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#1 Posted by unBREAKable_Fs4 (4316 posts) - - Show Bio

From my time on this site I have learned that Thor is Superman's equal (ok, maybe a little weaker) but for some odd reason people always say Thor would lose to Wonder Woman. Can someone please explain why people think this, cause from my little knowledge, Thor should be more powerful.

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#2 Edited by green_skaar (12254 posts) - - Show Bio

I haven't seen too often the claim WW is physically stronger than Thor, the argument (right or wrong) is she is faster and a better fighter.

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#3 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (7656 posts) - - Show Bio

Because they're huge fanboys. She's not stronger than Thor, faster and more skilled yes, stronger no.

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#4 Posted by xlab3000 (3947 posts) - - Show Bio

Because they don't know about Thor's high end feats.

Because they're huge fanboys. She's not stronger than Thor, faster and more skilled yes, stronger no.

exactly

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#5 Edited by unBREAKable_Fs4 (4316 posts) - - Show Bio

@green_skaar: I agree is just when they battle here, some people claim she could handle Thor and start to pull out scans of her harming Superman or scan of batman saying she can take Superman

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#6 Posted by unBREAKable_Fs4 (4316 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlab3000 said:

Because they don't know about Thor's high end feats.

@wavemotioncannon said:

Because they're huge fanboys. She's not stronger than Thor, faster and more skilled yes, stronger no.

exactly

Yeah, even though Thor has many fans on this site, it seems like he is a little underrated sometimes

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#8 Posted by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

For the record, I don't think Wonder Woman is actually stronger than Thor. Physically, and I mean in terms of strength, striking power and durability, Thor has the edge. But Wonder Woman is close enough to Thor in that regard to do some serious damage given her showings against Superman, other powerhouses and gods. Also this

I haven't seen too often the claim WW is physically stronger than Thor, the argument (right or wrong) is she is faster and a better fighter.

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#9 Posted by green_skaar (12254 posts) - - Show Bio

@green_skaar: I agree is just when they battle here, some people claim she could handle Thor and start to pull out scans of her harming Superman or scan of batman saying she can take Superman

WW vs Superman is a whole other debate! Back to whose stronger, Thor has certainly had higher end strength feats than WW. But I don't know why strength gets mentioned so much in Battles. It has a minimal role in a fight. It's more important as a plot device to over come certain obstacles. I suppose if all other factors are equal, and there is a huge strength disparity, I'll take the stronger character over the weaker.

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#10 Posted by HeraldofGanthet (4461 posts) - - Show Bio

@wavemotioncannon:

In truth, their strength should be quite equalized due to the fact that Gaea is Thor's mother and Wonder Woman draws her physical strength directly from the Earth via Gaea's gift to her at birth. No fanboyism involved.

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#11 Posted by willpayton (22081 posts) - - Show Bio

Not a battle. This should be moved to another section.

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#12 Posted by kidman560 (7638 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually hold to the fact that if the two fought it would be a 5/10 win for eaither. because yes Wonder Woman is faster but thor is fast enough to keep up with her. but I agree the fanboys of Wonder Woman are the third worst

Flash fanboys are 1

and Black Adam Fanboys are second

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#13 Edited by unBREAKable_Fs4 (4316 posts) - - Show Bio

@green_skaar: I think strength is indeed overrated in fights but even though I believe skill is essential, I still believe Thor is no pushover skill-wise and he isn't too far off from WW. Also they seem pull out the speed argument and while I do agree WW is faster than Thor, I don't believe it's an overwhelming difference. Thor has shown good reaction feats as well but these seem to get ignored by some people.

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#14 Posted by unBREAKable_Fs4 (4316 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually hold to the fact that if the two fought it would be a 5/10 win for eaither. because yes Wonder Woman is faster but thor is fast enough to keep up with her. but I agree the fanboys of Wonder Woman are the third worst

Flash fanboys are 1

and Black Adam Fanboys are second

Ouch, I may be a Flash fanboy but at least I'm not wild like some of the other ones on this site :)

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#15 Posted by kidman560 (7638 posts) - - Show Bio

@green_skaar: I think strength is indeed overrated in fights but even though I believe skill is essential, I still believe Thor is so pushover skill-wise and he isn't too far off from WW. Also they seem pull out the speed argument and while I do agree WW is faster than Thor, I don't believe it's an overwhelming difference. Thor has shown good reaction feats as well but these seem to get ignored by some people.

oh my gosh i want to buy you a beer right now. you are what the vine needs more of. Thank you so much. i agree with you. do you know how awesome a fight between these 2 would actually be.

