@rem: No, I’m saying that anyone who tanks city level stuff should be assumed to be bullet proof unless they have a particular weakness, but that’s besides the fact that Thor has bullet proof feats as I’ve shown
@jayc1324: A weak human attempting to stab an asgardian with some random knife is weak example to try and back your claim up...
how?
the knife bent on his skin, this means that no matter how hard someone stabs him with it the knife will break before his skin will. it's pretty simple.
A random stupid blade probably the equivalent of a stainless steel kitchen knife isn't comparable fo 70mm jet fire which Thor ducked from.
bruh that dude trying to stab him is an Agent of SHIELD, they wouldn't be using crappy knives.
But I agree, that it is not the same as the fire Thor avoided. And my response to that is above. I'll copy and paste it here:
This is another point I see brought up, and it is important to keep in mind that at this point Thor does not know what bullets really are. Before Thor 1 he hadn't been to earth in hundreds of years, way before guns were a thing. And he never encounters guns in Thor 1. So this is really his first experience with them and he is just taking a precaution.
@mainjp: A standard number 2 pencil and this papermate mechanical aren't the same thing because they are made up of a different set of materials and one is more sophisticated, okay, yet they still write and do all the same things. Lasers and bullets are both fired from guns, to serve the purpose of what guns were created to do.
@mr_shazam0920: Lies. And yep because Thor can be harmed by less. Has no bulletproof feats. Plus had aboslutely no reason to hide, it's not like you ever see Hulk running for cover lmao.
Hey X from now on you need to add Thor avoiding all of Ultron’s bullets from the quinjet as Thor legit bullet timing. Because somehow these people are saying he wasn’t hit by any of those bullets.
@rem: No, I’m saying that anyone who tanks city level stuff should be assumed to be bullet proof unless they have a particular weakness, but that’s besides the fact that Thor has bullet proof feats as I’ve shown
Thor himself has zero clear cut bullet proof feats
The knife example doesnt mean anything all it shows is the asgardian was quick enough to catch it and strong enough to bend the metal which doesnt equal being bullet proof
The Loki example also isnt clear as its hard to tell where it hit him and besides Luke Cage no sells bullets of a much high caliber also Sif saved him from sn arrow that was implied to be able to hurt him
The AOU example also isnt clear cut as Natasha and steve are also fired on and they come out fine
Thor has zero feats of actually tanking a bullet he has fled and coveres from bullets twice, coveres from sakaarian lazers, been stabbed by Loki
But he was cut by Helas blades who were shattered like nothing by M16s
But Thor should in theory be bullet proof from his blunt force and explosion feats
MCU Gamora's sword was noted as being called the godslayer because it was capable of even killing Asgardians. Which heavily implies that regular piercing weapons cannot and that being able to do so is abnormal and impressive.
"Gamora's retractable sword, 'Godslayer,' is so named as it can kill even an Asgardian. When faced with the monstrous energy-draining Abilisk, Gamora uses Godslayer to slice the giant beast's throat."
We know Thor has better piercing durability than normal Asgardians via scaling to Hela's weapons, that Thor handles much better than regular Asgardians and their armor. Take this instance here where he only is cut an inch or two deep by Hela's spear.
Or here, another instance where he's not cut in half by a sword swipe.
Regular and even elite Asgardians on the other hand were cut clean through by her weapons.
Along with Shurge's confirmed Uru armor.
So whatever level of piercing durability regular Asgardians and their armor have Thor exceeds by a large margin.
We know that Thor has endured having his body violently slammed against crystal shards(as confirmed by a Ragnarok VFX supervisor) while going at extreme speeds and without any damage at all. Source
That thinking lead to the idea of sticking a head into the edge of the Bifrost. When that happens, the head and bodies are hit with a barrage of Bifrost crystal shapes.“It’s almost like their bodies become like an umbrella in a huge shower of crystal shards,” adds Morrison. “It starts feeling violent, and I kind of knew that the sound guys at Skywalker would be able to run with something like that and give us a really quite immersive experience.”
