Who has stronger TK - DCEU Ares or MCU Ebony Maw?

Obviously the god that was toying with Wonder Woman.

Ares no contest. Maw might be more precise. Ares is able to manipulate things on the molecular level as well.

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Ares not close. How tf is Maw winning?!

Ares wins but Maw seemed to be more skilled

Raw power: Ares

Skills: Maw

Ares has far more raw power.

Ares obviously

The matter manipulator who ripped out 1,000's of tons of rock out of the ground.

Ares

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Is lifting the mass of land beneath Wonderwoman Ares best TK feat?? (I honestly don't know)

If it is id say Ares and Maw are dam near equatable in raw TK power.

Here Ares lifts said landmass, You can see WW kinda floating above it to the right.

Here is Maw grabbing Black Panther with a huge mass of land, and also holding him self up with a small mass of land; you can see BP and Maw for scale.

@death4bunnies said:

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Is lifting the mass of land beneath Wonderwoman Ares best TK feat?? (I honestly don't know)

If it is id say Ares and Maw are dam near equatable in raw TK power.

Here Ares lifts said landmass, You can see WW kinda floating above it to the right.

Here is Maw grabbing Black Panther with a huge mass of land, and also holding him self up with a small mass of land; you can see BP and Maw for scale.

woow i forgot this feat. Nice job

@fantaman11: Ares is superior

@death4bunnies: From that perspective Ares isn't even half of Maw's size, that thin bridge made from using loose material laying around the battlefield wouldn't even be half as wide as that piece of land Ares ripped from the ground, and that's after the outer edges had already fallen.

It also took Maw several times longer to form, and he looked like he was trying with both hands compared to Ares' casual TK.

@mrtrey:

I can respect that.

@death4bunnies: Maw was twirling dirt around. Not comparable imo

I think thats underselling it a bit, Maw has ripped things from the ground before, and thats what I think he did against BP.

Raw power - Ares

Skill-Maw

These two are closer than I thought

Maw is cool but Ares is clearly stronger.

@death4bunnies: Maw is about 2.1 meters tall, the bridge he's moving is conical, about twice as wide as him at the base and 7 x longer, about 68 meters cubed.

Assuming a bit less than an average rock density (since its loosely bound together), say 2 metric tons per meter cubed, should be 136 metric tons, likely 100+ at minimum.

The reinforced concrete feat is actually better, he had to overcome its tensile strength to rip it from the ground which is vastly more than just lifting its weight.

Maw restrained weakened Thor, Ares restrained pre-awakening WW. Going with Ares just based off hype

Why are you scaling from Maw and not BP? Maw looks to be twice the size of BP do to perspective.

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Just ya thats about what it thought it would be.

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After your post (#17) I think Ares has a edge in raw power.

@death4bunnies: I think restraining (weakened) Thor in IW opening is Maw's best feat, by far. Maw never demonstrated such strength later in any fight though.

@nn5:

Agreed, but much harder to quantify.

@death4bunnies: I know it's hard to quantify. But even if we assume that Thor was so badly beaten that he could use 1/3 of his strength at the time, Maw's TK would be crazy powerful scaling from star forge feat. Plus Maw did it seemingly without much effort.

Also I think Maw's TK logically shouldn't be superior to Thanos' physical strength.

Overall hard to say on what level exactly he is. But I'm quite sure he's comparable to some of MCU high-tiers in lifting strength.

I’m going to say the Maw

Ares by actual feats, not by assumptions

Ares

@death4bunnies:

No I'd say restraining Wonder Woman is an even better feat honestly

And the way he was doing it felt so casual it's pretty damn good.

Ares in every way

Ares in raw power

Maw is much more surgical

Ares didn't really do anything that would suggest more raw power that I recall of. If anything, Ebony has operated on a similar scale much more effortlessly. Though he has proven he can use TK directly on an active, living being so there's that.