I think it's inconsistent how Surtur moved there, cus when Hulk was hanging in his crown his punches were just basically nothing.
Well they caused some visible cracking in his skull, more than what Thor with multiple lightning hits and even one stated as "full power" accomplished. Personally I think damaging Surtur is above shifting him.
I think it's inconsistent how Surtur moved there, cus when Hulk was hanging in his crown his punches were just basically nothing.
Well they caused some visible cracking in his skull, more than what Thor with multiple lightning hits and even one stated as "full power" accomplished. Personally I think damaging Surtur is above shifting him.
@hydratedfubuki6: He's an extreme MCU fanboy, someone could show him proof about anything else and he would deny, because of his obsession regarding Marvel.
Kinda the typical Slowdinson fanatic, trash fans for a garbage character.
I think it's inconsistent how Surtur moved there, cus when Hulk was hanging in his crown his punches were just basically nothing.
Well they caused some visible cracking in his skull, more than what Thor with multiple lightning hits and even one stated as "full power" accomplished. Personally I think damaging Surtur is above shifting him.
I don't see visible cracks.
See the broken spots? The sound effects in the video also sound like he's fracturing it too.
I think it's inconsistent how Surtur moved there, cus when Hulk was hanging in his crown his punches were just basically nothing.
Well they caused some visible cracking in his skull, more than what Thor with multiple lightning hits and even one stated as "full power" accomplished. Personally I think damaging Surtur is above shifting him.
I don't see visible cracks.
The sound effects in the video also sound like he's fracturing it too.
The horn isn't fracturing, he's just taking off the "black scale" or the oxidized layer of it.
I think it's inconsistent how Surtur moved there, cus when Hulk was hanging in his crown his punches were just basically nothing.
Well they caused some visible cracking in his skull, more than what Thor with multiple lightning hits and even one stated as "full power" accomplished. Personally I think damaging Surtur is above shifting him.
I don't see visible cracks.
The sound effects in the video also sound like he's fracturing it too.
The horn isn't fracturing, he's just taking off the "black scale" or the oxidized layer of it.
If so, Thor couldn't even manage to do that, also I'm sure that's the color of all of Surtur's bones
I think it's inconsistent how Surtur moved there, cus when Hulk was hanging in his crown his punches were just basically nothing.
Well they caused some visible cracking in his skull, more than what Thor with multiple lightning hits and even one stated as "full power" accomplished. Personally I think damaging Surtur is above shifting him.
I don't see visible cracks.
The sound effects in the video also sound like he's fracturing it too.
The horn isn't fracturing, he's just taking off the "black scale" or the oxidized layer of it.
If so, Thor couldn't even manage to do that, also I'm sure that's the color of all of Surtur's bones
Can't be, the fragments would've still be red hot. Also, after that, Surtur's horn appears to be the same as earlier.
@gangorca: true but it’s still impressive, plus there is hulk one shotting a leveaithan that can no sell Tony’s petawatt lasers
The 200 petawatt laser thing is imo an outlier, especially for phase 1 Tony. Hulk stopping the Leviathan is impressive regardless since they can fly through buildings without stopping.
200 petawatts is basically a tsar bomba going off everysecond and it's over the surface area of like a quarter. Not only is that way too much energy as the mark 6 only generates 10 Gigawatts (meaning it would take Tony half a year to even charge that attack to last a second), not only is that miles above any energy feats ever displayed by Stark in later and earlier movies, but it makes Tony's usage of the beam straight up defective in later movies.
Why doesn't he cut out the door Zemo is hiding behind? Why does the laser used on the helicarrier fan not cut through all the way? Why create a heat seal for Thor when Tony could probably gather enough energy on his own to bust Sokovia? The quote is from a tie-in comic to Iron Man 2 if I recall.
@gangorca:he probably wasn’t using the arc reactor as the power source for the lasers seeing as he ejects some small metal things after use. Well tonys dad did leave him tech that would and I quote “drawf the nuclear arms race”
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proably because he didn’t want to waste his most powerful weapon plus didn’t Zemo show that vid of Bucky killing his parents pretty quickly, probably because he was regulating the energy seeing as he cuts through the iron suits like butter when he was fighting whiplash. maybe Because it was easier for him to make one for Thor lighting seeing as it would conduct easier
he probably wasn’t using the arc reactor as the power source for the lasers seeing as he ejects some small metal things after use.
