Who's had a harder life - Captain America or Batman?

Bruce.

Wayne.

Steve.

Yeah Bruce lost his parents but everything else that happened was on him.

Meanwhile Steve grew up a frail, sickly, kid in Brooklyn. To a poor immigrant family. Whom also died.

Hahahajahaja!! @the fanboy's choosing Batman. "My mommy and daddy died I can never get over it. So I'll just drown in my rich privileged life." Lol

Steve never stood a chance in hell. Dude literally never had nothing...not even his health.

After becoming Cap he gave his life everyday in war. Even losing his best friend and only friend then he gets frozen in ice. Losing his entire world becoming the man out of time.

Where was Bruce this whole time? Setting in his mansion STILL just crying about his mommy and daddy. Cap would be like "son get your act together. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Belive me when I say you could lose a whole lot more."

Life in general? Bruce, though it was mostly due to his own choice.

Steve

Well Batman had to work really hard to get where he's at, Cap just got a serum. Both can bench over 1000 lbs but when you look at the reasoning behind this, then it would seem Bruce has a tougher life physically.

Batman.Cap used steroids.

Wayne

Captain America woke up in an Era not his own losing EVERYONE he cared about except Bucky. Batman has tons of allies and even has kids and people like Alfred and Gordon.

Batman obviously.

Bruce Wayne.

Bruce lost his parents while Steve lost his entire life. Bruce still grew up with the best money could offer his depression was entirely on him

This, and even then he went for years without his sidekick.

No fanboyism

Bruce:

1. He lost his PARENTS

2. He lost Jason Todd

3. Alfred was near death

4. Barbara crippled by his archnemesis

5. Died, kinda, but had a tough journey in history

Now all other things, he have masochism and like to torture himself, have an near-unlimited wealth with a lot of allies, friends, love interests.

Steve:

1. Being an Irish immigrant in mid 30

2. Abusive and alcoholic dad

3. Living in Brooklyn in 30's

4. Poor

5. Frail and weak

6. Never get to experience real love with Peggy Carter

7. Frozen for several decades

8. Old allies and friends are dead

9. Unborn child with Sharon

10. Trapped ten years in dimension Z

11. HAIL HYDRA

Batman

Batman.

Captain America used drugs/peds to get where he's at, while Bats trained most of his life to be the badass that he is today.

Bats is 100% natural, while Cap is the typical gym rat ped/roid using buff guy. There's a good reason why Lance Armstrong lost all of his 7 Tour de France titles when he admitted to doping and using peds.

Also, being rich doesn't save you from your personal monsters like being miserable and depressed. Bats defeated all of his monsters and immerged victorious.

Captain America.

Cap lost everythone he loved basically (save for bucky ) when he was frozen in ice, while batman had people like alfred, gordon, the robins, batgirls, etc. He's had a lot of ways to cope with the things that's happened to him. In the end, he still had a family and hope while steve lost his family and much more. Steve had to go through a lot more sh!t imo.

Cap by far

Hmmm....the billionaire who had two loving parents and grew up rich and privileged? Or the sick, frail, poor child who had to watch his alcoholic abusive father beat the shit out of his mother?

Tough choice.....

@zepta_pon: no, how one got his powers is not all there is to this.

Both of their parents died at their teenage where most people don't know much about Captain America's younger life where he and his parents suffered through poverty and his physical problems literally made him abandoned among the army where Cap always wanted to contribute for his country ........So i would rather choose Cap over Bruce even though i am a bigger fan of Batman because of his legacy,code and all those hard choices he had to made in his life .......

Cap.

By harder life, are you just speaking about their childhood?. If yes, then Cap and it's not close.

At the end of the day, Bats still has no super powers. He's still 100% natural. People say Bats has friends, ok (even when he also experienced tragedy with his friends). But they seem to forget that Cap took the SSS, a drug that boosted his stats to super human levels that gave him super powers. He got his wish granted just like that, no years of hard work needed. That's how Cap coped, by taking the magic drug.

The thread is asking:

Who's had a harder life - Captain America or Batman?

Which character has had it harder, and overall worse in life?

We're not just talking about their past or their childhood here. Bats still has it much worse as a super hero than Cap.

Steve and it is not close

@zepta_pon: But they seem to forget that Cap took the SSS, a drug that boosted his stats to super human levels that gave him super powers. He got his wish granted just like that, no years of hard work needed. That's how Cap coped, by taking the magic drug.

