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Posted by TheAmazingSpidey (15239 posts) - - Show Bio

2017 was a pretty big year for superhero movies: we got a sequel to the beloved Guardians of The Galaxy, the first ever live-action Wonder Woman movie, the third Thor film, Hugh Jackman's final outing as Wolverine, Spider-Man's first film in the MCU, and the first ever live-action Justice League. But the question is: did this year live up to the hype, or did it only sound good on paper? (*cough* 2016 *cough*). Here's my ranking of all the live-action superhero movies we got this year. Bear in mind this list is all subjective. Spoilers for all movies except Justice League.

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6. Guardians of The Galaxy Vol. 2

Full review of Guardians of The Galaxy Vol. 2.

Imagine my surprise when the sequel to one of my favourite superhero movies turned out to be my least favourite MCU film. The plot of this movie is almost non-existant, and neither the writing or the dialogue are good enough to carry this film, as it consists mostly of cringe-worthy dick-jokes and an oversatured amount of humour. Ego's turn into villainy is rushed, and Peter's reaction to finding out Ego killed his mother ("you killed MY mother!") is some of the worst acting I've seen in a recent CBM. This movie reminded me of the Star Wars prequels - all of these beautiful CGI sets, but nothing to do in them but talking, talking, talking. The parental relationship and Yondu being Peter's REAL dad was forced, as was the cringeworthy interpersonal bond between Yondu and Rocket ("I know who you are boy... because you're ME"). That's without mentioning the generic, one-note "I wanted a sister" moment between Gamora and Nebula. 80% of this movie is people talking about stuff that happened off-screen. This is why the character development doesn't work. Because most of it is told to us, not shown. James Gunn failed to understand what was so appealing about Drax in the first film, and just made him an unlikeable dick. Top it off with a climax set in an entirely disconnected, CGI environment, and you're left with an underwritten, uneven, boring superhero movie that is in love with itself.

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5. Justice League

Full review of Justice League.

Justice League isn't a total disaster. The heroes themselves are great, the interactions between characters are strong, most of the action is a triumph, and as is expected from Zack Snyder, it is (for the most part) gorgeous to look at. These aspects make the movie watchable, but can't save it from it's lack of soul and life, rushed pacing and character introductions which gives some scenes no time to develop, and a dissonant climax. Although the heroes themselves are great, the movie could've done a much better job developing them as a team.

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4. Logan

Full review of Logan.

Logan is the only CBM this year that I've changed my opinion of since I watched it in cinemas. In spite of me liking it less upon repeat viewings, I still really like Logan and thought it was a solid movie and a refreshing change of pace for the genre. Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart both brought a lot of nuance, emotion and complexity to their roles, going above and beyond for a "superhero" movie. One thing this movie did a lot better than a lot of other superhero movies in not spoon feeding the audience, and showing the characterisation instead of telling. This is due to strong writing and acting. That said, Logan fell short of being the landmark in the genre in was hyped up to be: It was supposed to be the anti-superhero movie, but the third-act throws that out of the window in favour of a generic climax and a Wolverine clone who belongs in a different movie: seriously, that symbolism was as subtle as an adamantium bullet to the forehead. The parental relationship between Logan and Laura was underwritten and forced (I'm noticing a trend here...), and the script had a lot of issues. All in all, Logan was a good superhero movie, but I don't see the game changing, subversive, "character driven" movie others made it out to be. To end on a positive note, the score Marco Beltrami composed for this film is absolutely beautiful, and criminally underrated. Have a listen.

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3. Thor: Ragnarok

Read full review of Thor: Ragnarok.

This movie was everything that Thor as a character needed. This movie simultaneously made him a fan-favourite, all the while giving audiences the best live-action portrayal of Hulk. New-additions such as Valkyrie, Grandmaster and everyone's favourite New-Zealander were all great. This movie was bustling with life, humour and joy. I have little else to say about this movie, but I become obsessed with Chris Hemsworth after seeing it, and still am to an extent. In terms of what didn't work: the movie is lacking a solid, consistent emotional core and the action grew a bit uninteresting, but it was well-written, well-paced, well-shot and well-acted enough to make it a great movie and an absolute joy to watch.

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2. Spider-Man: Homecoming

Read Spider-Man: Homecoming review.

This is such a feel-good movie. This movie made me fall in love with Spider-Man again. The fact he's in the MCU is still surreal to me. A dream come true. I love Peter's development in this film, realising he wants to help the little guy instead of joining The Avengers. What made this movie so refreshing to me was seeing an inexperienced hero who sucks at his job, as opposed to all the other MCU heroes who have their superhero-ing together. Peter is an active protagonist, his actions constantly changing the course of the story. This is what makes it a character-driven movie and so fun to watch. It's pretty much the anti GoTG Vol. 2, haha. Also, this movie has a special place in my heart as I saw it with my brother when he visited, and we bonded over it. I find it very relatable being only a year older than Peter, and growing up loving these heroes like he did.

