Wonder Woman banned in Lebanon

Wonder Woman has been recently banned in Lebanon due to the fact that the lead actress (Gal Gadot) is Israeli.

Lebanon and Arab countries in General have bad blood with Israel, which is why i assume it was banned.

Or it's probably because of the 2006 War on Lebanon.

Try to keep it civil and don't be racist to anyone.

@all-father: You should edit the OP and add "in lebanon" I didn't understand at first.

Yeah. It sounded like the Movie banned the country and not vice-verse

Thank God I don't live in a country where they can ban movies "Just cause".

Will do.

Right. Merica is seeing some dark days but banning movies is probably just one notch above banning books.

@fallschirmjager: So true.

Damn it! Thats a whole $400 missed by WB

How terrible. Not because of the movie itself, but because of the hate that prompted this movie to get banned.

Let's be honest though. There are many in America who make a good effort to see it happens for both books, movies with various degrees of success and failures.

The patriarchy strikes again.

@dernman: There are some... notable... people from both sides of two franchises that seem to actively want the other franchise to fail lol

I can understand them banning it, though do not agree with it.

Sides are evil. Long live corners.

@all-father: Lebonese people are not Arabs

@mrmonster:

My thoughts Exactly

@all-father: "2006 attacks on Lebanon"... you do know that war started when the Hezbollah fired a rocket at an Israeli patrol on the Lebanese border and abducted the bodies of the soldiers that were killed. And all throughout the war Israel targrted only Hezbollah targets while the Hezbollah just fired rockets on civilian population. Gotta love those alternative facts, "2006 attacks on Lebanon"... good one.

@the_red_viper: when you say throughout the war they only attacked hezbollah targets do you mean through the whole conflict or in 2006?

@redxiii18881990: Both.

heh

@the_red_viper: Israel struck 7 UN sites used as civilian shelters a few years ago.

@redxiii18881990: Yeah, of course. And we are also behind 9/11 and we drowned Atlantis.

I wonder if Aquaman will be banned in SeaWorld

@the_red_viper: just because you refuse to acknowledge it doesn't mean it didn't happen. The UN Secretary General investigated this and concluded that 44 Palestinians were killed as a result of Israeli action.

Thats unfortunate.

The UN secretary general? Oh, you mean that guy who admitted his anti-Israel bias before leaving office last year? Let me ask you please, if we attacked any civilian target after 2006, how come there was no war started because of it? Israel has not been involved in Lebanon since 2006, in the war that they started without provocation from our side.

@the_red_viper: I wasn't talking about Lebanon, where did I say Lebanon? That's why I asked about the whole conflict, not just 2006.

@redxiii18881990: This thread is kind of about Lebanon..? The major conflicts Israel had with Lebanon are in 2006 and in '82.

@the_red_viper: yes the thread is. But you went out your way to condemn one for choosing civilian targets (and rightfully so) when Israel have also attacked civilians in the Arab-Israel conflict. It didn't sit right to condemn one when the other is also guilty of it.

Edit: the condemning of civilian targets was right. Not the choosing of.

@redxiii18881990: You might want to skim through this thread before making any further allegations. This post in particular, but the whole thread can help you gain an idea on the truth. I highly recommend you read through it.

@the_red_viper: you seem to be trying too hard here to prove Israel is good here. You ignore what is said and try to play it off as an allegation, when that is not the case. And it's funny what you use as a 3rd party source for the killings of Palestinian people who they suspect of collaborating with Israel, is the same source I have for the strikes on the 7 UN buildings. Now you acknowledge that the don't actively target civilians, but targeting UN buildings which the locations have been given beforehand is actually targeting them. So saying I'll gain idea on the truth why you seem to completely disregarding the truth of what I've said is pretty funny.

• I initially thought it was becuase of the fact that its a film about female empowerment and the firm prompting of western ideals...Kinda like how China banned the Reeves Superman films in the 80s for the very same reasons.
• But Gal Gadot being Israeli makes much more sense when you consider the geopolitical nature of the region.