First of all, he didn't "wish" for becoming a super solider. He wished to serve his country and was chosen precisely because of his valour and selflessness. And are you saying that possessing powers automatically makes your life easier?

Also note that Steve didn't have even a tiny fraction of the resources and connections Bruce did . Plus he was a sickly asthmatic who would have died climbing up a flight of stairs too fast. He wouldn't have been able to train naturally even if he wanted to. And speaking of training, his combat prowess, intelligence and leadership skills have nothing to do with the serum. That's all him.

Captain America hands down

Bruce lost his parents. Steve lost everything, and wasn't exactly living a charmed life before then. Plus a lot of Bruce's angst is self inflicted.

@brucerogers:

First of all, he didn't "wish" for becoming a super solider. He wished to serve his country and was chosen precisely because of his valour and selflessness.

Ok.

And are you saying that possessing powers automatically makes your life easier?

Yes.

Also note that Steve didn't have even a tiny fraction of the resources and connections Bruce did.

He didn't, but he had the magic drug that gave him instant super powers, and everything and everyone that came after it. Cap had everything to gain in terms of what he wished for when he took that drug. It very much nullifies Bruce's advantages in wealth.

Plus he was a sickly asthmatic who would have died climbing up a flight of stairs too fast. He wouldn't have been able to train naturally even if he wanted to. And speaking of training, his combat prowess, intelligence and leadership skills have nothing to do with the serum. That's all him.

All of his super powered physical abilities came from the drug. His speed, reflexes and overall combat skills are boosted by the drug. It can even be argued that the drug might have also boosted his intelligence. It goes with out saying - Steve still needed to take the SSS to be full Cap. Now, if Steve became full Cap with nothing but training and hard work, then he wins this thread hands down.

People are acting like Captain America doesn't have any friends. He does. Yeah, he grew up sick and poor, missed out on the lives of his friends and family due to being stuck in the ice but he chose that. He was a man grown when he decided to go to war. He was already willing to risk it all. He was also gifted with incredible powers to boot, lets not forget that. Bruce , however, was just a little kid when he saw his parents gunned down in front of him. This would break adults, much less children. And even though he's rich, he still pushed his body and mind well beyond it's limits to accomplish his goals. That alone would be hell.

Well, having blonde hair, blue eyes and being the ideal height would make him a target for liberals, SJW sand minority's.

Even Batman doesn't have a life that hard.

Lol at this thread. DC fanboy's still trying to act like Batman is the most tormented and darkest hero because if not....he's just an idiot in bat suit. Cap stomps hands down. And lol at the people trying to make this about Batman's sick gains! Lmao!!

Batman just doesn't work. This is a mismatch. Lock da thread.

@buttersdaman000: You neglected your own point. Batman Chose Everything. He chose the training, he chose to test himself it’s what he wants. The only thing that happened to him that he couldn’t really control was his parents being shot.

What was Steve gonna do? Let the nukes destroy countries? He basically had to do it.

What's Batman gonna do, let crime destroy his city?

You invalidated your own point in the same post you try to argue I invalidated mine. However, I don't think I did. My point about Steve choosing was in response to people saying he had a harder life because everyone he knew is dead. Steve knew there was a strong possibility he'd never see his loved ones again. As a grown man, he made this decision. Bruce, didn't have any say in the most traumatic moment of his life. It just happened. Afterwards, he decided to put his body through hell to do something about it. There's a huge difference between who's life has been harder and why.

@buttersdaman000: Steve was an orphan too. His father died of flu and his mom was sick for days, before painfully succumbing, in a time when they had no money to pay for food or rent. Let alone any sort of treatment.

So his tragedic days went back way before the war and he most certainly didnt choose it.

Oh, really? Hmmm I thought he was just frail and poor. Damn, it's hard to say now. On the one hand, Steves life is rough, but a lot of people had rough lives back in the 30's (which is when I assume his parents died). He may have thought his despair was relatively normal back then. Then on the other, Batman grew up privileged yet still saw his parents die in a gutter. Even worse, his despair may have been looked down on since he was still rich at the end of the day.

I think i'm still going to go with Batman only because his experience screwed up his head. The dude is a textbook of mental disorders.

@buttersdaman000: That's fair. Just wanted to make sure you had the full picture lol.