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1. Wonder Woman

Read Wonder Woman review.

This should come as no surprise: Wonder Woman reminded me why superheroes are so awesome, and why these characters are so enduring. It's about heroism, having belief in the good in mankind, selflessness and sacrifice. Instead of being an afterthought, these ideas and values take centre stage of the movie. Gal Gadot gives my favourite lead performance in a CBM, embodying all of these values. Chris Pine is awesome as Steve Trevor: his relationship with Diana is my favourite relationship between two characters in a CBM. Diana's journey into mankind is a fascinating journey: I loved seeing her worldview challenged. The action was awesome, the movie is incredibly good-looking and the humour landed and was well-placed. This movie isn't just my favourite 2017 CBM, it's my favourite superhero movie since The Avengers.

Thanks for reading. Feel free to agree or disagree, and share your lists and reasonings below!

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#1 Posted by Mutant1230 (3210 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm surprised Logan was #4.

But yeah, I was expecting Guardians to be at the top. I still remember our debate about it in the Forums, and how we agreed even though Ego was a good villain & Rocket Raccoon got good character development the plot had a ton of tell instead of show and quite frankly just all happened way too quickly and out of nowhere. You definitely did a good job knocking me off my high horse and giving me a reality check on that movie's shortcomings.

Good list, agreed with most of it.

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#2 Posted by Thor_Parker82 (13494 posts) - - Show Bio

Nice, I still don´t see why you don´t like GOTG Vol. 2 though, I adore that movie, whereas I think that Homecoming fell very short of its potential.

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#3 Posted by TheAmazingSpidey (15239 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm surprised Logan was #4.

But yeah, I was expecting Guardians to be at the top. I still remember our debate about it in the Forums, and how we agreed even though Ego was a good villain & Rocket Raccoon got good character development the plot had a ton of tell instead of show and quite frankly just all happened way too quickly and out of nowhere. You definitely did a good job knocking me off my high horse and giving me a reality check on that movie's shortcomings.

Good list, agreed with most of it.

Man, you are one of the best people I've debated with. You had great arguments even if we reached different conclusions about the movie.

Nice, I still don´t see why you don´t like GOTG Vol. 2 though, I adore that movie, whereas I think that Homecoming fell very short of its potential.

Ah that's a shame. I know you're a pretty big Spider-Man fan. Well, all my reasons for not liking GoTG Vol. 2 are in my review and in the list above. At least we both agree Ragnarok is awesome :)

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#4 Posted by ad-arts (1171 posts) - - Show Bio

Could not agree less with the order.

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#5 Posted by Thor_Parker82 (13494 posts) - - Show Bio

@thor_parker82 said:

Nice, I still don´t see why you don´t like GOTG Vol. 2 though, I adore that movie, whereas I think that Homecoming fell very short of its potential.

Ah that's a shame. I know you're a pretty big Spider-Man fan. Well, all my reasons for not liking GoTG Vol. 2 are in my review and in the list above. At least we both agree Ragnarok is awesome :)

Don´t get me wrong, I enjoyed Homecoming a lot and it´s a great movie, I was just expecting much more, it could have been way better.

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#6 Edited by Shamshi (229 posts) - - Show Bio

@ad-arts said:

Could not agree less with the order.

Feel the same but everyone has different taste.

My order -

1. Logan

2. WW

3. Thor

4. JL

5. Spiderman

6. GotG 2

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#7 Posted by TheAmazingSpidey (15239 posts) - - Show Bio

@ad-arts said:

Could not agree less with the order.

Do you agree with the movies on my list though? :P

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#8 Edited by Farkam (10522 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor > Spidey > Wondy > Logan > GotG > JL

edit: I'm gonna give Spidey a re-watch.

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#9 Edited by ad-arts (1171 posts) - - Show Bio

@ad-arts said:

Could not agree less with the order.

Do you agree with the movies on my list though? :P

Difficult to disagree, there wasn't too many of them :)

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#10 Posted by jloneblackheart (8640 posts) - - Show Bio

Nice read.

This also serves as a realization that I didn't see any movies in 2017.

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#11 Posted by Mutant1230 (3210 posts) - - Show Bio

@theamazingspidey: That actually means so much to me, especially coming from someone like you! You're honestly a great debater and writer, even if we do happen to disagree on stuff like this it's always a joy to talk to you!

