WODC/DCEU Tier list

Steppenwolf already beat both Wonder Woman and Aquaman at the same time and Aquaman above Zod lol

Aquaman would get shit stomped by Zod, Faora or Nam-Ek. He already got beaten by Steppenwolf.

@rem: Wonder Woman above Zod?

@rem: When did he beat Steppenwolf 1v1?

In the end when he takes him on? Steppenwolf was beaten to shit in that fight.

It doesn’t make sense for stepphenwolf to get back up without any noticeable injuries. He wasn’t hurt when superman came in. When Arthur bear him he was down and stayed down.

Steppenwolfalreadybeathimunderwater.

Debatable. Stepphenwolf through him against the wall, then left with a mother box. Arthur didn’t get the chance to fight back.

@jedixman: not a bad list. But why would you put ares above Wonder Woman when we’ve seen Diana stomp him without effort? Along with that that was 100 years ago and we’ve seen her improve throughout history. present day Diana should be laps above him imo.

Diana beat Ares because she was the Godkiller, not through her own inherent abilities. She was in a "godkiller" mode that she never used against any other opponent. It appears that those abilities only activated because she was facing a god; I doubt they would activate in any other scenario. It's a very specific mode for very specific battles and is not applicable in 99% of all combat scenarios.

I find the who God-killer thing confusing and PIS. She didnt use it against stepphenwol, and he is in fact an old god. in the fight all we saw was ares get outlclassed. Plan and simple. We have yet to see Diana use it again in the WODC.

It's like a character who is made of Kryptonite, and we say that character > Superman-level characters all the time.

theres a distinct difference Between the two. We know that superman gets hurt by kryptonite because that’s consistently the case. We also have an idea what kryptonite it. We get a very vague definition of Diana’s “god killer” mode and it hasn’t been used once since.

What is the rationale that Faora is anything less than way above Steppenwolf? Superman proved he was nothing to Kryptonians and Faora showed she had speed feats liquify steppenwolf in MoS?

What is the rationale that Faora is anything less than way above Steppenwolf? Superman proved he was nothing to Kryptonians and Faora showed she had speed feats liquify steppenwolf in MoS?

Easily, by feats. Everything else on the list okay?

list is way out of order

What feats? Zod is stronger, the better striker, more durable and faster in combat.

In not going to debate Zod vs Diana on this thread. But in short, she had multiple opportunities to kill superman in the JL fight and I don’t see why she can’t do the same to Zod

Alsooneotherthing, whyisBlackMantaaboveCyborg, SteppenwolfaboveFaora/ Nam-Ek?

Black Mants is above cyborg, just from what I’ve heard from the movie. His duribility is far better due to repeatedly tank punches from Aquaman, and surviving deep under water, he blitzed and bulrushes him on the rooftop on one of the trailers, and he has overalls better versitality. He also should be above his fodder and his fodder are top tier lvl fodder, based from what we’ve seen from the trailer and James Wan.

Stepphenwolf is above Faora and nam ek due to the fact that he beat Ares+Zeus and Diana+Aquaman (who would trash that team) also tanking repeated punches and laser vision from Superman while Faora was don’t in 1 good hit.

LOL how have you said Aquaman beat Steppenwolf that makes no sense.

Also Aquaman has done nothing as of yet to rank in that tier you have to wait for his movie.

Diana shouldn't be above Zod.

No she couldn't have killed Superman in the JL fight.

LOL how have you said Aquaman beat Steppenwolf that makes no sense.

He did fair and square. If you want the Gif of it I’d gladly give it to you.

Also Aquaman has done nothing as of yet to rank in that tier you have to wait for his movie.

I like how I clearly said that, and also said that I will rank him properly after the movie comes out. From what I’ve been hearing, Arthur under water is as powerful as superman, and I tend to ltake director statements as the most accurate form of getting information.

Diana shouldn't be above Zod.

Considering the fact that zod would get swatted away by doomsday like a King d playing with a toy, and Diana was the main MVP of the trinity fight, it’s definitely put her above zod.

