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#1 Posted by HulkBusterx9 (930 posts) - - Show Bio

Leave your thoughts.

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#2 Posted by jayc1324 (26421 posts) - - Show Bio
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my guy

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#3 Posted by Mr_Shazam0920 (4169 posts) - - Show Bio

Strictly MCU and excluding Netflix, damn I would probably say Natasha.

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#4 Posted by Amcu (16246 posts) - - Show Bio

Currently alive? Daredevil. If we include the deceased Stick.

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#5 Posted by Scipio123 (625 posts) - - Show Bio

Bet some fanboy is gonna say Thor lol

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#6 Edited by Vertigo- (17683 posts) - - Show Bio

Matt in his prime is surely a contender. I'll also throw out a mention to Hawkeye as well. Being able to give T'Challa a good fight during Civil War in melee combat is still impressive to me

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#7 Posted by GateOfBabylon (3694 posts) - - Show Bio

In terms of pure H2H skill? Daredevil.

Clint and Nat are up there too.

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#8 Posted by The_Magister (13498 posts) - - Show Bio

Melinda May and Bobbi Morse.

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#9 Edited by APEX_pretador (19693 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk

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#10 Posted by The_Hajduk (5970 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor.

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#11 Edited by Jmarshmallow (13840 posts) - - Show Bio

Too close to call, IMO.

But Clint, Natasha, Cap, Matt, and Gamora all deserve a spot on the top.

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#12 Posted by buildhare (8618 posts) - - Show Bio

Murdock or Rand

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#13 Posted by MarvelandDCfan24 (7164 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol Thor is not fanboys are crazy

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#14 Posted by Greysentinel365 (6016 posts) - - Show Bio

Melinda May

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#15 Posted by Stormdriven (17720 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America

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#16 Posted by jashro44 (52066 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_hajduk: If you compare how they've both faired against hulk thanos could be argued as more skilled than Thor.

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#17 Edited by deltahuman (4969 posts) - - Show Bio

Including deceased characters : Stick

By in universe logic/H2H skill feats: Probably Danny Rand (he'll get there )/Matt Murdock

Pound for pound (without any bodily augmentation or superhuman abilities): Bobbi Morse (case can be made for Melinda May but Bobbi has better combination of skill and physicals)

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#18 Edited by CarmineDcMarvel (255 posts) - - Show Bio

Danny Rand.

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#19 Edited by ANTHP2000 (25819 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm assuming unarmed?

In terms of raw technical skill and practical ability, Melinda May and Bobbi Morse. Natasha is an extremely close contenter, and Matt and Daisy are very good too.

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#20 Posted by AngelJax (11597 posts) - - Show Bio

Melinda May or Bobbi Morse

Matt Murdock and Daisy Johnson are really close seconds

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#21 Posted by RBT (27164 posts) - - Show Bio

Going with main protagonists, Matt. By far. Danny is the only one who even comes close. And that too because of scaling from Matt.

Nothing else in MCU comes even remotely close to outskilling Black Sky.

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#22 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (15412 posts) - - Show Bio

Daredevil

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#23 Posted by Glavene (178 posts) - - Show Bio

May and Bobbi

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#24 Posted by YOA_501 (685 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America

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#25 Posted by deactivated-5c830d4e319e6 (4952 posts) - - Show Bio

Daredevil without a doubt.

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#26 Posted by Thorthunder98 (6612 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron Fist or Daredevil, I'd put them on kind of equal footing

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#27 Posted by The_Hajduk (5970 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

@the_hajduk: If you compare how they've both faired against hulk thanos could be argued as more skilled than Thor.

Thor was punching way up against Hulk. I don't think that their strength is very close. Thanos used skills to beat Hulk but he did it while also being physically superior.

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#28 Posted by Thor_Parker82 (15995 posts) - - Show Bio

Prime Matt Murdock

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#29 Posted by GeraltsOpinion (391 posts) - - Show Bio

Matt Murdock

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#30 Posted by jashro44 (52066 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

@the_hajduk: If you compare how they've both faired against hulk thanos could be argued as more skilled than Thor.

Thor was punching way up against Hulk. I don't think that their strength is very close. Thanos used skills to beat Hulk but he did it while also being physically superior.

