who is smarter MCU Thor or DCEU Wonder Woman

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there both pretty stupid

lol. stalemate

Diana. She's a curator at the Louvre, and she speaks hundreds of languages (partially demonstrated), neither are things you do or get if you are dim.

Diana, Thor himself acknowledges hes an idiot

must have a pretty skilled tongue ;)

Diana. She was naive in her film, but grew to understand the world better.

Thor was a hot-headed idiot, nearly causing a war for chauvinistic reasons. He did get more calm and thus seemed more intelligent later on, though.

Thor is a phenomenal dumbass

@deltahuman said:

Diana

Thor is maybe wiser by the end of Ragnarok, he's come a long way towards reaching his potential. Whereas Diana was kinda stuck in a rut, at least at the start of JL.

Diana is probably smarter though.

Thor has a better knowledge of the universe

Cosmic knowledge - Thor

Earthly knowledge - Diana

Wisdom - Stalemate, both have been shaped positively by experience

Well said, mate.

Not the Bro God.

Neither has done anything to make me think they were supremely intelligent. Thor is more of a hot head so I guess maybe you could say Diana because of that. I really need to see Ragnarok again to be sure.

Thor, the technology on his world far outclasses that on Themyscira, and he was able to figure out how to fly multiple aircraft he had never flown before in TDW and Ragnarok. He seems stupid sometimes because he is kind of arrogant and can be a hot-head but that is not the case. He is likely better with tactical intelligence too, given how many wars he has been in and won.

Diana seems to have an average intelligence, maybe above average just due to her age. But she hasn't really done anything to prove it. Thor hasn't done much either, but it is more than Diana has. And I think that being the Odin's son would grant him the best education, in a world with technology centuries beyond Earth's.

This,

Thor is smarter IMO. But Diana has far more Wisdom than Thor.

Thor he is an advanced alien

Wonder Woman

thor actually, he knows stuff about the universe that will make Diana jealous.

Thor surprisingly however he have the advantages of coming from an advanced society, more screen time allows for growth.

Thor is smart when he needs to be. Otherwise he can be pretty dumb and naive.

Diana is much more of earthly intelligent.

However that doesn't make him smarter:

@outside_85: Right, but that ship was as alien to him as it would have been to you or me, he'd never seen a dark elf before then, let alone one of their ships.

Why would that stop him if he's from an equally ancient civilization?

Not to mention when his much smarter half-brother is actually standing right next to him telling him that hitting the console is not how it works.

@outside_85:

Why would that stop him if he's from an equally ancient civilization?

That's like, racist. In all seriousness though, he's a prince and a warrior first, I doubt even being well educated that he'd be knowledgeable in how to fly a spacecraft, let alone a foreign one. Could you handle being dropped in the pilot seat of a Chinese airliner without any prior training?

Not to mention when his much smarter half-brother is actually standing right next to him telling him that hitting the console is not how it works

Well that's just it isn't it? He's much smarter. The solutions to his problems are schemes, not hammers.

LOL. Thor got dumber in Ragnarok.

The one who didn't come up with "Get Help" is automatically considered smarter.

The one that lost a home world and an eye and still jokes around is definitely not smarter.

RAWG Outrage! :) My point was rather than people assume here that Thor is smarter because he is from an advanced and ancient civilization, yet we never actually see him be that smart. No he might not be able to fly the Dark Elf ship... but he can't drive a normal car either, he had to ask Jane for a lift.

Which is another point. Loki and Thor are opposites of each other, Loki uses his head, Thor uses his fists... thats why Loki gets beat up and Thor ends up outsmarted.

Also, I should bring this back to comparison with Diana. When I said she was the smarter, I pointed to the fact that she has a job at one of the most prestigious museums in the world... I dont think you end up a curator there unless you come with a degree from somewhere, even if she could show up and wing it with her knowledge of the past, she likely isn't getting in.

On top of that I have to point out that, she is one of two people that we know about who used brainpower to figure out that Batman is Bruce Wayne. The other being Lex Luthor, while Superman used his superhearing and Cyborg tapped his communications. Now I am not saying Diana is Lex-levels of smart... but clearly smarter than the average person in the DCEU seems to be.

@outside_85:

RAWG Outrage! :) My point was rather than people assume here that Thor is smarter because he is from an advanced and ancient civilization, yet we never actually see him be that smart. No he might not be able to fly the Dark Elf ship... but he can't drive a normal car either, he had to ask Jane for a lift.

I forgot about that...that's hilarious! To his credit though, he did seem to know a lot about physics when he needed to escape Sakaar though "the devil's anus."

Which is another point. Loki and Thor are opposites of each other, Loki uses his head, Thor uses his fists... thats why Loki gets beat up and Thor ends up outsmarted.

It makes it so easy to ship them <3

Also, I should bring this back to comparison with Diana. When I said she was the smarter, I pointed to the fact that she has a job at one of the most prestigious museums in the world... I dont think you end up a curator there unless you come with a degree from somewhere, even if she could show up and wing it with her knowledge of the past, she likely isn't getting in.

