whoever wrote that Team Achilles issue where a guy with no powers beat the crap out of Midnighter, and Jeph Loeb for Darkseid.

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#44 Posted by Morpheus_ (30445 posts) - - Show Bio

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Whoever wrote that Outsiders issue where Tommy Jagger beat the crap out of Bane, whoever wrote that Team Achilles issue where a guy with no powers beat the crap out of Midnighter, and Jeph Loeb for Darkseid.

Greg Rucka and Micah Ian Wright.

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#45 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (45719 posts) - - Show Bio
@ReVamp said:

@Billy Batson said:

@ReVamp said:

  • Bendis on fcking everything. God I have his current titles too much.

Even Daredevil? :o
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I meant everything current.

Even Ultimate Spider-Man?
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#46 Posted by Billy Batson (59808 posts) - - Show Bio

@spiderbat87:

Well he did kill Peter and Miles has appeared in a few issues so far, lol.
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#47 Posted by ComicMan24 (147651 posts) - - Show Bio

In a few years, I will be able to answer that question.

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#48 Posted by ReVamp (23015 posts) - - Show Bio

@spiderbat87 said:

@ReVamp said:

@Billy Batson said:

@ReVamp said:

  • Bendis on fcking everything. God I have his current titles too much.

Even Daredevil? :o
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I meant everything current.

Even Ultimate Spider-Man?

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. Can't a brotha hate without being having to use logic. (And for the record, that's a no on Ult. Spider-Man)

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#49 Posted by Saren (27534 posts) - - Show Bio

@Morpheus_ said:

@CitizenBane said:

Whoever wrote that Outsiders issue where Tommy Jagger beat the crap out of Bane, whoever wrote that Team Achilles issue where a guy with no powers beat the crap out of Midnighter, and Jeph Loeb for Darkseid.

Greg Rucka and Micah Ian Wright.

Gah! I like Rucka.

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#50 Posted by ReVamp (23015 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

Whoever wrote that Outsiders issue where Tommy Jagger beat the crap out of Bane, whoever wrote that Team Achilles issue where a guy with no powers beat the crap out of Midnighter, and Jeph Loeb for Darkseid.

Well, I laughed the first one off, never read the second one but the third instance is one of the most abhorred moments in comics. That man is directly responsible for 70% of CV thinking Darkseid is a chump.