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#16 Posted by kidman560 (7638 posts) - - Show Bio

@kidman560 said:

I actually hold to the fact that if the two fought it would be a 5/10 win for eaither. because yes Wonder Woman is faster but thor is fast enough to keep up with her. but I agree the fanboys of Wonder Woman are the third worst

Flash fanboys are 1

and Black Adam Fanboys are second

Ouch, I may be a Flash fanboy but at least I'm not wild like some of the other ones on this site :)

i hear you bro its the Flash fanboys that throw out the 1000 impds per second or whatever. i hate

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#17 Posted by AllStarSuperman (43137 posts) - - Show Bio

She's faster smarter cooler and more skilled. Maybe Stronger?

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#18 Posted by unBREAKable_Fs4 (4316 posts) - - Show Bio

@unbreakable_fs4 said:

@green_skaar: I think strength is indeed overrated in fights but even though I believe skill is essential, I still believe Thor is so pushover skill-wise and he isn't too far off from WW. Also they seem pull out the speed argument and while I do agree WW is faster than Thor, I don't believe it's an overwhelming difference. Thor has shown good reaction feats as well but these seem to get ignored by some people.

oh my gosh i want to buy you a beer right now. you are what the vine needs more of. Thank you so much. i agree with you. do you know how awesome a fight between these 2 would actually be.

Thanks :) ...It would be nice to watch these two fight to their full potential. I'd gladly pay to watch it.

(also now I read my post you quoted, I'm pretty shocked by how many typos I have in there lol)

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@xlab3000 said:

Because they don't know about Thor's high end feats.

@wavemotioncannon said:

Because they're huge fanboys. She's not stronger than Thor, faster and more skilled yes, stronger no.

exactly

Yeah, even though Thor has many fans on this site, it seems like he is a little underrated sometimes

Though Thor is drastically underrated on this site, I agree. One of Thor's biggest issues is that he's started to be written like he's a moron. Thor used to be portrayed as the extremely versatile, and very powerful fighter. He was matching everybody at their own game and even exceeding any challenge he was placed against. Then crap like Wolverine vs. Thor started happening, and all his credibility has slowly but surely plummeted. Even though he's written pretty well 80% of the time, it's hard to ignore the other 20% of him jobbing just because some author wants to show off a new villain or make someone seem more powerful than they should by smacking Thor around, when Thor should be able to dominate them without a second thought.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

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#21 Posted by HeraldofGanthet (4461 posts) - - Show Bio

@kidman560: not even close to stronger and probably not smarter either

In truth, their strength should be quite equalized due to the fact that Gaea is Thor's mother and Wonder Woman draws her physical strength directly from the Earth via Gaea's gift to her at birth. No fanboyism involved. *repost*

As to her intelligence, she's no slouch in addition to possessing the Wisdom and Sight of Athena, the Goddess of Wisdom and Warfare. Just saying...

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#22 Edited by xlab3000 (3947 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlab3000 said:

Because they don't know about Thor's high end feats.

@wavemotioncannon said:

Because they're huge fanboys. She's not stronger than Thor, faster and more skilled yes, stronger no.

exactly

Yeah, even though Thor has many fans on this site, it seems like he is a little underrated sometimes

I even posted a respect thread for Thor. they had ignore lit. the dude can contain a bomb that can destroy 1/5 of the universe and can destroy a 100 galaxies. he wins

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#23 Edited by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (4518 posts) - - Show Bio

He's Stronger, Faster (Mobility wise), More Durable, Higher Stamina, Hits harder and is a lot more Powerful.

She's slightly Faster (Combat wise) and a better fighter.

I don't see how she wins.

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#24 Edited by Wolverine008 (51027 posts) - - Show Bio

Because they're huge fanboys. She's not stronger than Thor, faster and more skilled yes, stronger no.

He's Stronger, Faster (Flying wise), More Durable, Higher Stamina, Hits harder and is a lot more Powerful.

She's slightly Faster (Combat wise) and a better fighter.

I don't see how she wins.

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#25 Edited by TifaLockhart (21107 posts) - - Show Bio

Different people have different opinions.

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#26 Edited by SheenLantern (7619 posts) - - Show Bio

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642 said:

He's Stronger, Faster (Flying wise), More Durable, Higher Stamina, Hits harder and is a lot more Powerful.

She's slightly Faster (Combat wise) and a better fighter.

I don't see how she wins.

Slighty faster combat wise?

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#27 Edited by Batman242 (11520 posts) - - Show Bio

@unbreakable_fs4 said:

@green_skaar: I agree is just when they battle here, some people claim she could handle Thor and start to pull out scans of her harming Superman or scan of batman saying she can take Superman

I've never seen anyone claim that she's stronger. Thor is obviously stronger, and nobody denies that. The argument that Thor is a slug and Wonder Woman has better reaction speed, combat speed, more skills in combat and is more versatile (although, Thor is technically more versatile, he just doesn't use his abilities a lot).

Also, not a battle.

