Will MCU Scarlet Witch be strong enough to solo DCEU/CW Justice League after WandaVision??

DCEU Superman will still speed blitz her, I guess. In raw power though, she already might be more powerful.

Can't speak about CW.

Oliver shoots the non CW arrow timer

She can pretty much do that now.

She gets blitzed by Barry, kryptonians, martian also they resisted way more powerful haxes than she ever could. Btw you got roasted in all aspects in vs CW Mar Novu fight. Like i have slapped your black hole garbage with no context ( even thou guides completely debunks your personal feelings ). Only marvel.com says bifrost void is some kind of black hole ( but Thanos said he died in process so had to be revived ) + no statements like how big/dense black hole, did Loki touch singularity. Also marvel.com credibility is so "high" as they claim Scepter is Tesseract. Her mind hax <<<<<< martian's.

I have no idea who you are, but you're wrong for multiple reasons.

1. She wins with TK and TP not hax.

Super since MMH has infinitely way greater tp and way more versatile one. Lool seriously u go with telekinesis ? Kryptonian flight is way above that. Barry was able multiple times counter Grodd mind hax which is leagues superior by feats and statements to Wanda's or Kara was able to counter mindhax of Psi who has already better tp feats and statements

2. Barry can't do much to her and has a ton of feats of being unable to blitz people...like Grodd

So ? We assume heroes are at their best. Or we use Wanda who can be beaten/suprised by human Clint Barton.

and sometimes random criminals who get away in a literal car.

Typical of WorldWarrior pretends MCU characters have no jobbers as they are literal Holly Dollies. I am used to such trolls. Also Barry blitzed several times weather master for instance or enlongated man.

3. Wanda can fly so Barry's out of it.

Yes Barry can fly with arms like rescuing Patty Spivot from building even he did way faster in air than Wanda

It is not his coommon power since he is more ground fighter but don't pretend Wanda is aerial fighter like Iron Man, DR Strange with clothes, Vision or War Machine. She can't simultaneously fly and fight.

4. Kryptonians don't blitz much.

I know and Wanda's tp is basically trash since she can only mind hax mini part of street and long prep time unlike Martian who can truly fight on mental comabts and can quickly freeze and painfully kill mentally. Also let not forget Wanda is glass canon unlike Firestorm, kryptonians, martians.

not beating cw lucifer if he says no to being killed (literally the entire show premise is letting stuff happen) and prob cw flash

@userthatisme: I have read review with spoilers and basically all disgusting MCU wankers will get dissapointed as Wanda is not really that powerful ( maybe she is but we have to watch until end ). Flash, Kal, Kara, J'onn, JaxStein/RonnieStein handily solo claps her by feats and consistent powerscaling supported by statements from show and the guide.

ah ok. thank you very much

Idk are u ironic for mini spoilers or different ( it's irrelevant to me since i have read review with zero context ), but i don't expect miracles.

Notice the fact they virginised all their heroes turning them into typical Disney Princesses.

Odin was soyboy who always needed rescue despite strong statements which lack context.

Hela is simple sword thrower with extended longevity, durability, healing factor ( no cosmic lvl sorcerress )

All gems have been nerfed badly including nigh featless soul gem and fodder mind gem.

This is what i expected. Same as all MCU fanboys were claiming Doctor Strange is gonna be casual reality warper after those trailers while movie debunks everything claiming only Dormammu connceted minions can do that stuff in mirror dimension etc.

@mama7: Not seeing a counter to Thanos level TK.

@mama7: Loki never died and got revived. That's complete nonsense.

While Thanos said "no more ressurection" also this was all off screen and that black hole had unknown size. As i said marvel.com isn't at all credible.

As for Thanos, he scales to Thor and Hulk as well as Thor's weapons. Thor himself has survived weapons that harmed ships that tanked blackholes.

I debunked this devil anus + this was all off screen. This was only said to be neutron star inside einstein rosen bridge as Banner and movie guide says. Movies and guides statements >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your personal wanked interpretations out of context. Loki barely was obliterated by black hole grenade and Kurse scaling above Thor was oneshoted by BH grenade.

SW destroyed Thanos' weapon and his armor, and was tearing him apart. That Kara and MMH feat isn't good enough to survive her TK.

Wanna go that retard so again no context how Loki survived and devil anus is not black hole as Banner and guide says. Bifrost Void for Loki lacks on screen descriptions and Loki likely died in that.

Also survivng gravity of unknown size black hole <<<<<<<<<survivng gravity of black hole with known size<<<< survivng interior of it off-screen<<<<<<<<<survivng interior of it on screen<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< destroying it. It was all offscreen with Loki.

