Who hits harder in the MCU Shocker or Danny?

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@superhero24: here I thought you were gonna tell me

I'll say Danny

Danny.

@webinyoureye11:

Oh lol. I just wanted people's opinions. I could do a calc, but I dont want to make debating to easy for everyone lol.

Danny made a shockwave. So him. Moving a bus is impressive though

@webinyoureye11: @normanbates: @assemblesquad: @jayc1324: @superhero24: Ostensibly, Danny's full power chi shot looks like it packs more punch, but Shocker's feats of flipping a bus several times(3-4) and spinning one 360 degrees are actually more impressive. I'm not a mathematician but I think Shocker hits harder. I don't think Danny could replicate Shocker's feats, but I do think Shocker's punch could replicate Danny's.

The bus was also a grade c school bus. They weigh between 11 - 15 tons IIRC.

@cramandman: I don't know man, it's hard to tell. I feel like any hit that makes a shockwave could move a bus.

I think Danny'd be able to move the bus with his punch for sure, I just don't think he'd be able to spin it 360 degrees or his even more impressive feat of flipping 3-4 times. The thing weighs what 10-15 tons. He hasn't done anything on this level yet.

Danny´s punch made huge shockwaves that sent people flying backwards several feet, I think he punches harder, though I´d say it´s still really close.

All out, Danny Rand.

Shocker's punches don't make shockwaves that send a dozen people flying back (while also acting against Gao's chi push it seemed) or blow out the windows of the entire floor of a skyscraper.

@superhero24: @rogueshadow: @thor_parker82: I agree about the shockwave but I think that may have to do with the nature of their powers, rather than the force of the impact. Danny's power spreads out in a shockwave as we saw in Defenders, he doesn't even need to make contact with his enemies in order to push them with the shockwave. Shocker's power is more focused. At the end of the day, Shocker moved more weight 10-15 tons further with his shot than Danny.

@cramandman: I see your point, either way, I think it´s very close, whoever hits harder, the gap isn´t too large.

I can agree with this. The gap is close.

@thor_parker82: Either one would definitely kill a normal human if they hit them full force, though I'm pretty sure Spidey can take IF's shots the way he took Shocker's.

Ultimately, I think it's the difference between Danny knocking a bus over vs Shocker knocking it over 3-4 times.

Danny. That floor busting at the end of Iron Fist was more powerful than anything Shocker could do.

The gap is really close could be stated either way.

The Iron Fist is more like a bomb going off, whereas the shocker glove is just an advanced version of Crossbones' high powered piston-gauntlet. I don't see either replicating each other's respective best feats, so IMO they are too close to call for now. Until someone breaks it down for us

Shocker.

Danny.

A punch like that won't move the bus but it would devastate it.

I feel like the punches put out energy differently. Danny can focus it in a strike and also make an aoe. Shocker hits like a sh*t brick House but focused in one point.

Shocker eee

Couldn't Danny's shockwaves just be chi being released and not actual impact force?

Danny's looks more impressive because they cause shockwaves. But he has no feat close to causally flipping and toppling 11-15 ton busses over.

@webinyoureye11has a good point. Both punches are very different in effect, so it's kind of like comparing apples to oranges.

Shocker