Which universe has more memorable and deeper quotes? DCEU or MCU

DCEU. The only Marvel quote I love is Loki's quote to Widow.

I wouldn't say either really has deep, meaningful quotes. If I had to pick I'd say DCEU because of all the "philosophy" in Batman v Superman (ie he can't be all good if he is all powerful, or whatever that line was).

DCEU is way more quotable than the MCU, but the Nolan Trilogy stomps both universes combined times 100 in quotability.

No quotes really stick out at all from either universe tbph. Just a few decent quotes here and there that aren't really even worth mentioning. Things like 'we have a Hulk' or 'Martha' or 'gotta break a few eggs'. lol

Nolan Trilogy >>> Fox > dceu > mcu in quotability

DCEU has tried its hand at meaningful quotes with Lex and Joker, but both sucked. There was some pretty fantastic things stated in Doctor Strange.

@elijah_c_washington: "Dormammu I have come to bargain" is the one that sticks out.

Cant remember anything else

"Martha" solos

@ready_4_madness:

"You will give the people of Earth an ideal to strive towards. They will race behind you, they will stumble, they will fall. But in time, they will join you in the sun, Kal. In time, you will help them accomplish wonders."

I was like, damn, that's powerful.

"WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME"

Martha for all the wrong reasons

"I can do this all day." Simple, yet meaningful and deep given the context.

No one is going to mention the speech at the end of IM3?

@ready_4_madness: Yep!

@saberscar223: in case you couldn't tell, everyone has resorted to just bashing the other side instead of contributing to their own. Comic people can't be reasonable or like both. That's a bad time expecting that around these parts lol

I see A LOT more people quote MCU films ( not counting MARTHA related quotes).

@wastelandman: um....where?

"That's how it starts, sir. The fever, the rage, the feeling of powerlessness that turns good men... cruel."

"You're not brave. Men are brave."

"You will give the people an ideal to strive towards. They will race behind you, they will stumble, they will fall. But in time, they will join you in the sun, Kal. In time, you will help them accomplish wonders."

"So we sum kinda suisa skwaaaad?"

vs.

"Dance off, bro. You and me!"

No contest, to be honest

I get why the DCEU is winning the poll:

• there's only three existing films, so we can focus more on the individual aspects of each
• and since pacing, editing, character and structure in all three films has been rocky, it's easy to focus on the better aspects of the films that DO work.
• Since the MCU films have lighter colour palettes and more humour, people ignore the solid dialogue.

That said, I think that although the DCEU has some cool dialogue (at least MoS and BvS), the MCU has a lot of good dialogue that goes unnoticed.

For example:

The First Avenger:

Abraham Erskine's entire dialogue with Steve Rogers in The First Avenger - "Whatever happens tomorrow you must promise me one thing. That you will stay who you are. Not a perfect soldier, but a good man."

"I don't want to kill anyone. I don't like bullies; I don't care where they're from."

Guardians of The Galaxy:

"I have lived most my life surrounded by my enemies. I would be grateful to die among my friends."

Civil War:

"Look when you can do the things that I can, but you don't. And then the bad things happen, they happen because of you."

This exchange between Natasha and Steve:

"There's plenty of room on the jet. Just because it's the path of least resistance doesn't mean it's the wrong path. Staying together is more important that how we stay together."

"What are we giving up to do it?"

To name a few :)

@DammeFavour:

Um.... from my own experiences? Seriously, where else would it be.

MCU stomps. The Avengers movie alone has more memorable lines than the whole DCEU so far.

People are voting DCEU because it's "deeper" they only regurgitate the same 3 quotes we've already seen

Cap might be able to carry the MCU although considering we're comparing like 16 films to 3 that's still pretty sad.

Does anyone remember a really great Thor quote from one of the four films he's been in so far?

"There will never be a wiser king than you. Or a better father."

BvS and MoS alone has better quotes than whole of MCU movies combined.

MCU. Remember Cap's speech about freedom?

Peggy Carter solos.

"Compromise where you can. Where you can't, don't. Even if everyone is telling you that something wrong is something right. Even if the whole world is telling you to move, it is your duty to plant yourself like a tree, look them in the eye, and say 'No, you move'.

@rbt: Apart from Jor-El, what other quotes did you enjoy from those movies?

@theamazingspidey: I mean it's not a bad quote on it's own but considering how he raised Loki I think the words are a bit hollow.

Lmao, that's unfair. I can handpick bad quotes from any franchise.

The problem is that most MCU quotes is milquetoast drivel that was written as an afterthought that one forgets in 5 seconds, eg. stuff like this

"Look when you can do the things that I can, but you don't. And then the bad things happen, they happen because of you."

Nothing about that is interesting or thoughtful. The "my life sucked but now I'll die with my buddies" from GoTG has also been around for ages, and doesn't really convey all that much. DCEU and Nolanverse aren't much higher but most of the dialogue there has more weight to it, mostly because the screenwriters for MoS, BvS and the whole Dark Knight series were left alone to do their thing without much studio interference

Absolute cinema

Captain America's movies alone take this for me.

"Abraham Erskine: Whatever happens tomorrow you must promise me one thing. That you will stay who you are. Not a perfect soldier, but a good man." - The First Avenger.

"Red Skull: Arrogance may not be a uniquely American trait, but I must say, you do it better than anyone. But there are limits to what even you can do, Captain, or did Erskine tell you otherwise?

Steve Rogers: He told me you were insane.