Grandmaster ship could also fly around it avoiding contact as it was all off screen with no descripton.

Also Refuugee ship survived off screen. It could be ripped apart in process with resisting main remannt to fly.

Keep trying and keep failing. Also "BHs" are only your counter + i wanna remind you if u wanna go again with devl anus as black hole then it's energy shields were protecting while fodder asgardian zombies could oneshot this orgy ship of Grandmaster.

@mama7: None of it was off-screen. On screen we saw the ship survive a black hole

Which one then ? Devil's anus is said only to be collapsing neutron star in largest wormhole on Sakaar and ship could fly around it avoiding contact as it was off screen and without details.

Sorry man/madam but this is unexplained and filled with plotholes.

and we saw Loki get sucked up into the Void.

Ok and ? What has happened then to him ?

Thor also has the feat of saving Loki from the blackhole grenade

From it's gravity while this black hole hadn't even defined size. Even microblack holes with nanometers or picometers in radius have strong graity to pull but not obliterative.

and of tanking attacks from an infinity stone that's said to turn the universe dark via the convergence.

Have u ever listened to Dr Selvig statements ? Malekith will use all out power during full convergence and convergence itself will raise power exponentially. It's not it's own power + this process could take very slow. Jane's vision means nothing as it is just plan of Malekith with unknown timing

Not to mention that Loki's armor survived the void as well,

Off screen and no evidence. Keep trying and keep failing also marvel.com has proven their shit credibility as they can't see difference between tesseract and scepter.

putting Asgardian metal at 'survive blackhole level'

How big black hole just to know density and with singularity touching or not ?

and thus their weapons slightly above it (Hela and Loki pierced Thor) and SW's TK is above that level.

Show me statement Thanos sword is made of it ( u won't show it since i roasted you multiple times)

Basically there's like 5 different ways to scale to blackhole level for SW's TK. It clears here.

I debunked every evidence of it and you constantly fails to prove it or show scanings. Bigger black hole is way less dense + black holes which are also portals are definitely supressed black holes without singularity via exotic matter's existence. Black Hole which Kara tanked or Firestorm has destroyed has actual singularity by statements of credible nerd characters.

@mama7: It's on screen stated that it takes 6 months to get to Asgard if you don't go through the blackhole. So wrong there.

Can you comprehend statement: "Collapsing Neutron Star INSIDE Einstein-Rosen Bridge" ? It seems u don't and ER Bridges are not black holes at all or maybe are but supressed as they are stable. Also you failed to show me statement they went through interior of that star. Show me statement from guide or we don't use that then. And yes energy shields were covering that ship during devil anus while without shields it got stomped by fodder nigh featless asgardian zombies which were oneshoted by texasian guns basically.

Loki on screen goes into the Void and is alive in the literal credit scenes.

Credit scene can refer to events even happening months later. Tie-in comic of Avengers prelude implies it has happened all year later after Thor events even it was confirmed. Comic statement >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> framecut scene teasing the sequel.

As is his armor. We KNOW he survives.

Still no context. Also Heimdall and Friga said he died as Heimdall is guy with super senses. This would make no sense Loki for hiding from them as Frigga was saying "THor is mourning brother's death". Thanos still said "no more resurection".

The Convergence lasted like a few hours. Expanding to universal in a few hours is...universal.

Still Malekith didn't use all out power toward him and Aether is said to be transforming matter into dark matter. Entire FLash connect universe is all about dark matter and all metas.

Thanos' sword not only chips Vibranium and matches/blocks Stormbreaker,

And what ?

but it's literally said to be Uru by directors. So it's blackhole level by both feats and scaling.

Do not strike me with that garbage again. You countered nothing and still marvel.com has no credibility as all websites which get constant change. Also how big black hole then and yeah we have no evidence to what extent. Btw black holes is still only your counter.

SW's TK still stomps.

Ok so prove me she can bust black holes like 5 meter radius one. Resisting black hole inside is planet lvl durability ( of that density ), but obliterating it is Large Star lvl power. When dog bites me i will survive definitely, but with bad wound.

@mama7: A collapsing neutron star is no different than a blackhole, still immense gravity, density, etc.

Collapsing neutron star is not collapsed neutron star. This is not black hole. Guide says it is:

Collapsing neutron star it is star shrinking ( in unknown extent ) what makes it no BH. Lightest possible Neutron star is with mass 10 % of the sun.

Even if that was still no evidence did they went through it. They could just fly around it as farthest as possible to avoid contact with centre as this was autopilot and Thor, Valkirie and Banner fainted. This was off screen that penetration, ship was literally shaking itself like turbulences ( with energy shields ). It was travelling during scene of Hela threatening to asgardian people to execute them all.

