Who has the best villains after Batman and Spider-Man?

I vote Superman because of Lex and Brainiac, even though Flash has a colourful rogues gallery too.

Exactly, Smallville Lex is enough.

Either Flash, Superman or The X-Men.

Thor> Spider-Man villains

Flash

I vote for supes, lex luthor, parasite, zod, doomsday, darksied, lobo, silver banshee, and brainac

X men villains.

X-men have the best villains then Batman then ironman.

Superman has a pretty loaded rouges gallery so him.

Every other hero besides the big 3 doesn't have that many great villains. Usually just 1 or 2.

Nah.

Sups ain't got much beyond Brainiac and Lex. I'd say 90% of it is barebones and/or bad.

X-Men villains.

Thor out the list though tbh. Loki, Mangog, Gorr, Hela, Malekith, Enchantress, etc. Actually, Flash has some great villains too, but outside of other speedsters, it's hard to take some of them seriously as threats.

Zod, Doomsday, Bizzaro, Metallo, Cyborg Superman etc are all great villains for me.

From these choices, Flash!

Hot take Superman's rogues are mostly overrated. :P

@professorrespect said:

Hell yeah.

Superman, Thor, and Flash.

Thor has Loki, Gorr.....who else, exactly? Who else is interesting?

The villains of Cosmic Marvel are fantastic, though they don't really belong to any one hero. I've always been a big fan of the Fantastic Four's villains though that's probably because it has so much overlap in the cosmic realm.

@professorrespect said:

Loki, Mangog, Gorr, Hela, Malekith, Enchantress, Dario Agger and several more.

Thor's villains are elite. Most of Spidey villains aren't interesting, just lame.

Hela has no interesting character traits.

Malekith is a boring B-plot character whom to my knowledge is just a budget Loki.

Enchantress is decent, I guess. Better than the Spider-Man roster in terms of characterisation? Nah.

I've never thought much of Spider-Man's rogues gallery. For the most part it's just a bunch of criminals that have some silly science accident and decide dress up like, and name themselves, after an animal, or become a Goblin of some sort. I always thought they were mostly kind of corny to be completely honest. There are some good ones though. Sandman was cool.

X-Men and Batman have the best villains.

Superman's is also kewl with Luthor, Brainiac, Darkseid, Zod, Lobo, Myxzptlk, Bizarro etc. Green Lantern and Flash also have some good ones. I just think DC has overall better villains than Marvel though.

Iron Man's is pretty considerable but under utilized. He has everything from enemies of the corporate world, to alien dragons, to shit like MODOK.

X-Men has some great stuff, but so do the Avengers, FF, and Hulk.

SMH to you OP not including X-Men. They have the most diverse villains in their self contained universe.

Superman.

Other.

The X-Men

X-Men. Magneto.

Superman, though I been really liking Flashes rouge gallery lately, Thawne is a total badass.

@professorrespect: Ulik? Surtur? Malekith?

Based on my own opinion, I'd say Aquaman.

Objectively tho, it's a different case. Aquaman only has Black Manta and Ocean Master as recurring villains, and while I love them, it's not the general consensus. Same goes for Wonder Woman (Cheetah, Circe, Ares), Iron Man (The Mandarin, Iron Monger), Captain America (Red Skull, Zemo, Crossbones) and Hulk (Abomination, Leader). Cool and the gang on their own, but not striking in quality and quantity.

Out of the ones left, I think Thor has the shittiest end of the stick. He has a couple of cool villains and a lot of them at that, but tbh, most are extremely mediocre outside of some of the better stories. Plus, Aaron ruined a lot of Thor villains like Mangog, Malekith etc.

So with Superman, Flash and Green Lantern left I'd say Superman. Not because I think his villains are the best, but because of the lack of originality for the other two. The Flash has like, speedster villains and the Rogues, who are original villains, but they are all he has. Literally every notable Green Lantern villain belongs to a Lantern Corps, which is an original concept on it's own, but I feel like the Corps should have other cool villains not tied to the emotional spectrum.

Superman has a wide variety of villains such as Brainiac, Doomsday, Lex Luthor, General Zod, Parasite, Cyborg Superman etc. I feel like each of them is fleshed out and all of them are different sorts of characters.

All of those are pretty genetic. I guess Surtur has the coolness factor but...anything else worth mentioning? Ulik from me reading him just comes up as a dumb brick. Malekith reads like Loki, basically.

@professorrespect: generic is a meaningless buzzword and even Ulik is more interesting than the animal themed bank robbers

@mrsyg said:

Unfair to be reductive to Flash's villains to Rogues+ speedsters (which isn't true) and then mention Superman when: Doomsday, Cyborg Superman, Bizarro fit the 'anti-superman' category.

What good villains does Flash have that are not Rogues or speedsters?

Also, I wouldn't necessarily put guys like Cyborg Superman in the anti-Superman category, especially since the other two you have there are basically just dumb bricks which Henshaw isn't.

I’d probably say the X-men. Magneto is hard to beat. Add guys like Juggernaut, Oliver Trask, Apocalypse, Mr Sinister etc and it gets my vote. Honestly Magneto probably solos a lot of rogues gallery’s here on his own.

@mrsyg: Gorilla Grodd, Turtle see Flash: year one, Bloodwork, Tornado Twins, Dr Alchemy, Piper, Abra Kadabra, Shade and the goat: Papercut.

Cyborg Superman does fit, Bizarro is designed as inverse Superman and Doomsday being a dumb brick doesn't exactly change anything. If we're continuing this game General Zod is another 😊

Superman and then it's between Flash and Green Lantern.

Don't hate on Spidey's rogues. Every one of them has at least one nigh-perfect story.

Generic refers to no character. Uilk has no character. He's basically just a brute.

"animal themed bank robbers" is a good way to lowball also. I get that your opinion might be based around what's "cool" instead of characterisation, but calling guys like Rhino or Sandman stuff like that doesn't help your case, especially when articles like Flowers for Rhino or Marko's redemption arc recently completely run over any sliver of characterisation most of Thor's rogues have.

Superman or Flash

What good villains do X-Men have?

Magneto says hi.

Half of those have been Rogues at some point, but fair enough. You proved your point. I'm still convinced Superman has the better rogue gallery objectively.

@mrsyg: So Flash's villains aren't good or original because they team up?

No, they are both good and original. My point was that the Rogues would basically be all the Flash has beyond speedsters.

Yeah because the point of the Rogues is all his villains teaming up. It's like simplifying Magneto to just the Brotherhood and making no distinction between him and Toad.

Fair enough