He was but being smaller also makes it easier for him to avoid Hulks hits similar to what Blonsky did. Thanos was tagged less and he only used his superior strength to regain composure. Also for what its worth the Russos have described Thanos as unbeatable on the battlefield.

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#31 Edited by The_Hajduk (5970 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: I don’t think that’s a universal rule. Smaller size can certainly be used well, which Thor did, but in general I think it’s better to be as big or bigger then your opponent. I was actually thinking of this as another advantage Thanos had, the fact that he had the stature to actually match Hulk.

Basically think about what would happen if Thor was as big and as strong as Hulk. He’d own him.

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#32 Posted by Aka_aka_aka_ak (2917 posts) - - Show Bio

Surprised no one has said, by universe logic it should be Gamora.

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#33 Posted by jashro44 (52066 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: I don’t think that’s a universal rule. Smaller size can certainly be used well, which Thor did, but in general I think it’s better to be as big or bigger then your opponent. I was actually thinking of this as another advantage Thanos had, the fact that he had the stature to actually match Hulk.

I think it helps Thanos land more precise hits like that throat jab because he doesn't have to reach up to do that. But Thanos also dodged Hulk easier than Thor did imo, despite being a bigger target.

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#34 Posted by The_Hajduk (5970 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:
@the_hajduk said:

@jashro44: I don’t think that’s a universal rule. Smaller size can certainly be used well, which Thor did, but in general I think it’s better to be as big or bigger then your opponent. I was actually thinking of this as another advantage Thanos had, the fact that he had the stature to actually match Hulk.

I think it helps Thanos land more precise hits like that throat jab because he doesn't have to reach up to do that. But Thanos also dodged Hulk easier than Thor did imo, despite being a bigger target.

It's kind of easier to dodge when you know that you can take the hit. Thanos had a lot of composure and confidence and focus. When Thor fights Hulk, he puts a lot more effort into defense, because he's basically fighting a weight class up, but I don't think that indicates he's less nimble. Their entire approaches to the fight are so different that I don't think we can swap them to compare skill like this. What do you think?

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#35 Posted by jashro44 (52066 posts) - - Show Bio
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#36 Posted by SupremeGeneration (11433 posts) - - Show Bio

lmao @ Gamora

Matt and May take the cake.

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#37 Posted by Lord_Titan_ (2560 posts) - - Show Bio

Gamora should technically be first by logic , but comic vine logic states you must have 5 years of feats to be eligible

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#38 Posted by The_Kidd (11797 posts) - - Show Bio

@lord_titan_: What logic? Her self appointed title, not even comics is that taken seriously.

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#39 Posted by GeorgeWBush (11586 posts) - - Show Bio

Daredevil

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#40 Edited by Rockette (5678 posts) - - Show Bio

Scar Jo / Black Widow = Best, and by a pretty decent margin.

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#41 Edited by deactivated-5c6c427da31ab (357 posts) - - Show Bio

Bobbi>Natasha>Matt=Melinda May and then the rest

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#42 Posted by Emperorb777 (10983 posts) - - Show Bio

Punisher, just wanted to give him a mention.

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#43 Posted by Amonfire1776 (2919 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos

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#44 Edited by Gaoron (8278 posts) - - Show Bio

Why are people saying Gamora?

Either way I never watched Shield, from what I've seen Daredevil is the best.

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#45 Edited by unseenforce01 (22 posts) - - Show Bio

The strongest is definitely Bobbi (and if anyone disagrees please let me know) but Widow has the best fight scenes IMO.

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#46 Edited by RukelnikovFTW (6131 posts) - - Show Bio

Melinda May or Stick.

Bobbi, Matt, and maybe BW, are contenders too.

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#47 Edited by Darkthunder (1150 posts) - - Show Bio

Whoa why aren't T'challa and N'Jadaka

Here?

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#48 Posted by Doomsguy (261 posts) - - Show Bio
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BP says hello to Matt.

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#49 Posted by DarkHoudini (121 posts) - - Show Bio

Matt and Bobbi.

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#50 Posted by TotallyNotJucas (579 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd say Surtur, he'd beat anyone here in h2h.