And yeah, fodder zombie asgardians have asgardian metal...which scales to blackhole+ this has already been discussed.

Still try harder. Still they got oneshoted by texasian bullets. Yeah already has been discussed and i debunked this. Or prove me that texasian gun was filled with super bullets made of asgardian metal

Loki...literally hides from Heimdall in that same movie and in the tie-in is hiding from Frigga and Heimdall. So wrong on that again.

No he doesn't find since Friga discovered him on her own. And still Loki could have died or obliterated into thousands of pieces then Thanos could set him back and make alive with tech maybe.

Not sure what you're talking about with destroying a black hole being star level power.

E=mc^2, Hawking radiation theory. To destroy black hole u need just make it evaporate turning into pure energy.

1. Thor's above star level power.

It was small fraction of that neutron star and Thor still got roasted to crisp in process

Thanos is > him and SW >Thanos with her TK.

Cute

2. There's 0 way to prove that destroying a blackhole is even possible,

And there is 0 way to prove that metahuman exist, aliens exist, 6 shiny jewel which together can destroy 50% of living beings in universe, 0 way to prove magic can even exist etc.

and definitely that it's star level.

E=mc^2

SW still stomps with TK.

U countered nothing and that black hole shattering oneshots that feat.

Even u wanna go omegamaximum wank then go on. Kara survived Chandrasekhar lvl nova of Overgirl explosion ( Curtis said that twice and Cisco said supernova. Even tv guide said supernova ) at her weakest

@mama7: Nope. Heimdall literally says the only way to get to Asgard is to fly through the collapsing neutron star. So it's fact that they went through the black hole.

Prove it it is black hole or not. Also Heimdall said nothing, but that was Valkirie. Do u watch movies or just random cutscenes ? Since you don't even remember the story of the movie.

The texas guns...have you seen guns before? They can't fire that well without reloading. And bullets cannot chip metal/rock like they did to Hela's swords. Those are clearly super charged bullets.

Any evidence or statements he enhanced them ? It literally wrecked Hela's weaponry or asgardian metals.

Frigga tried to find Loki but got blocked. It's specifically mentioned he's blocking her.

Where did she say that ?

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Marvel-s-Thor-The-Dark-World-Prelude/Issue-1?id=109795#11

She just located him and Loki didn't want to talk with her. He didn't repel her but she just stopped Astral projecting

The 'he might be in a million pieces' thing is pure speculation.

Just as pure assumptions of "tanking". Odin said he would have been scattered across universe but somehow is alive/survived but unknown details. Thanos likely ressurected him with tech. Both Odin and Loki consistently are soyboys in MCU, but Odin and Frigga raised Loki so technically they should know limits of Loki. Nothing either guide or tie-in comic implies what has happened to him, how did he survive this spacewarp. ( SPACEWARP IS NOT BLACK HOLE AS YOU REJECT MARVEL.COM STATEMENTS )

All we know is he survived it by the literal end of the movie.

Somehow to uknown extent. And still black hole size uknown ( while credibility of that marvel.com is pathethic ) and time of residing in it. He could even reside attoseconds inside.

Nothing states or shows he didn't survive it on his own.

And nothing states how did he survive or he no sold everything + Odin said he should have died.

e=mc^2 doesn't work.

So as every meta power. E=mc^2 and black hole works as Stephen Hawking said it is only way to destroy black holes.

Also i can say that Kara could harm Malefic with laser and Brainiac 5 said ( emphasizing this is not exaggerated irony ) that feat of Malefaak destroying Kara's kryptonian nanomaterial cape ( perforating with teeth ) is more terryfying than antimatter fueled bomb destroying all life across 3 solar systems. Antimatter mechanism of annihilation works like nukes so basically energy of 10^50 Joules of bomb to do that at least.

Science says you can't destroy blackholes so you can't use real life science for that feat.

Black holes can be destroyed theorethically like giving antimatter black hole into that positive matter black hole or just wait when BH will evaporate naturally via Hawking Radiation.

Not sure why you keep mentioning marvel.com. You're the only one using it.

Because only this has unique ( only one existing ) statement of that being black hole. Marvel official guide, movies, shows nothing says of that being black hole.

SW's TK is enough to take out everyone in this topic.

Nope, not even close. Because u can't counter anything and your shit ABCD logic doesn't work like that.

Or we assume that Rocket is more powerful than full IG THanos since Rocket can make Thor butthurt with paw slap > THor with axe >axe>>>>>>> 6 infinity gems beam by using context lacking scaling.