@the_red_viper: I read through from the post you highlighted, and again none of that disproves what I've said about the attack on the UN buildings nor tells me much I either didn't know or didn't care about, hell I only know about what I've said here as my friend told me about it at a point and showed me the article. I only made my point because after asking about the whole the whole conflict not just the 2006 war, I purposely asked about the conflict as a whole because I knew otherwise. The issue is you refuse to accept what's been said.

Now on that thread you are clearly trying to give your side as a citizen of Israel which is fine, it gets a lot of bad press which some will be deserved and some won't you are trying clear that up which is fine. Some of what you've posted will obviously be bias, but you'll also post correct information as well. The issue is im not condemning Israel as a whole, I'm not saying that they treat Muslims as second class either. I simply pointed out that they are responsible for attacks on civilian UN buildings. That's it.

I ignore nothing. You blame Israel for targeting civilians, I provide evidence proving that Israel does everything in its power to avoid civilian casualties. But when your enemy fires rockets at you from inside hospitals, schools and playgrounds, and they force the civilians to stay there and serve as human shields, sad mistakes are bound to happen even when you try your best and use everything in your power to avoid it, such as taking warning shots, aborting airstrikes, dropping warning leaflets, making phone-calls and text messages to civilians telling them to get the hell away, and much more that I'm probably not even aware of, and you can see examples for these things in the post I highlighted and in additional posts throughout the thread. By the same token I can blame the USA for using drones to target civilians in Afghanistan, Yemen, Iraq and Libya when the truth is that the civilian casualties are a result of terrorists hiding among the civilian population. We don't target UN buildings because they're UN buildings, we target UN buildings because they are being used as weapon labs, headquarters for terror operations, rocket launching sites and entrances to infantry tunnels that are used to infiltrate Israel and kill/kidnap soldiers and citizens alike. The Hezbollah (and Hamas in that case) are targeting civilian targets because they're terrorists and that's what terrorists do. I never said that Israel never targeted UN buildings, I'm saying that your allegations are misplaced and that you are apparently very misinformed.

And you need to make the distinction between the wars against Hezbollah in Lebanon and the wars against Hamas in Gaza. They are not the same "conflict", which is what you seemingly don't understand and created the confusion in the first place. It's like the USA's involvement in Iraq and in Libya... not the same thing.

What a joke, sounds like something that Saudi Arabia or North Korea would do not a goverment that want to look serious to the rest of the world.

@the_red_viper: if they were forced to stay along with the UN workers as some of those were killed in the incident then why was that not declared. Why was it not a case of they attacked the place but we weren't allowed to leave. It isn't mentioned in the UN investigation.

What is said is that 3 sites were used to store weapons. Those site were unoccupied by people. The ones attacked were not. It also states that a criminal investigation was being started in Israel over it by Israel. Since they attacked UN civilian shelters it would make it a war crime. They are designated civilian shelters and attacking those is a war crime. It's not a case of civilian being caught in crossfire, nor collateral damage. It's a civilian shelter therefore a war crime. (War crimes on both side however). My allegations are not misplaced or misinformed. They are what they are. Which is israel attacked UN civilian shelters. Which regardless of if they had warning or not it's a civilian target even if it's to kill a specific person the target is a civilian population and a war crime.

Yes the US is to blame for using drones on civilians. I'm not from the US so that doesn't concern me. But yes.

I made distinctions by asking about the conflict, which may be called something different in Israel, but it's called the Arab-Israel conflict hence my choice of the word conflict. That is why i tried to clarify between the war you mention to the other person and the conflict as a whole.

@the_red_viper: since there seems to have been a mix up in the understanding we should probably leave this or take it into the thread you created. We've kinda derailed this a bit.