It almost certainly has to be the arc reactor. No where else is Tony shown to have possessed petawatt lasers outside of arc reactor technology and the fact that the laser just so happens to be a weapon once Tony builds his new suit and element.
Well tonys dad did leave him tech that would and I quote “drawf the nuclear arms race”
That means nothing to it's power. Nick Fury was also implying the power of the Tesseract since the Arc Reactor was based on the Tesseract.
proably because he didn’t want to waste his most powerful weapon
That doesn't stop him from using it constantly in Age of Ultron or Infinity War or even using it in the very fight with Cap and Bucky. No reason not to use it to capture a highly dangerous criminal.
plus didn’t Zemo show that vid of Bucky killing his parents pretty quickly,
They stood there for over a minute before the video and Tony didn't try anything. It's even implied in the scene Tony would need time to take the door down.
probably because he was regulating the energy seeing as he cuts through the iron suits like butter when he was fighting whiplash.
Those suits don't have any significant durability feats so it's more likely that they are less durable than the fan blades. There's no reason to regulate the beam in the helicarrier scene.
maybe Because it was easier for him to make one for Thor lighting seeing as it would conduct easier
Why though? Thor's lightning would be able to easily bust Sokovia then because of the fact that it scales far above the lasers thanks to Leviathan scaling, yet they BOTH couldn't bust it on their own without the vibranium spire. A casual 200 petawatt laser is simply out of Stark's league, especially for his 2nd movie of all times.
I’m not talking about the power I’m talking about the reasoning as to why he could ever achieve something of that magnitude
in age of ultron he was fighting a robot that was trying to kill litterly everyone, he was fighting an insane super alien that was trying to kill litterly half of the universes population, he was bloodlusted since Bucky kinda killed his mom. These are all much more serious and bigger situation then Zeno.He never got the chance to since he was letting him finish his villian monologue or whatever
agian villain monologue. The only thing that says that is Zeno himself and I don’t think he knows every single thing stark has at his disposal.
said suits were based off some of tony desgins if I remember correctly. Didn’t some of the same fans get blown up by on of Hawkeyes arrows. There probably was seeing as he was cutting over some of the other pieces of the fan and didn’t want to damage it.
pretty sure Thor was weakened thanks to the nords sucking is life force
@hydratedfubuki6: it is because Surtur braced after the first hit.
Also the "damage" isn't visible afterwards because Surtur is incredibly massive compared to Hulk, so hulk's fists will be like needles to Surtur's eyebrows and those cracks will be like the size of mosquito bites. I don't think mosquito bites are usually visible
@gangorca: lasers use pulsating powers. So the "200 petawatt" won't be active for all the 4-5 seconds he uses them, but only a fraction. It just turns on and off repeatedly.
@gangorca: lasers use pulsating powers. So the "200 petawatt" won't be active for all the 4-5 seconds he uses them, but only a fraction. It just turns on and off repeatedly.
He built the arc reactor, which outputs at least 10 GW, only several hours at most before the big climax. Even if he had built the reactor 10 hours before the big fight, he would only be able to use the laser at full power for 1/5500ths of a second, and that assumes ALL of Tony's power goes into the laser and ignoring all of his suits other functions that require energy.
Honestly, there isn't any justifying 200 petawatts as anything other than an outlier, I doubt the writer of that comic actually thought the laser would only be that powerful for so short (hell, I don't even think they know exactly what a petawatt is).
But then again there are still those little cartridges that he ejects after use some I’m still a little edgy on them supposedly being powered by the arc reactor
If Surtur's spooked how is his body weight shifting from the impact? Script says shock of Hulk's punches + impact of his jump makes Surtur take a step back etc
plus Surtur suffered some small scale damage from said punches, "not much damage" per script, but still enough to wank imo
Hulk is basically the size of a wasp to Surtur as Wasps in to us. If a wasp flies towards your face you would do the same exact movement Surtur did. Not because of the impact but because we dont want a wasp in your face. :)
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