Why MCU Thor is bullet proof

@supermanforever:

When did i say asgardians were not bullet proof.

You said Thor didn't have any decent piercing durability feats. You're claiming that Thor withstanding the Bifrost beam isn't impressive enough to be considered as evidence that Thor is bullet proof.

Therefore, I ask you again: could a non-bullet proof being (e.g. a regular human) survive exposure to the Bifrost beam?

Also prove the durability of that dragon. What makes you think its something decent?

It was powerful enough that Thor didn't want to fight it. That puts it above human-level durability by a pretty wide margin.

@supermanforever: We quantify it by the speed it is traveling at and by the feat the Bifrost has

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@supermanforever:

Literaly nothing suggests from that thing, that tanking that light is something special.

The Bifrost beam isn't just light. It's made up of physical crystals that are moving at FTL speed.

From the VFX team:

That thinking lead to the idea of sticking a head into the edge of the Bifrost. When that happens, the head and bodies are hit with a barrage of Bifrost crystal shapes.“It’s almost like their bodies become like an umbrella in a huge shower of crystal shards,” adds Morrison. “It starts feeling violent, and I kind of knew that the sound guys at Skywalker would be able to run with something like that and give us a really quite immersive experience.”

“We tried shafts of light but it did not feel dangerous or exciting enough,” adds Burnheim, in terms of what Rising Sun Pictures devised for the shards. “We also tried a splash as if someone fell from a boat and hit the water at high speed but when simulating at the correct speed became messy and confused the story.We finally settled on a shattering effect which tied into some of the refractive nature that we had built into our initial look of the Bifrost. We played with speed, size of the shards and the lighting influences our characters had on their surroundings to give us the final look.”

Tanking FTL crystal shards>>>>>>>>>>>>>bullets by a pretty wide margin.

Thor and Hela were traveling through space along with the Bifrost, meaning that the shards weren't FTL relative to them. The dragon wasn't moving at FTL speeds, so of course the Bifrost is gonna hit it a lot harder.

Simple, really . . .

Pretty dumb for him not to be bulletproof at this point, so wonder woman avoids bullets and that means she isnt bulletproof?

This shouldn't be a debate...

It's sad multiple users would probably be convinced by that logic. xD

Isn't she?

Honestly why even make this thread, anyone who uses logic knows he is and everyone else thinks he can be beat by a regular human with a gun so...

For the same reason someone would make a respect thread. It's easier to direct someone to an explanation than to explain yourself

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If people think he isn't at this point then there is literally no point trying to argue with them

Even in Infinity War on the space rings he was hit in the face by loads of metal shards by the rings and didn't get a scratch.

@thorthunder98: I know, I posted that feat in this thread. Point is, some people are never going to listen to reason, but some will

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To earth weapons? Yeah. The weapons that have hurt him hav ebeen alien and we have no way to calc their material/energy advantages. We only know that they are significant.

Asgardian metals are said to be harder and more dense than earth metals by Fitz in AoS. People can debate how much harder or denser, and the might since Fitz could work on those metals-however Fitz and shield also have tools that can cut Vibranium, so take it for what you will.

We also have the Spider-Man Homecoming scene where the Vulture and crew are salvaging Chitauri materials, and they can't grind through it with earth tools because it's too hard.

Thor getting pierced by Asgardian knives being wielded by a superhumanly tiered Frost giant with Asgardian energy, i.e. Loki, is not indicative that bullets as we know them can hurt him. Same can be said for other weapons.

If you really wanted to get into it, whether or not your skin (or anything) is pierced is determined by how much psi it can take. The bifrost, a ship exploding around him, and a star all produce far more psi than any bullet we have.

I've seen someone argue that Thor dodging the Necroblades isn't impressive because they didn't look fast in comparison to Thor running, which is human speed max

@kevd4wg: Thor is peak human in running speed tho

If someone throws a tennis ball at me idk I'll probably try to dodge it. Guess that means tennis balls can kill me.

How dare you use logic and reasoning on CV.

@twotonezack: Loki and sif had no problem tanking bullets point blank, they just don't cut to it in a way that makes them look overpowered, something dceu fails to do

So thor is easily bulletproof, amour or not, case closed

@lord_titan_: Not sure why I was tagged, but yes I agree.

is this even a question?

People have always hated thor, its been a thing since the start of cv

Yeah, Thor is obviously bulletproof, at least to earth bullets. Does he have an extremely distinguishable feat of standing there and getting shot in the face with high caliber bullets? No, but his feats toward piercing durability speak for themselves

I don't think anyone is saying he isn't bulletproof, the problem is to what extent is he bulletproof? Again bullets come in many shapes and sizes, being resistant to 9mm does not make you resistant to 25mm

Maybe it isn't very comforting to be hit with high calliber bullets. In the submarine scene, for example, Aquaman was shown bullet proof, yet he tried his best to aviod and block bullets when he could.