Thanks haha

Cap. Bruce's parents being murdered when he was a child is tragic and all but those sort of things all the time, that is life. In Bruce case it's even less tragic as he had an unlimited resources throughout life to do whatever he wants.

Falcone pointed it out here.

@zepta_pon:Yes.

So you are saying that the countless superpowered individuals from DC and Marvel have easy lives just because of that?. That's a pretty ignorant thing to say, to be frank.

And Cap's powers are his physicals augmented to just peak of human potential levels. He is no Superman or even Luke Cage. So he can't exactly breeze through the stuff that would have Batman on the ropes or outright kill him.

He didn't, but he had the magic drug that gave him instant super powers, and everything and everyone that came after it. Cap had everything to gain in terms of what he wished for when he took that drug. It very much nullifies Bruce's advantages in wealth.

You really think his comrades in arms followed his lead because he could lift and run faster?. No, he had to earn his keep even after getting his powers. Only then they started respecting and following him. To say nothing of his virtues and skills that had nothing to do with his powers.

And Bruce just didn't have the advantage of money - he was also not a disease ridden boy who could have died at a moments notice by breathing too hard.

All of his super powered physical abilities came from the drug. His speed, reflexes

Yep.

and overall combat skills are boosted by the drug.

Nope, completely untrue. Skill has nothing to do with physicals. He had to learn all that, like the rest of them. To further drive the point home, just take a look at the times when he had lost the serum but could still kick ass. Hell, even after losing that and physically ageing to 90 years old, he could still beat Ian Zola. Zola could run circles around Thor, Hulk and Iron Man.

It can even be argued that the drug might have also boosted his intelligence.

It increased his brain's processing speed and power, but that alone isn't an indicator of intellect. Unless you believe Quicksilver is smarter than Reed Richards because he can think much faster.

It goes with out saying - Steve still needed to take the SSS to be full Cap. Now, if Steve became full Cap with nothing but training and hard work, then he wins this thread hands down.

If you think a serum is all that there is to Captain America, I would go out on a limb and say you don't know the character very well.

@brucerogers:

So you are saying that the countless superpowered individuals from DC and Marvel have easy lives just because of that?.

Compared to 100% normal human beings that need to train and work hard? Absolutely YES. Whether you agree or not, super powers do matter.

That's a pretty ignorant thing to say, to be frank.

Are you kidding? Not everyone in those universes have super powers. You're simply blowing the context out of proportions to make an unnecessary point.

And Cap's powers are his physicals augmented to just peak of human potential levels. He is no Superman or even Luke Cage. So he can't exactly breeze through the stuff that would have Batman on the ropes or outright kill him.

I never said he's Superman level.

You really think his comrades in arms followed his lead because he could lift and run faster?. No, he had to earn his keep even after getting his powers. Only then they started respecting and following him. To say nothing of his virtues and skills that had nothing to do with his powers.

So did Bats, and he's still 100% natural.

Nope, completely untrue. Skill has nothing to do with physicals. He had to learn all that, like the rest of them. To further drive the point home, just take a look at the times when he had lost the serum but could still kick ass. Hell, even after losing that and physically ageing to 90 years old, he could still beat Ian Zola. Zola could run circles around Thor, Hulk and Iron Man.

He wouldn't have been able to train naturally even if he wanted to.

You said it yourself. Without the drug, Steve won't be able to learn and train. I never said his combat skills are entirely reliant on the drug, but the drug did play a very important role in learning, training and honing his combat skills.

It increased his brain's processing speed and power, but that alone isn't an indicator of intellect. Unless you believe Quicksilver is smarter than Reed Richards because he can think much faster.

Ok.

If you think a serum is all that there is to Captain America, I would go out on a limb and say you don't know the character very well.

People keep bringing up Bruce's wealth, so I'll keep bringing up Steve's magic drug. At the end of the day, Bruce still has no super powers. He's still 100% natural. He still needed to train and work really hard for a long time to be Bats. Bat's is simply more human than Cap.

Bruce.

Steve.

Grew up poor and being bullied, lost his best friend in the war, got frozen and woke up to have everybody he loved be dead or on their death bed. Had to fight his best friend. The list goes on and on

@buttersdaman000: its also worth noting that whe they both lost their parents at a young age, Bruce at least had loving parents. Steve's father was an abusive alcoholic who beat the shit out of his mother in front of him. Better to have had wealthy loving happy parents than living in domestic violence and poverty.