:)

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#12 Posted by Manchine (6048 posts) - - Show Bio

My Order
6. Logan

5. Justice Leaguer

4. Guardians of The Galaxy II

3. Spiderman Homecoming

2. Wonder Woman

1. Thor

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#13 Posted by from_beyond (742 posts) - - Show Bio

My order:

1 - Logan

2 - Homecoming

3 - Ragnarok

4 - Justice League

5 - Wonder Woman

6 - Gotg 2

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#14 Posted by black_wreath (13373 posts) - - Show Bio

Having a hard time working my own ranking out but great list, well-written and justified. Strange I'm actually finally re-watching Spider-Man: Lego Death Star Commercial right now. This kid's accent is bugging me more than the first time but Keaton is amazing.

Nice work, Pod.

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#15 Posted by ignVela (97 posts) - - Show Bio

Ppl have very different taste than me. I couldn't stand wonder woman. Most of my friends who never ever watched or read comics tagged along with me to see wonder woman as sorta like an obligation that everyone must like the movie because it's about woman empowerment.

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#16 Posted by All-Father (4696 posts) - - Show Bio

I consider Homecoming to be one of the most boring CB's ever made.

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#17 Edited by B1ack0ut (68 posts) - - Show Bio

I watched all of them except for JL. In terms of being well-put together, fun, and emotional impact, it'd be.

GotG

Thor

Spiderman

Logan

Wonder Woman

JL

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#18 Posted by Battle123axe (5714 posts) - - Show Bio

great list

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#19 Posted by TDK_1997 (17850 posts) - - Show Bio

Interesting order, definitely did not expect it to be like that.

My list is like this(I haven't seen Thor so far):

  1. Logan
  2. Wonder Woman
  3. Guardians of the Galaxy vol.2
  4. Spider-Man: Homecoming
  5. Justice League
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#20 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (9294 posts) - - Show Bio

Not a bad list.

1: Wonder Woman

2: Logan

3: Justice League

4: Thor Ragnarok

5: Spider-Man Homecoming

6: GOTG

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#21 Posted by tj849 (4174 posts) - - Show Bio

Cool, mine is

1. Homecoming

2. Wonder Woman

3. Logan

4. Justice League

5. Thor Ragnarok

6. GOTG 2.

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#22 Posted by FangDaNerd (1101 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Thor R

2. Wonder Woman

3. Spider-Man HC

4. Logan

5. Guardians of the Galaxy

6. JL (I enjoyed JL but I liked guardians a little better)

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#23 Posted by CurlyInsaneGuy (397 posts) - - Show Bio

I didn’t see Logan, so I can’t factor that one in. I’d say my list would go:

1. Thor: Ragnarok

2. Wonder Woman

3. Spider-Man Homecoming

4. Justice League

5. Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2

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#24 Posted by Wolviesnikt (35 posts) - - Show Bio

1-Logan

2-Thor: Ragnarok

3- Wonder Woman

4-GoG 2

5-Justice League and Spider-man Homecoming

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#25 Posted by modernww2fare (5346 posts) - - Show Bio

Awesome list!

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#26 Posted by black_wreath (13373 posts) - - Show Bio

Where abouts would the likes of Valerian, Atomic Blonde and Kingsman 2 rank?

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#27 Posted by FirestormFate1919 (4333 posts) - - Show Bio

Interesting list, but suprised to see Logan so low. I'd probably go:

1. Logan

2. Wonder Woman

3. Justice League

4. Spiderman: Homecoming

5. Thor: Ragnarok

6. GOTG 2

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#28 Posted by TVC-15 (5072 posts) - - Show Bio

Homecoming>Justice League>GoTG 2>Ragnarok>Wonder Woman>Logan

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#29 Edited by The_Kidd (8790 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Logan

2. Thor: Ragnarok

3. Wonder Woman

4. GoTG Vol. 2

5. Justice League

6. Spider-Man

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#30 Posted by MonsterStomp (35347 posts) - - Show Bio

Fair list. I disagree with Logan, JL and Thor, but what are you gonna do?

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#31 Posted by DonWayneII (432 posts) - - Show Bio

@all-father said:

I consider Homecoming to be one of the most boring CB's ever made.

someone said it

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#32 Posted by TheSpartanB345T (1969 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Logan

2. Thor

3. Spidey

4. Wonder Woman

5. Justice League

6. GotG Vol 2

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#33 Posted by Trust_This_786 (1623 posts) - - Show Bio

Everyone on this site hates GOTG 2 lol

1: Logan

2: GOTG 2

3: Wonder Woman

4: Ragnorock

5: Homecoming

6: JL

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#34 Posted by Firedude17 (1347 posts) - - Show Bio

1.Logan

2.JLA

3.WW

4.Thor

5.GOTG2

6.Homecoming

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#35 Posted by mrmonster (5653 posts) - - Show Bio
  1. Logan
  2. Spider-Man: Homecoming
  3. Justice League
  4. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
  5. Wonder Woman
  6. Thor: Ragnarok