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#28 Edited by dondave (41752 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn Can this be moved to the General Discussion Forum?

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#29 Posted by Ratatat (757 posts) - - Show Bio

because she is from DC

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#30 Posted by Superbot400 (427 posts) - - Show Bio

From my time on this site I have learned that Thor is Superman's equal (ok, maybe a little weaker) but for some odd reason people always say Thor would lose to Wonder Woman. Can someone please explain why people think this, cause from my little knowledge, Thor should be more powerful.

It comes down to fact that Wonder Woman has a strong chance aganist Thor because Wonder Woman's braclets, and lasso are pretty good aganist Thor. You could argue that Thor is more powerful than Wonder Woman. However WW is more skilled, faster than Thor.

Thor is more powerful than WW, but in a matchup AGANIST WW is tougher then it looks.

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#31 Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (4518 posts) - - Show Bio

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642 said:

He's Stronger, Faster (Flying wise), More Durable, Higher Stamina, Hits harder and is a lot more Powerful.

She's slightly Faster (Combat wise) and a better fighter.

I don't see how she wins.

Slighty faster combat wise?

Yeah. Most people mistake Thor for a slug when he really isn't. it all depends on who he is fighting. Against Hulk he won't fight as fast. against Silver Surfer he's going all out tagging him left and right.

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#32 Posted by w0nd (6803 posts) - - Show Bio

@sheenlantern said:

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642 said:

He's Stronger, Faster (Flying wise), More Durable, Higher Stamina, Hits harder and is a lot more Powerful.

She's slightly Faster (Combat wise) and a better fighter.

I don't see how she wins.

Slighty faster combat wise?

Yeah. Most people mistake Thor for a slug when he really isn't. it all depends on who he is fighting. Against Hulk he won't fight as fast. against Silver Surfer he's going all out tagging him left and right.

which doesn't make sense, it's poor writing and butchers his character. He drags on fights to be respectful and fair while damage to the city sky rockets.

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#33 Posted by SheenLantern (7619 posts) - - Show Bio

@sheenlantern said:

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642 said:

He's Stronger, Faster (Flying wise), More Durable, Higher Stamina, Hits harder and is a lot more Powerful.

She's slightly Faster (Combat wise) and a better fighter.

I don't see how she wins.

Slighty faster combat wise?

Yeah. Most people mistake Thor for a slug when he really isn't. it all depends on who he is fighting. Against Hulk he won't fight as fast. against Silver Surfer he's going all out tagging him left and right.

Because Silver Surfer's combat speed isn't as impressive as his travel speed.

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#34 Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (4518 posts) - - Show Bio

@sheenlantern: SS is always in motion battling any opponent sometimes he will move around at high speeds and Thor will tag him still. All Thor needs is have Mjolnir tag WW and then he can go put the beat down on her.

@w0nd: Yeah I agree but what can you do :/

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#35 Posted by the_stegman (40187 posts) - - Show Bio

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For the record, I don't think Wonder Woman is actually stronger than Thor. Physically, and I mean in terms of strength, striking power and durability, Thor has the edge. But Wonder Woman is close enough to Thor in that regard to do some serious damage given her showings against Superman, other powerhouses and gods. Also this

@green_skaar said:

I haven't seen too often the claim WW is physically stronger than Thor, the argument (right or wrong) is she is faster and a better fighter.

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#36 Posted by Spideysense44 (3839 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor..ppl just say tht bc he wasnt as strong in the movie

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#38 Posted by Emperorb777 (11086 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't see how WW being stronger than Thor even matters does that somehow take away from his appeal?

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#39 Posted by cameron83 (8548 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow...for once on a battle related thing I actually (currently) agree with the majority....mainly these:

@green_skaar: I think strength is indeed overrated in fights but even though I believe skill is essential, I still believe Thor is no pushover skill-wise and he isn't too far off from WW. Also they seem pull out the speed argument and while I do agree WW is faster than Thor, I don't believe it's an overwhelming difference. Thor has shown good reaction feats as well but these seem to get ignored by some people.

@sheenlantern said:

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642 said:

He's Stronger, Faster (Flying wise), More Durable, Higher Stamina, Hits harder and is a lot more Powerful.

She's slightly Faster (Combat wise) and a better fighter.

I don't see how she wins.

Slighty faster combat wise?

Yeah. Most people mistake Thor for a slug when he really isn't. it all depends on who he is fighting. Against Hulk he won't fight as fast. against Silver Surfer he's going all out tagging him left and right.

He's Stronger, Faster (Mobility wise), More Durable, Higher Stamina, Hits harder and is a lot more Powerful.

She's slightly Faster (Combat wise) and a better fighter.

I don't see how she wins.

these...