Red Skull: Ah. He resented my genius and tried to deny me what was rightfully mine, but he gave you everything. So, what made you so special?

Steve Rogers: Nothing. I'm just a kid from Brooklyn."

"Steve Rogers: You ready to follow Captain America into the jaws of death?

James 'Bucky' Barnes: Hell, no! The little guy from Brooklyn who was too dumb not to run away from a fight. I'm following him."

"they shot Nick Fury. And it won't end there. If you launch those helicarriers today, HYDRA will be able to kill anyone that stands in their way. Unless we stop them. I know I'm asking a lot. But the price of freedom is high. It always has been. And it's a price I'm willing to pay. And if I'm the only one, then so be it. But I'm willing to bet I'm not."

@don_higashikata:

BvS and the whole Dark Knight series were left alone to do their thing without much studio interference

WB lets their screenwriters do their things without much studio interference? Like giving David Ayer 6 weeks to write a script?

I'm interested in hearing which DCEU quotes you think are superior to the "afterthought" quotes in the MCU. I think Lex's quotes in BvS were pretty cool, but nothing else comes to mind.

Neither studios break new ground with their dialogue. "You will give the people of earth an ideal to strive towards" isn't exactly inventive either.

The fact that MoS and BvS can compete with the whole MCU in quotes department is in itself a huge feat for DCEU. It doesn't mean MCU has bad quotes or lesser. Captain America series and Cap himself in the Avengers movies has delivered quite a few beautiful quotes

like 'The price of Freedom is high' quote from WS.

'Ultron thinks we're monsters ' quote by cap in AoU just before the final fight. etc. But MCU is mostly full of quips. that takes away the seriousness and the effect of the quotes.

DCEU on the other hand is dark gritty serious and along with some fantastic quotes, has a phenomenal background score which amplifiers the effect of the quotes. Jor-El, Batman, Alfred, Luthor, Even Superman all deliver some fantastic lines. Although it's really tough to choose, my personal favorite will always be the 'That's how it starts, The fever, the rage, the feeling of powerlessness' quote by Alfred.

"What if a child dreamed of becoming something other than what society had intended? What if a child aspired to something greater?" Jorel

"You just have to decide what kind of man you want to be Clark, because whoever that man is, good character or bad, it's gonna change the world." Jonathan Kent

The whole freaking dialog from Zod during his final battle was incredible..Even my dad said, "You can't get that type if speech from marvel." And his favorite movie is avengers

"We know better now that Devils don't come from hell beneath us, they come from the sky." LEX

"Tell me, Do you bleed? You will! Batman.. Probably the most under rated quote.

"Stay down, if I wanted it you'll be dead already!." Superman

"Nobody cares about Clark Kent taking on the Batman." Parry

"If man won't kill God, the Devil will do it!." Lex

"I will find him." Zod

"Is she with you? I thought she was with you." ..Batman superman

"You're not brave! Men are brave." Batman

"I figured out way back, if God is all powerful He cannot be all good. And if he is all good, then he cannot be all powerful. And neither can you be." Lex

"A good death is its own reward." Faora

"The greatest Gladiator match in the history of the world. God vs Man, Day vs Night.. the Son of Krypton vs Bat of Gotham." Lex

"Wow that's a good grip! You should not pick a fight with this person." Lex

"I'm not asking bruh! I live underground. Y'all just tourist." Killer croc

"I'm not going to kill ya! I'm just going to hurt cha.. really..really bad." Joker

@transformaa:

"A good death is its own reward." Faora

Thank you for reminding me of that! Faora was the MVP of that fight.

Damn, I love like, 70% of that movie.

Note I excluded Suicide Squad from my list, they screwed the pooch there big time. No wonder the movie turned out awful. Gives hope that they won't stick their noses in again like that.

I'd say that in BvS and MoS Snyder gives more resonance and meaning to dialogue. It's not just "here is the designated quiet moment, say something with a serious face so we can get back to quipping and bad fight scenes". Like Clark talking to his father about whether he is responsible for the safety of those around him, and we see his struggle and eventual acceptance of that responsibility as he grows through the movie. When Erskine tells Cap to keep being good it doesn't affect much, as Cap was good before it and stays good after. Not to say it's bad or anything, it's just not very important. You can skip it without significant change to the plot.

I know, though it does reflect on the overall narrative and the character arc.

@theamazingspidey: haha, that's the most backhanded compliment I've ever heard! At first you think, " he really liked it!" Then it's more like "...wait a minute...."

DCEU

Honestly DCEU

MOS's Villains had great ones

BVS Lex Luthor's were pretty good.

Suicide Squad....Nah maybe one

@don_higashikata:

Note I excluded Suicide Squad from my list, they screwed the pooch there big time. No wonder the movie turned out awful. Gives hope that they won't stick their noses in again like that.

Same. 6 weeks for any movie, much less a big budget ensemble film, is way too little.

Like Clark talking to his father about whether he is responsible for the safety of those around him, and we see his struggle and eventual acceptance of that responsibility as he grows through the movie.

Can't you also say "Clark is saving people before it, and saves people after it" about this quote as well?

When Erskine tells Cap to keep being good it doesn't affect much, as Cap was good before it and stays good after. Not to say it's bad or anything, it's just not very important.

It's important to understanding Cap's character. The point is that Erskine chose Steve for the super-soldier experiment specifically because as a person with such little power in his entire life, Steve will understand the value of his newfound power and will not about it. That scene is important in understanding why Cap remains true to his convictions.