No she couldn't have killed Superman in the JL fight.

instead of blitzing him with her shield, she could’ve easily blitzed him with her sword and chapped his head off. She didn’t use her sword the entire fight all due to the fact that she was holding back.

Incubus and the Amazon’s should both be bottom tier. And Arthur is way too high, Arthur IN water already got manhandled by Steppenwolf,

really? In justice league the Amazons were lifting 20 tons.

Aquaman is that high because of James Wan literally stating he’s krypyonian tier under water. I will put a question mark by his name.

both he and Ares should be above Arthur. Doomsday should be a tier above everyone on his own. Croc shouldn’t be mid tier he belongs in low tier somewhere below Incubus. And what has Black Manta’s fodder done or even displayed in the trailer to make them mid tier?

mini respect thread.

-casually bust trough walls

- Has enhanced speed (this is seen in the aqua man extended video)

- has a versitile arsena

-eventually tags mera hard enough to send her flying in the air (someone who casually survives blows from stepphenwolf and survived hundreds of meters deep into the ocean)

- Survives a kick from aquaman,

I can easily show you the video of Arthur getting his ass handed to him by Steppenwolf IN water. Him landing one hit on Steppenwolf after Superman beat his ass is irrelevant when Steppenwolf was handling him and WW at the same time. I don't know how you think Aquaman beat Steppenwolf but even if you did you should be able to realise by EVERYONE disagreeing that you're wrong.

Stepphenwolf showed no visible signs of damage when he was attached by superman. He got back up multiple times. When Arthur attacked hit with his trident he was down and stayed down. We even saw him draw blood. When Arthur got seriou, he beat stepphenwolf with not problem. Saying everyone disagrees with me (when it’s just you and maybe someone else) is halarius and not an argument.

No Zod wouldn't when Superman first fought Doomsday he was weakened by kryptonite and wasn't getting ridiculously manhandled so Zod would logically be stronger than a kryptonite weakened Superman. Zod's striking, strength and durability feats are all above hers the only feats that put her on his level are with her sword.

Is there any proof that superman was weakens during the BvS fight? That fight was hours from his fight with Batman. Either way, Superman clearly got strong in every movie. Zod would get three shorted by Doomsday. A weaker, inexperienced superman fought zod two years prior to and Superman’s fighting someone who is stronger than current superman. I don’t see why Diana doesn’t replicate everything she does in the DD fight except for the fact that Zods strikeing power, reaction speed, and duribility and inferior to Zods and that gives Diana an easy win.

Do you honestly think she could blitz someone who is nearly as fast as the Flash who perceives Wonder Woman as pretty much a statue. She couldn't even blitz Steppenwolf who is a statue to Superman. Superman was also obviously not trying to kill them there either given he didn't turn Batman to paste with his hit and he'd just randomly been brought back from the dead and is having to fight all these people you think he was at peak performance?

You’re misinterpreting what I’m saying, superman wasn’t paying attention. He got bullrushed by her shield but she easily couldve used her sword instead and that would’ve been game over for Superman. Second of all, she did blitz stepphenwolf (twice) in he tunnel fight. Rewatch the movie. You have nothing but assumption that Superman was not at his peak in his fight with the justice league. If youd watch the movie, superman was going to kill batman untill Lois came in. womder woman stated multiple times that she did not want to fight him and just restrain him. if wonder Woman was anything less than our of character she could’ve gone with a fatal blow o his head.

God tier: Doomsday, Superman.

Top tier: Zod, Steppenwolf, Wonder Woman.

High tier: Namek, Faora, Ares, Aquaman.

Mid tier: Flash, Cyborg.

Idk the rest.

Well, if you tell me which ones are out of order and I agree id happily change them. This list is kinda opinion based and no ones going to agree on the same thing every time.

I'd stick wondy and Arthur a tier below DD and Clark.

@rem:

In not going to debate Zod vs Diana on this thread. But in short, she had multiple opportunities to kill superman in the JL fight and I don’t see why she can’t do the same to Zod

She really didn't, Superman was clearly dominating the fight, he even made a statue out of her. Zod has superior Strength, Durability and Speed, she isn't tagging him so easily either.