@redxiii18881990:

The few points you seem to be missing:

1. UN reports are biased. It was admitted by the former UN secretary general, Ban Ki Moon, in one of the last speeches he gave before leaving his office.
2. Gaza is a hellhole controlled by murderous terrorists with no supervision. Believing them and what they "declare" is like believing ISIS.
3. You compare terrorists targeting civilians to Israel killing civilians. The comparison is wrong and misplaced. The very clear difference is that terrorists kill civilians because they want to kill civilians, which is what terrorists do. Whenever Israel kills a civilian, it's because said civilian is used as a human shield, forced and threatened to stay at the place that Israel would target.
4. Israel uses measures that you wouldn't believe in order to prevent civilian casualties, and that no other nation has ever used in times of war. You seem to be purposefully outright ignoring everything that you have seen Israel doing to minimize civilian casualties.
5. Civilian shelters stop being civilian shelters when you use them as bases of operations for terrorist activity. Do you really think that destroying a rocket launching site that targets civilians is a war crime only because it's located under a sign that says "UN"? If so, then there's something very wrong with your logic.

Seriously, tell me the truth: what would you do? What would you do if your people were being terrorized for years, fearing for their lives every waking moment, and the only way to ensure their safety was to engage the terrorists that try to murder them even when they hide behind women and children, in hospitals and schools and mosques and heavily populated neighborhoods? Would you just let your people suffer and die? Because those are the only 2 choices we have. Either fight, or give in and pray the rockets don't kill anyone. And when we have to target a place where there's a chance to endanger innocents, we do EVERYTHING we can in order to make sure that no civilian is hurt, even going as far as aborting airstrikes even though the rocket launching site that was supposed to be bombed might be the one that sends the next rocket that kills an innocent civilian. But we can't be 100% right all the time, and believe me that we regret every innocent life that we take, but we are not the ones to blame for it. We don't go off leveling hospitals and schools just for kicks, we only attack places that we are 100% sure pose a threat to us. And trust me, our intel is ALWAYS solid.

You saying "the conflict" is just using a very vague and very false term. "The Conflict" could refer to any of the countless wars that our neighbors forced upon us in the last 69 years.

Lol'd hard, thank you.

OT: It's not like they're particularly a enlightened culture anyway. The Lebanese have more important things to deal with that foreign films.

It is part of the Arab council, and its official language is Arabic.

@the_red_viper: 1. You claim the UN is biased, when the investigation was not carried out only by the Secretary General, two were carried out. One of which was carried out by a Dutch person who is ex military, who was also supported with other members some of which are also military. But the UN is bias, and you as an Israeli who would have served in the Israeli military is not. Makes sense.

2. Believing the UN.

3. Targeting civilians which this was is the same as anyone targeting civilians. Doesn't matter who they are or what they believe. It's abhorrent and a utter disgrace.

4. Then why did they attack civilians. No proof was given that they were terrorists. None.

5. None of the UN workers claimed that they are firing rockets from it. None of the civilians claimed either. Israel tried to defend saying that it was not them, rather their enemies weapons malfunctioning. This later was discovered to wrong. And seeing as they opened a criminal investigation to this in Israel then it shows they found some merit into what you are justifying. Now as the buildings are designated civilian buildings and were filled with civilians it's a war crime.

I grew up in the UK. We've been subject to terrorist attacks for a long time from the IRA targeting civilians to ISIS. I'm not a supporter of either the those, nor the way the UK government approached either.

If they do everything even aborting air strikes then why did this happen? They knew it was a civilian population, and that information was given freely by the UN so Israel avoided hitting them. They choose to do so anyway. Information always solid, if that was the case they wouldn't have opened an in house criminal investigation, because that shows doubt. Also the findings of the UN differ.

The conflict is the whole thing. From the 1940s until now. The whole thing.

@redxiii18881990@the_red_viper

Take this somewhere else, we aren't here to discuss wars and who's right and who's wrong

Viper i'll edit the OP so you don't feel offended.

@redxiii18881990: Since the OP asked us to stop you can either PM me or bump that thread I linked earlier. Your call.

That is true, it what i thought at first.. the movie takes place in WW1 and has nothing to do with the Arab-Israeli conflict.

And the fact that they've not banned other movies featuring Gal Gadot, such as Criminal, Fast 5 and Fast 6. I assume they banned it this time due to the fact that she is lead actress.

WW should have worn a burqa or something.

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