@kidman560: not even close to stronger and probably not smarter either

In truth, their strength should be quite equalized due to the fact that Gaea is Thor's mother and Wonder Woman draws her physical strength directly from the Earth via Gaea's gift to her at birth. No fanboyism involved. *repost*

As to her intelligence, she's no slouch in addition to possessing the Wisdom and Sight of Athena, the Goddess of Wisdom and Warfare. Just saying...

I don't really think that they are on equal terms simply because they are using the same mythological character. I mean,feats and such play a HUGE role and I don't think WW is equal in terms of strength. But that's just my opinion,dude. But to elaborate on my previous point,the DC universe version of Thor is not anywhere near as powerful as the Marvel version due to feats...and Marvel's Hippolyta is most likely nothing really to DC's version (not by a longshot...I believe). :)

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#40 Edited by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (4518 posts) - - Show Bio
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#41 Posted by SheenLantern (7619 posts) - - Show Bio

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: It means I don't consider your sentence to incorporate enough credibility to warrent the dignification of a proper response.

Also, ComicVine has a embedded video feature.

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#42 Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (4518 posts) - - Show Bio

@sheenlantern: Oh I know what you meant I was just looking for a chuckle. I can't seem to figure out how to use the video feature :/

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#43 Edited by daxamite (114 posts) - - Show Bio

But can we really say that any Thor from Marvel and DC aren't the same? can we not safely assume that both versions are equal but it depends on the writers how they make the Characters to be ( stronger,faster, etc). Thor and WW never really fought in Marvel and DC so how can we as FANS of DC and MARVEL comics in general say who is stronger than the other or powerful than the other? I've seen Thor be powerful... as part of the Avengers he's power levels are knocked a peg or two ( in a group ) as opposed by himself, Wonder Woman has handled the Gods and Pantheon's in DC's ( War of the Gods )and is also the daughter to Zeus and DC's Gaea like Thor is to Odin and Marvels Gaea, to me They are both fast and strong and seasoned veterans in the field of battle, yet we never saw where WW could let loose all her fury at her disposal .... yet, but we saw how powerful Thor is especially when he has the odin force within him. Read these characters powers and compare them, pretty interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Woman#Powers_and_abilities

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor_(Marvel_Comics)

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#44 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4674 posts) - - Show Bio

From my time on this site I have learned that Thor is Superman's equal (ok, maybe a littlensan weaker) but for some odd reason people always say Thor would lose to Wonder Woman. Can someone please explain why people think this, cause from my little knowledge, Thor should be more powerful.

It's call insanity! No way WW could take Thor, on a bad day with bad writer, or Dc writers even with all the massive upgrades Dc keeps giving it's characters!

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#45 Posted by HeraldofGanthet (4461 posts) - - Show Bio

@cameron83: I don't really think that they are on equal terms simply because they are using the same mythological character. I mean,feats and such play a HUGE role and I don't think WW is equal in terms of strength. But that's just my opinion,dude. But to elaborate on my previous point,the DC universe version of Thor is not anywhere near as powerful as the Marvel version due to feats...and Marvel's Hippolyta is most likely nothing really to DC's version (not by a longshot...I believe). :)

I can see how you've come to the conclusions you've reached. And you've done so without insulting me or others. I can respect that. We only slightly disagree on the strength angle due to the fact that Wonder Woman has some crazy sh*t she's done over the past 65 years, but it's not enough of a disagreement that we can't be internet BFF's (as my baby sister would say) over it;)

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#46 Posted by gokuwarrior (4399 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually hold to the fact that if the two fought it would be a 5/10 win for eaither. because yes Wonder Woman is faster but thor is fast enough to keep up with her. but I agree the fanboys of Wonder Woman are the third worst

Flash fanboys are 1

and Black Adam Fanboys are second

you obiously haven't seen the storm fanboys and the silver surfer fanboys.

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#47 Posted by gokuwarrior (4399 posts) - - Show Bio

He's Stronger, Faster (Mobility wise), More Durable, Higher Stamina, Hits harder and is a lot more Powerful.

She's slightly Faster (Combat wise) and a better fighter.

I don't see how she wins.

he wasn't a lot more powerful than her before the 52,stop underestimating her.

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#48 Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (4518 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior: Yes he was. Do you understand how powerful Thor is. no I don't think so. He's more powerful than Superman. If anything pre 52 WW is overestimated in this bout.

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#49 Posted by gokuwarrior (4399 posts) - - Show Bio

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: if anything you are overstimating thor,he is not as powerful as superman let alone more powerful than him,we are talking about normal thor,not thor with odin force or other special boost that he usually doesn't have.

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#50 Posted by dbatdog (550 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor would beat WW, I could not see why she would be stronger than Thor. She may be stronger than Iron Man or Cap or Ms Marvel, but not Thor or Superman or Hulk...not sure with the Thing...probably the Thing is much strong than WW.