@comicace3 said:
@lord_adamantium said:
@comicace3 said:
@lord_adamantium said:
@rogueshadow said:
@lord_adamantium said:
No. I am glad they did not change his skin color and ethnicity.
I don't think they should change major character's color and ethnicity but for minor ones I think it is perfectly fine.
Finn is a terrible actor though and is not naturally athletic, did not put on any muscle for the part, and was lazy and half-assed his training and it shows.
The actors who played Daredevil and Luke Cage hit the gym and trained hard and it showed in the final results.
He had three weeks to train:
"Well, here's the situation", he begins, explaining that he only had three weeks to train before filming. "Unfortunately, with the filming schedule, I wasn't given as much time as I would have liked to continue the training. Shooting for 12 or 14 hours a day took its toll. I was learning those fight scenes just 15 minutes before we shot them, because that was the schedule... It would be 2am, 3am, I'd just done a long day of work, and usually the stunt department would come up and say "Hey, right, we've got this huge 30 person fight and you've got to learn it right now. So I was learning it on the spot, within 15-20 minutes, and then shooting it. That was the reality for six months."
3 weeks is more than enough time to put on from 5-10 lbs of muscle,get your stances down pat, develop power and speed and skill in your basic movements and hone your balance and agility. He half-assed his training and diet regimen is all.
He also had an entire 6 months during filming to further hone his skill, build muscle, diet properly perfect his stances, flexibility, and movement, power, and speed which he half-assed also.
I could take any average person and make them camera-ready and fight ready in 3 weeks. It would be tough training but it can be done. The toughest part would be flexibility depending on their genetics but an hour devoted to stretching every day prior to training would do the trick.
Finn is just lazy and it shows.
I can cut him a bit of slack for not learning the fight scenes ahead of time but his power, speed, stances, and execution are what are crap, as well as his poor physique.
He is just full of excuses instead of admitting that he was lazy and didn't train his hardest nor follow the correct nutritional protocol.
For who?!?!
For the average person who has a good trainer and follows the proper workout, nutrition, and supplementation regimen. Those genetically predisposed to gain more muscle faster would see even more impressive gains. I myself and a slim-mesomorph and gain even faster than that although even a below average gainer should gain at least 5 lbs of solid muscle in three weeks following the protocol that i have referenced above.
If the average person were someone like steve rogers who got the super soldier serum.
I'm calling bullshit. It's impossible to gain 5-10 pounds or muscle in 3 weeks unless you are on some sort of steroid cycle. Even then, it's still nearly impossible.
Also My first day of Wing Chun training at the kwoon of an actual Chinese master I nearly passed out and had to crawl to the bathroom (his assistant instructor was really short and jealous of my height so he pushed the entire class to where many in-shape students vomited just to try and break me). The next day at my first class of Hung Gar I could barely walk after class because of stance work<----these are the levels at which Finn should have been trained (both the martial arts and the weight training) from day one and every day with the weekends off where he only stretched and did internal exercises so he could recover fully for the next, even more, intensive week.
*Does intense martial arts training
*Nearly passes out
*Does Kung fu class next day
*Fatigued after stance work
Either this is more bullshit or you're a comic character.
But lets say I take you seriously for a moment. This is just even more proof that its not possible to gain an absurd amount of muscle in a short period of time. I've done martial arts as well, and like a normal human there have been times where I couldn't even walk right with the amount of intense training I went through. You mean to tell me that it is still possible to gain 5-10 pounds of muscle while still being able to go through intense training such as this? How many hours do you think it would require to achieve this? Cuz it is definitely in the same amount of time as three weeks.
The body is capable of much much more than sedentary people realize. But you can't half-ass it or be lazy like Finn or you won't get the results.
Alright Captain America.
You have never lifted weights intensively for 3 weeks then if you feel that it takes the super soldier serum to gain 5-10 lbs in 3 week. With today's supplements, the proper nutrition, and the right training program it is common-place to gain that much. Actually if you don't you are doing something very wrong or have a testosterone deficiency, endocrine issues, pituitary problems or some other physical problem. 5-10 lbs in 3 weeks is nothing. With steroids you would likely gain 20+ lbs in the same amount of time let alone steroids+HGH (human growth hormone). You are simply speculating because of your lack of experience in the area and you are completely mistaken.
I could put you on a weight-training, nutrition, and supplementation plan that would easily garner you 5-10 lbs of muscle in 3 week 9wtih most coming in the first week) but you had to adhere to it and not half-ass it. That is, like i stated, unless you have some physical handicaps or genetic issues and even then 2-5 lbs may be possible within that time-frame.
No my friend the body is capable of much more than you know because you have not trained. It does not take a comic book character to goto 2 tough martial arts classes in 2 days. it was tough, it was hell, it hurt...a LOT...but i did it and i survived it and got stronger.
I challenge you to go to one martial arts class and another the next day. You can do it. it will be very difficult. But you can make it through it. Millions of people have gone through much much more than that. Heck my first and second days of construction work, roofing, and brick-laying (my first week actually) were tougher than that from a willpower/pain/endurance standpoint.
It is normal to get light-headed when starting a workout regimen. The next day you may be sore and fatigued but you can still go to your next class you just have to push yourself.
Well, my friends have called me a genetic freak but I am just a slim-mesomorph with a relatively high metabolism who is athletic. There are literally hundreds of thousands of people like me in the United States alone.
1 hour of stretching/warm-up+ 45 minutes of weight training+ 1 hour of stance work, speed, power, and technique training 5 days a week would be all Finn would have needed. with the weekends being for stretching and internal forms and work only for recovery.
Many mma fighters both amateur and pro get in shape with only 3 weeks notice and gain strength, size, speed, and endurance. often times they go from laying on the couch to training when another fighter is injured or pulls out of the show.
Finn is just lazy.
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