“We tried shafts of light but it did not feel dangerous or exciting enough,” adds Burnheim, in terms of what Rising Sun Pictures devised for the shards. “We also tried a splash as if someone fell from a boat and hit the water at high speed but when simulating at the correct speed became messy and confused the story.We finally settled on a shattering effect which tied into some of the refractive nature that we had built into our initial look of the Bifrost. We played with speed, size of the shards and the lighting influences our characters had on their surroundings to give us the final look.”
I don't know about the rest of you but I'd imagine having your head violently pressed up against shattering crystal shards while moving at ridiculous speeds and suffering no damage at all from that is a very notable and impressive piercing feat. Enough to tank bullets.
All I know is Natasha can one-shot Thor with a gun or taser. She's like the anti-Thor of the Avengers. Loki is bulletproof because he's a Frost Giant which=/=Asgardians in stats, so he can take a bullet to the head while Thor cannot. Thor got stabbed by a tiny knife, so as long as you can cut or stab, you at least hurt Thor. A bullet would do much worse. Thor was at full power when he struggled with Iron Man, and he's lucky Cap stepped in because Stark was about to blow him up or turn him into Swiss cheese. Iron Man's Mark 42 suit is bulletproof, but Thor is not because they are made of different materials and we can't scale from that. Cap put up a better fight against Ultron than Thor, so Thor having street level piercing durability makes a lot of sense. With all this flawless logic, it's pretty much a fact that Thor is not bulletproof. Anyone who thinks he is bulletproof is a fanboy and is overrating Thor.
@plotweapon16255: Dude... what? That smoke (the bullet shattering) occurred in the later frame, after the bullet had already landed, his head bouncing back is what made it seem like it got him in the shoulder. The scan I cited was the initial impact, what you posted occurred after the initial impact. Do I really need to detail it for ya? C'mon man, don't be a dunce.
CLEAR-CUT
Here's a frame by frame breakdown:
He took the bullet to the head, tanked it. It's clearer than crystal, unless you're visually impaired.
Edit:
By fan theory wonder woman who was tossed at FTL on earth should be bulletproof but she isn't!
Except you're forgetting one thing, Wonder Woman has split durability, bullets can pierce her skin like a hot knife through butter. Thor has always been an established bullet proof:
Split durability doesn't apply to him (at least not that much), nor the likes of Superman.
I see a lot of assumptions, scaling and hyperbolic statements in the OP but absolutely no evidence, none whatsoever which can be accounted for as definitive evidence that MCU Thor is bulletproof.
Before I begin, I'd like to make this clear that my arguments against the statements in the OP shouldn't indicate my stand on the matter in hand as of yet. I'll elaborate on my stand and come to a conclusion at the end so I'd urge folks to read the entire breakdown first. Thor might as well be bulletproof and he should be. But nothing in the OP indicates that.
First of all, the word Bulletproof is a broad term. Bulletproof to what? Bullets come in all shapes, calibres and sizes with varied penetration and damage output. So merely stating Thor is bulletproof is wrong.
Secondly scaling works only with characters that belong to the same species. Loki being able to take 9mm bullets on his face doesn't automatically make Thor bulletproof. Loki is a frost giant not an Asgardian. Thor being stronger than Loki also doesn't translate to his piercing durability being better than Loki by any means. Wonder Woman is stronger than Aquaman and yet Aquaman is bulletproof to at least small arms but Diana isn't. Diana can trade blows with Superman but still get scraped by bullets. Characters like Spiderman also get shot despite their immense strength. Strength doesn't translate to durability. It's not linear every time. Split durability is a valid concept specially because Durability doesn't overlap as similar to real life science when talking about comic book characters. Here durability can be definitively judged by feats and only by feats.
