Will feats from the Snyder cut crossover with the main DCEU?
No, Snyder himself said it’s not cannon.. and that we should look at it as a elseworlds story.
Snyder verse must be specified else the thread will only relate to DCEU cannon (ie Justice League theatrical release).
This is not only how we’ve always treated else world stories, and it’s not only because the theatrical cut always takes precedent.. it’s so we can compare the Cannon versions to the Snyder versions.
Snyder verse characters vs Cannon DCEU characters will make for some fun threads I’m sure.
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Hyped for the Snydercut but it’s not cannon, it’s elseworlds per Snyder himself.
Wanna know something else cool???
https://www.cbr.com/bvs-wonder-woman-elseworld-beheading/
There already is a elseworlds Diana that carys heads.. per Snyder.. so DCEU elseworlds already has some lore.
Unless the powerlevels are too different, I don't see why not since it's essentially the same characters making different decisions.
Unless the powerlevels are too different, I don't see why not since it's essentially the same characters making different decisions.
Snyder already said its not cannon.
If power levels werent different you wouldn't need the crossover feat.
Its gonna be fun to see which version is stronger.
Weve never used else world feats in cannon debates unless specified.
Black suit superman resurrected a different way...Wolf looks completely different.. even the paras are different..
Naw I dont think they cross feats.
Unless the powerlevels are too different, I don't see why not since it's essentially the same characters making different decisions.
Snyder already said its not cannon.
still shows intent for DCEU power levels.
If power levels werent different you wouldn't need the crossover feat.
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Its gonna be fun to see which version is stronger.
Probably Snyder, compare his Wonder Woman and Jenkin's
Weve never used else world feats in cannon debates unless specified.
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Black suit superman resurrected a different way...Wolf looks completely different.. even the paras are different..
Naw I dont think they cross feats.
Unless the powerlevels are too different, I don't see why not since it's essentially the same characters making different decisions.
still shows intent for DCEU power levels.
This remains to be seen. 80%~ of the Whedon Cut was from Snyder and even then, using the Snyder Cut over the Whedon Cut implies that canonicity or that Snyder's intent to make it a completely different universe shouldn't be respected. Elseworlds aren't What Ifs. They're set in different continuities altogether. Always have been.
@death4bunnies: Snyder also said that it was up to the fans to decide that. Snyder also tends to contradict himself often.
@death4bunnies: Snyder also said that it was up to the fans to decide that. Snyder also tends to contradict himself often.
I think theatrical cut would take precedence anyway.
Which is cannon is less of a concern to me as if they stay separate on the battle boards I guess.
Mostly because I want to fight them against eachother.
But also because it seem wrong to pick and choose the best feat as it suits your needs, and just from the trailers there are a lot of contradictory feats.
I just think Cannon/Snyder/Composite should be specified..and because all the old thread are kinda about the theatrical cut they should be left with theatrical cut feats.
That way we can have new threads...Like Snyderverse Superman vs MCU Thor..instead of starting back on the old threads.
Or Snyderverse Superman vs Cannon DCEU Superman....etc.
Just seems better as the 2 movies seem pretty divergent with the main villain getting a complete overhaul and even the fodder Paras are different.
@death4bunnies: Your words "composite", are the magic words i guarantee people here are gonna use. Your right about that. For me the snyderverse begin with MOS and ends with the Snyder Cut.
@death4bunnies: he mentioned multiverse as well. So maybe in one universe they fight steppenwolf without darkseid and in another they deal with both Steppenwolf and potentially darkseid.
@death4bunnies: Maybe this could be like alternate timeline or alternate Earth. Like Flashpoint, pre Flashpoint, post Flashpoint timeline
@takenstew22: only Wanda does
Perhaps.
Anyone saying non canon are just scared, its obvious warner are distancing themselves from the theatrical cut. come one year for now the joss whedon version will be the elseworlds one
I mean it already does.. patty Jenkins said most of the directors were still going more with snyder stuff after the theatrical version of JL released, and James wan has said something similar as well. In that case, the theatrical JL would be the outlier.
The fact that the SC is representative of a fidelity of intent that carries from start to finish and is the product of a clear underlying vision is more important than a mega corporation slapping a label on something. The way so many people seem to view canon and scaling in the context of battles is just broken.
Using Whedon League feats like there exists any hold over of continuity in regards to power-levels (or really, anything) in any way that really matters is just CV trying to impress battle forum logic onto what is essentially chaos at that point.
@death4bunnies: Maybe this could be like alternate timeline or alternate Earth. Like Flashpoint, pre Flashpoint, post Flashpoint timeline
Ye thats kinda how I see it......either way I think cannon/snyder/composite should be specified in the thread.
No, the thread would have to be titled composite or specifically stating it's snyder otherwise any thread titled dceu will go by the theatrical release
Well duh, those feats will be canon to Snyder' DCEU and non-canon to post-Snyder's WoDC, i.e. current WB/DC movie line up.
https://cosmicbook.news/zack-snyder-reponds-patty-jenkins-weak-wonder-woman
a fan asks synder if his movie will contradict WW80whatever
Zack responded: "It will not be used as it contradicts the brilliant movie Patty made and I supported and did the story for."
https://screenrant.com/aquaman-movie-zack-snyder-producer-credit/
"Zack Snyder earned his Aquaman executive producer title by helping to shape the Arthur Curry character."
"It appears that Snyder helped James Wan steer the Arthur Curry character away from what Whedon did with him."
"James Wan was showing Zack Snyder, against the studio's wishes, cuts of the movie and early test screenings and storyboards to make sure that they're on the same page with what he originally wanted and Snyder gave his blessing of approval, bringing it back to what he wanted all along."
The dceuverse is already the snyderverse. The only movie that isn't is Whedon's Justice League. Wan and Jenkins already stated that their version are Zack's versions of the characters. He's also a producer on the movies and came up with the stories for wonder woman 1 and 2 and aquaman. This is a non argument and only serves the purpose of basically asking will people accept feats or not. The only movie in question is will Snyder's Justice League be in continuity with the rest of the films, as WB wants to ignore Whedon's Justice League all together. That's what Zack meant calling his version an elseworld. He's just ]trying to hype for a sequel that WB already told him wasn't going to happen. But now that covid hit and whedon got me too'd depending on how big snyders cut is his movie makes there's no reason why they wouldn't move forward promoting his vision for JL especially when they're the other films are massive successes and the directors of their other dc movies support his vision anyway.
Yeah, and everybody's known that for a while. The only people sticking to calling it non canon are the ones that know their favorite characters are gonna get dragged on the battles forum in the next couple weeks.
Yeah, and everybody's known that for a while. The only people sticking to calling it non canon are the ones that know their favorite characters are gonna get dragged on the battles forum in the next couple weeks.
Cannon or not the Snyderverse characters should get new threads...Snyder Superman can drag MCU Thor on one of those new threads if he gets the feats....Or we can specify composites....but I dont think old polls should be shifted based on the Snydercut.
I have the same opinion on Marvels What If show coming out, they should get there own threads where its specified.
@death4bunnies: Snyderverse would truly have to be it's own thing though for that, which it's not. Zack even added on to the other directors by confirming that Birds of Prey Gotham and his are one and the same. What-If is an entirely different thing considering it's an actual parallel universe but I'll leave that to the show creators to specify
Yeah, and everybody's known that for a while. The only people sticking to calling it non canon are the ones that know their favorite characters are gonna get dragged on the battles forum in the next couple weeks.
this and only this.
threads like this serve one purpose for a small group of users to try lowball and decide on their own headcanon same as everything else on the battles. Theyll have to find something new to do now that wanda vision is ending.
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