She's definitely smart, at least in the sense that she's very knowledgeable about history and linguistics, but she's also got a lot of shortcomings. Spending hundreds of years isolated, she didn't know what holding hands was, or proper attire, or really any normal social convention, though that's not anything she hasn't learned. IMO she's not been in enough for people to fully gauge her intelligence, and on the other hand, Thor's had 5 movies to establish he's a goofus.

On top of that I have to point out that, she is one of two people that we know about who used brainpower to figure out that Batman is Bruce Wayne. The other being Lex Luthor, while Superman used his superhearing and Cyborg tapped his communications. Now I am not saying Diana is Lex-levels of smart... but clearly smarter than the average person in the DCEU seems to be.

Didn't aquaman kinda of just already know who he was?

Diana is pretty stupid when you think about it

Thor is an idiot but he's quite intelligent

Wasn't that because he asked?

And many have undoubtedly... meanwhile Sif is crying at a bar with the 2nd bottle of Jack D. :)

I would argue that's not a sign of lack of intelligence, it's the sign that she came from a different culture, not to mention she was literally right off the boat. Like you could compare it a bit to the Maori who still greet certain people with a strange dance involving a lot of shouting. And certainly Thor has had 5 movies to establish he is a goofus... I dont think we are going to see him solve difficult math questions in Infinity War now :)

Only by the way of Bruce practically telling him... kinda like throwing a Batarang at Barry. Considering how he otherwise was, I would say Arthurs lack of 'wow' was simply down to his gruff personality.

@outside_85:

Wasn't that because he asked?

What do you mean?

And many have undoubtedly... meanwhile Sif is crying at a bar with the 2nd bottle of Jack D. :)

Poor Sif lol. She's been replaced by Tessa Thompson.

I would argue that's not a sign of lack of intelligence, it's the sign that she came from a different culture, not to mention she was literally right off the boat. Like you could compare it a bit to the Maori who still greet certain people with a strange dance involving a lot of shouting. And certainly Thor has had 5 movies to establish he is a goofus... I dont think we are going to see him solve difficult math questions in Infinity War now :)

Totally, most of her shortcomings were due to just being foreign to the new culture. But! But as far as being the person to solve their problems with math is concerned, I think it's batman and cybrog who are going to corner that market in future films. Thor is definitely not going to be the mastermind in IW. If I had to place money on it, I'd go with Black Panther, Stephen Strange, or Tony Stark.

Only by the way of Bruce practically telling him... kinda like throwing a Batarang at Barry. Considering how he otherwise was, I would say Arthurs lack of 'wow' was simply down to his gruff personality.

It surprised me how nonchalant Bruce was about having a secret identity. In the Nolan films it was always a bigger deal, but I guess it's not that important for this batman ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Well, I mean, when he woke up in Hulks flat, didn't he ask Valkyrie how to get off that planet and back to Asgard?

But then again if Thor is being shipped with Loki, I am sure there is room for some Val/Sif shipping too :)

All true. Assuming they survive :)

I think it's important enough. But at the same time, he is perhaps getting sloppy around BvS along with his morals loosening up? Maybe Lex knew it for ages? (Note Lex showed up at Wayne Manor when he was admitted to the comic League without having been told) I am definitely certain Clark was asked (by Lex) to attend the gala just so he could learn that Bruce is Batman. Diana I suspect knew in advance because she knew when and where to get that hard-drive she made off with.

after looking at the post Thor

iq wise i give it to Diana, when it comes to how much knowledge they have or have attained over the years then probably Thor in the cosmic sense and Diana in the Earthly sense. Wisdom however is a whole nother thing on its own which can be made cases for either character being wiser in. Then there is also their knowledge in combat that we have to consider as well which is debatable.

Thor He was raised and taught in a 5-6 world. Pretty sure themiscyra is the least undeveloped civilization in earth LOL

What is he?

Thor is wiser and has more knowledge of Space. I assume Thor knows several alien languages

Diana know more earth languages, and probably more knowledgeable on Earth sciences, history, and cultures.

Wonder Woman. No contest

Thor is a huge jokester and never demonstrates above average intelligence.

Thor has not demonstrated any special intelligence. Diana speaks every language on Earth, reads dead languages, and curates a museum.

Wonder Woman is a lot smarter than Thor

Most of these argument for Wonder Woman, is that she know a lot about earth history and culture, but i'm sure Thor knows a lot about Asgard history and culture, as well as the history and culture of the other 8 realms.

Knowledge of nine reals > Earthly knowledge. Thor/Banner ( some1 with multiple PHDS) both was easily talking about a collapsing neutron stars...

Knowledge of Nine reals and ^ That's average intelligence right? Oh wait I forgot....

"DiaNa iS iMmUnE tO LiGtHnInG"