Also, I've seen absurd statements like Thor is able to tank Sokovia so he should be bulletproof. Sokovia explosion doesn't include piercing attacks. Conversely, energy durability doesn't include piercing durability. Doomsday no sold a nuke and yet Diana's sword sliced him like butter. Steppenwolf no sold heat vision that can cut skyscrapers in half instantly and yet got pierced by Arthur's Trident. Thanos no sold Thor's lightning and yet got cut by Iron Man's Titanium Gold weapons. These are comic book characters we're judging. Here Feats > Logic/Real life science
Now coming to the point in hand. Is Thor bulletproof? Maybe. He should be bulletproof to anything under 7.62 mm that a Quinjet's M134 fires. An Asgardian being able to bend a pocket knife doesn't make Thor bulletproof to even 9mm. There's no relatable logic here. Sif's armour being able to tank Shotgun pellets doesn't make Thor bulletproof to even 5.56 mm. All in all, Thor doesn't have a single feat, none whatsoever of taking small arms fire on his body. But still, I'll assume Thor can take at least upto 7.62 mm. I'll give him benefit of the doubt. The only MCU character that is bulletproof to high calibre gunfire is Hulk (upto 25mm fired from a F-35). Iron Man's first suit probably tanked anti aircraft gunfire which is a high calibre round but his suits have got variable durabilities. More advanced suits of Iron Man have been penetrated by Cap's shield or Hawkeye's arrow. So in case of Iron Man, unless he uses the same suit, durability of one suit cannot be automatically assigned to another.
So again, saying Thor is bulletproof is a wrong statement simply because bullets come in different calibres with varied penetrating power and Thor hasn't clearly tanked even small arms fire yet. But taking everything into consideration, we could assume that Thor is probably bulletproof to at least handguns or anything that fires 9mm, 5.56mm or even 7.62mm. Anything larger than that would shred him as of now because he simply doesn't have feats to take them.
I already thought about that and that's why I assumed that Thor can take small calibre gunfire.
But it's worth nothing that Loki was born as a dwarf and that's why he was abandoned. He is an inferior frost giant by birth. His size or appearance shouldn't indicate that he has been converted into an Asgardian. Whatever sorcery Odin did to him to conceal his identity was just superficial. When a frost giant touched Loki, he became blue in colour. Loki became blue near the Casket of Ancient Winters. So Loki's appearance as an Asgardian is deceptive. He is blue in reality and looks like a Frost Giant. He uses sorcery to conceal his real appearance and look like an Asgardian.
The force Thor has unambiguously generated (i.e., not based on power-scaling or calculations with many assumptions) with his strikes while not tearing himself apart and the hits he's taken from opponents in his same league would make him immune to most military weapons besides nukes. Low-balling him to not even be bulletproof to small-caliber rounds is dumb and trollish.
For the same reasons I also consider Wonder Woman in just about every incarnation to be bulletproof no matter how much dumb writers say she isn't. Yeah, okay, the lady who can drop kick a star into the next galaxy and tank hits from people who do the same can be killed by bullets, my ass.
If Thor was bullet proof then Sif wouldn't have needed to shield him from an ARROW FIRED FROM A GUN:
Thor also wouldn't have been shown on TWO SEPARATE occasions to avoid bullets.
If Thanos was cut proof he would not have been hurt by Stormbreaker, hence MCU punisher with a prison shiv beats him... great argument bro.
If we're talking about bulletproof we refer to earthly weapons not some resistance to anything that can be considered a bullet. And how are we supposed to scale that off an alien weapon using materials and technology possibly not availaible on earth. That arrow could be made of uru and fired with the equivalent force of a nuclear warhead or it could be iron and fired with regular gunpowder. But equating an alien weapon from people much further advanced technologically to a human weapon is like equating the asgardians swords to regular swords. We saw an Asgardian get stabbed by a broken asgardian metal shard but casually stop a combat knife in the same episode.
Also Ultron shot Thor with the turret of the quinjet.
If Thor was bullet proof then Sif wouldn't have needed to shield him from an ARROW FIRED FROM A GUN:
Thor also wouldn't have been shown on TWO SEPARATE occasions to avoid bullets.
This is irrelevant. Thor is bulletproof. This is a projectile from another realm and perhaps can pierce Asgardians. Loki is bulletproof so Thor's durability is>>>>>>>loki
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