BS. Diana bullrushed Superman with her shield and could’ve done the exact same thing wither her sword if she was actually trying. If Diana tags him she can potentially one-shot him. Zod would get 3 spotted by doomsday and Diana was able to fight him and hold his own.

Black Mants is above cyborg, just from what I’ve heard from the movie. His duribility is far better due to repeatedly tank punches from Aquaman, and surviving deep under water, he blitzed and bulrushes him on the rooftop on one of the trailers, and he has overalls better versitality. He also should be above his fodder and his fodder are top tier lvl fodder, based from what we’ve seen from the trailer and James Wan.

Right now we are unaware of the context behind Manta surviving underwater.

Cyborg has a shield which casually deflects Superman's heat vision, he has a Plasma Cannon which has phased Steppenwolf and pushed back Superman, he can also fly and has a an automatic defense System, Cyborg is MUCH MORE VERSATILE and is overall more suited to take out Manta than the latter.

Cyborg doesnt have the physicals to take on black manta. I don’t remember a single impresive combat feat from him. Black Manta, however is faster, can fly too, and his eye beams are a lot easier to direct than cyborgs plasma beams.

Stepphenwolf is above Faora and nam ek due to the fact that he beat Ares+Zeus and Diana+Aquaman (who would trash that team) also tanking repeated punches and laser vision from Superman while Faora was don’t in 1 good hit.

WonderWomanwasn'tmaximizingherabilitiesinthefight, Steppenwolf was getting outskilled by Aquaman. Faora and Nam Ek both have Superior Physicals to Steppenwolf, Faora alone was destroying Superman, who literally made Steppenwolf into a joke.

I’d agree ont that. It’s really hard to accurately rank stepphenwolf becuass of how many inconsistencies he had. But both flora and nan ek have inferior duribility to stepphenwolf. And Faora never destroyed super man. One good punch to the face and faora was finished.

Having Aquaman above Faora and NamEk at this time is a little crazy.

@rem:

BS. Diana bullrushed Superman with her shield and could’ve done the exact same thing wither her sword if she was actually trying. If Diana tags him she can potentially one-shot him. Zod would get 3 spotted by doomsday and Diana was able to fight him and hold his own.

She couldn't even hurt him though, and she didn't even bullrush him at any point, I just re-watched the whole scene. She did nothing to him, he literally can make a statue out of her if he so pleases.

she didn’t hurt him with the bullrush but couldbe so if she damn pleases due to her sword. Diana Not hurting super man is irrelevant. The fact that if she would’ve used her sword in that fight it would be game over. Also. We Don’t even know if he’s faster than her yet. Diana being frozen was falling speed. The only thing we’ve saw of super man being faster than her was when he blitzed her when she tried to do a bracelet clash And she couldn’t do anything about that.

Cyborg doesnt have the physicals to take on black manta. I don’t remember a single impresive combat feat from him. Black Manta, however is faster, can fly too, and his eye beams are a lot easier to direct than cyborgs plasma beams.

He has the weaponry to take him on though. And how is Manta faster? He also didn't get any noteworthy accuracy feats, so how is his beam easier to direct?

In a small tv spot he bullrushed Arthur and he couldn’t react. It was much faster than the deleted scene of cyborg blocking the car an dsaving the cop in justice league.

I’d agree ont that. It’s really hard to accurately rank stepphenwolf becuass of how many inconsistencies he had. But both flora and nan ek have inferior duribility to stepphenwolf. And Faora never destroyed super man. One good punch to the face and faora was finished.

Nam Ek threw a train, he's far stronger than Steppenwolf.

Not denying that but Nam ek has no way to hurt stepphenwolf. He’s currently weaker than a present JL super man and Stephen wolf wasn’t phased by his punches.

And what's this about Superman one shotting Faora? Faora literally blitzed Superman, and continued to out-skill him casually. Steppenwolf got clowned by Superman.

Faora was eventually beaten due to the fact that super man punched her in the face and broke her mask.