@mama7: I was wrong about the exact thing, but Heimdall specifically does say some things about going through the wormholes.

https://youtu.be/CftVxeNRoUA?t=70

SOrry my bad, but he said "big one' and what ? He just says that wormhole aka Devil Anus is bigger in size than just regular

The fact that bullets can hurt/destroy metal means they're enhanced. Bullets don't do that.

Ok any statements he used enhanced ? So he asked hela to create bullets for him or what ? Any statements on that

What you posted about Frigga and Loki...is what I said. He blocked her. In the Thor movie he blocked Heimdall multiple times.

Outside asking how has he done it it proves nothing Loki was "blocking" her as he refused to talk with her. On becoming "invisible" for her.

The blackhole was large/powerful enough to suck up stars on screen so...above star level.

Do you know how event horizon works ? It bends space-time around you. Same with wormholes in Einstein general relativity. It just makes it look different while it isn't. Or prove me that that "black hole" just made magically all those stars returning into own previous positions. Or statements showing that this "BH" was magical. Supermassive black holes like in our galaxy is super heavy as it's gravity can affect entire galaxy spinning it's interior is fodderous basically as density is equal to water's density. It bends space-time and makes you travelling at speed of light at surface but it isn't harmful. Smaller black hole then gravity is smaller but way denser and surface way more destructive.

Definition of black hole is Speed of light is your escape veloity at surface but ftl is after entering it ( from interior escape )

So thanks for the correction, SW's TK is above star level and black hole level.

THis is not how it works. Lool and even thou if we must go that retard with your garbage logic still i clapped you with that solar system thing.

So by your logic our sun is galaxy lvl by feats as it's light makes all stars from night skies dissapear from existence. Great, nice oscarworthy logic.

Still Firestorm and Kara wrecked that black hole making it 100 quintilion times more impressive that Wanda's wanked scaling.

@mama7:

By feats, those bullets cannot be normal. Unless MCU Texas is a Wakanda-like society and even then...the bullets wouldn't be normal. Bullets cannot chip away at giant metal constructs like that. No statement is needed.

Those featless zombies only were attacking non energy shield ( not glowing ) ship destroying it. Same was with that Sakaarian refugge ship.

The void's a blackhole by feats,

Like what ? Space bending ? This can also be normal wormhole

statements,

You literally autorejected on your own marvel.com statement ( not credible site ) so nothing is stated to be black hole. C'moon try to stretch that shit because it has no sense.

and shown on screen.

non clear look means nothing. Triple pride and triple failure

Some of those stars didn't come back.

All of them came back, this is how space bending works

So it's multi-star level and

Not this is not how it works. Near surface all photons gets crazy as literally black hole is thing where light cannot escape .

thus far above solar system level.

Also that bomb was said to be wipe life across 3 solar systems. So still way above Wanda ( using context lacking scaling of yours ).

J'onn= Kara = Malefic >> Supergirl's cape >>>>> bomb able to destroy 3 solar systems.

Let not forget Kara has taken Rory Mick's planck temperature heatgun what should make her already about galaxy lvl in durability logically ( i know Rory controls stream of his own flamethrower but specially lowering to your retarded logic )

Quadrple try and quadrple failure

This puts Wanda's TK waaaay above anyone in CW or DCEU Justice League.

No it doesn't. ALso wanna already go max retard so Kara scales above Lexosuits, which can destroy Sun Eater and same sun eater can destroy sun which visually out of context can make all stars dissapear out of existence by visuals ( by your logic ). So as Firestorm.

Oh wait i forgot about the fact that Firestorm thermal core/matrix can in unstable way create universe busting fissions.

Universe in MCU is finite by Thanos statements while universes in CW are infinite in size expanding to higher infinite structure by consistent statements. So Firestorm >>>>>>>>>>>> wanked Wanda and Thor.

Barry and Kara could create visually and statementwise centrifugal force able to freeze universe and that reality rewriting power across history.

@mama7: You provided nothing new.

No, i just used your shitty logic against you + without using that shitty logic i still can scale them that high

The Void's still a blackhole

Nope it isn't. You already admitted you don't care about this not credible site marvel.com. Guide only calls it spacewarp and tie-in comic said Loki just fell into Yggdrasil. So no black holeness.

Double pride, double fail.

by feats that swallowed entire stars

In reality only bend time-space buy by mo logic and context "swallowed entire galaxy visually". _ other feats i stated scales that high likely consistently

and scaling off of that, Wanda is far above the CW and DCEU Justice League with her TK.

Oh so if you still are scaling that without context you admit you surrender.