But if Thor was bulletproof, Stormbreaker couldn't pierce him, as we all know Bullet > Stormbreaker in piercing.

@apex_pretador: see by logic, Arthur should be invulnerable to bullets because of the amount of pressure every single inch of his body has been exposed to under water but because of that bulletproof feat, we can only claim he's resistant to whatever ever bullet he was hit with that didn't hurt him

@drpepperman: this is like one of the laziest strawman I've ever seen. You understand why steppenwolf's axe can't cut hulk? Use that logic.

No one is claiming all bullets> stormbreaker

@deactivated-5d731ee5de2e9: Loki is bulletproof, so why isn't thor? Unless you're implying loki has a fraction of the durability thor does

@supermanforever: Loki is bulletproof, so why isn't thor? Unless you're implying loki has a fraction of the durability that thor has. Btw loki got his neck snapped by thanos like tissue paper btw.

Thor obviously is bulletproof, can't see a convincing argument he isn't.

If Thor somehow managed to dodge all those bullets in AoU, that would make him quite the bullet timer. Those are like Mach2.5~ IIRC.

Same bullets tagged Quicksilver. Thor perceived Quicksilver and moved when he was statuing Cap. Therefore with the above feat, Thor should > QS.

Depends how you define bulletproof. Hand guns clearly don’t work

He should be but he was also dodging bullets and had to be protected from arrows. Probably the writers having no idea about the character.

@wot_m8: It was an arrow shot from a gun by someone from Sakkar.

Probably not equal to a real arrow.

@joker567892: Not really the point. It is still an arrow, if he has enough piercing to tank bullets, the arrow should not be able to pierce his skin unless we are assuming that the arrows are stronger and sharper than bullets... for which there is no evidence.

@wot_m8: The evidence is the fact that it is an arrow shot from a gun, that is made by an extremely advanced Alien civilisation(That and it pierced Sif's shield, which is definitely Bullet proof based off of her armor tanking a shotgun round).

Independently, said advanced civilizations have large gatling guns with high calibre fire, of which the biggest analogue in real life is 30x173mm bullets from the GAU 8 Avenger cannon. So even Hela gets a feat.

@olubummo: Hmm, but Cap had something to hide behind and Thor didn't. In any case, Thor's luck should make him avoid Mach 2.5 projectiles like a champ, or chances are the bullets did eventually hit him. It's not like Ultron failed in hitting Hulk.

Regardless, a Kryptonian punch is less powerful than a 30x173mm bullet at any of the contact surface area, while a punch from Thanos is more powerful than a 25x137mm bullet at all points of its surface area. Even Hela herself took fire from the Gatling guns the VFX team put on the Asgardian skiff boats. Considering the sheer size of those cannons comparative to the GAU 8 Avenger, the one with the 30mms, it's a high calibre feat. The Asgardian blades from the fodder Einherjar were cutting her cloak, and she was unharmed by the blunt force of the rounds. Therefore, Asgardian blades cut way easier than high-calibre rounds and Loki's pocket knife isn't an anti-feat for Thor, MCU or 616.

Or you have no idea how arrows work

@webinyoureye11: Please enlighten me.

Err, my point is that Thor had nowhere to hide.

I think I can assume, because if the bullets clearly hit Thor, there would have been nothing in the air from the bullets hitting the ground. I can already see the lowball arguments. Hulk is a large opponent, and Thor is falling from something.

I'm highballing to counter lowballing. If Thor managed to use "luck" to dodge all those bullets, since he had nothing in front of him to block the bullets, it means, with luck, that he can do it again. It's clear that other characters don't have the "luck" to dodge from similar Gatling cannons, just look in Man of Steel.

Also, the bullets werent anywhere near Cap when he hid behind the thing, and in any case the SSS gave Cap good reaction speed as well. Not as good as Thor, since Thor somehow dodging all those bullets make him above Cap.

If I can't assume the bullets did hit Thor, you can't assume it was just luck that he didn't get hit.

@rajjarsalt:

If Thor managed to use "luck" to dodge all those bullets, since he had nothing in front of him to block the bullets, it means, with luck, that he can do it again.

Black Widow had nothing in front of her and yet she managed to avoid them:

Guess Natasha is bullet-proof and/or hypersonic too right?

There is precious little evidence to suggest that Thor got hit by the bullets. Most likely they just hit the area around him, like with Widow.