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Posted by cfrehse (2902 posts) - - Show Bio

Alright who do you think would be the worst Villain if they went bad? Think about resources, powers, intelligence, and potential of this person. Lets say this persons only goal is to conquer the world and they will do it by any means necessary. They are not blood lusted but they will eliminate someone if they have too. How much damage do you think this person could do. I personally think Mr. Fantastic or Tony Stark would be the worst because of their intelligence and resources. I think it would take a lot of people to take them down. Pretty much the full resources of shield and the avengers to do so. The avengers or shield would have to really get a plan together to take either of them down. What do you guys think?

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#1 Posted by Nightwing4 (395 posts) - - Show Bio

The big 4, Reed Richards, Hank Pym, Tony Stark and Bruce Banner come to mind. Any of them could kill millions if they wanted.

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#2 Edited by Havenless (2907 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought you meant worst as in 'least potential', like worst ice cream flavor or worst basketball player.

But in the manner you're speaking, I'd say we've already seen Stark and Reed as a villain, that is Dr. Doom. But they've shot Hulk into outerspace, and he still came back. Wolverine has impaled him repeatedly, and he wouldn't die. The Maestro storyline basically depicts that he can survive anything. He's fought the entire Marvel Earth and won, imagine if he was looking to kill everyone. Attempting to kill him would just make him angrier. We'd be screwed.

Also, Silver Surfer. If he was evil and had a vendetta against the Earth, there wouldn't be a lot we could do. He'd probably just lead Galactus over to eat it... not a lot of characters have a connection like that.

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#3 Posted by the_stegman (40140 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor

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#4 Posted by judasnixon (12663 posts) - - Show Bio

Kitty Pryde Trained by Wolverine, Master Ninja, Genius Intelligence, she can destroy any tech just by phasing threw it, can't lay a finger on her, and she has a purple dragon......

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#5 Posted by Timandm (3393 posts) - - Show Bio

Tony Stark...  We got a glimpse of what he's capable of during Civil War.   He showed that he didn't care about breaking the law to do what he thought needed to be done.  He showed that he was willing to lock people away in prison forever, without a trial, without a day in court, to accomplish his goal.    He took away She-Hulk's powers only hours after sleeping with her....  He had Peter Parker hunted down and nearly killed because Peter moved out of Avengers tower.. Just because Peter moved out...  Imagine what Stark would have done if Peter had actually broken a law...   He'd do whatever he wanted and he IS capable....  
 
He'd be worst...

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#6 Posted by cfrehse (2902 posts) - - Show Bio

Nice choices and thanks. I changed it to Most dangerous

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#7 Posted by Timandm (3393 posts) - - Show Bio
@Havenless said:

I thought you meant worst as in 'least potential', like worst ice cream flavor or worst basketball player.

But in the manner you're speaking, I'd say we've already seen Stark and Reed as a villain, that is Dr. Doom. But they've shot Hulk into outerspace, and he still came back. Wolverine has impaled him repeatedly, and he wouldn't die. The Maestro storyline basically depicts that he can survive anything. He's fought the entire Marvel Earth and won, imagine if he was looking to kill everyone. Attempting to kill him would just make him angrier. We'd be screwed.

Also, Silver Surfer. If he was evil and had a vendetta against the Earth, there wouldn't be a lot we could do. He'd probably just lead Galactus over to eat it... not a lot of characters have a connection like that.

This is good!  We HAVE seen what Stark and Reed can do as villains.
The surfer would be interesting, but he can no longer get Galactus to ear the earth.  Galactus works for Franklin Richards now...  Still, the idea of a villain Silver Surfer is a good one!
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#8 Posted by KnightRise (4811 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nightwing4 said:

The big 4, Reed Richards, Hank Pym, Tony Stark and Bruce Banner come to mind. Any of them could kill millions if they wanted.

You mean billions. Together, they could do anything.

Adorable caption aside, is the any other answer?

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#9 Posted by judasnixon (12663 posts) - - Show Bio

Rogue, Over time she could be the most dangerous character ever. Each time she kills a hero she would gain their power. If she took out Thor and Reed Richards we are all pretty much screwed.....

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#10 Posted by Blood1991 (8115 posts) - - Show Bio

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Thor

Proved that in Uncanny Avengers.... Actually Wanda would make quite the bad ass villaness these days.

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#11 Posted by the_stegman (40140 posts) - - Show Bio
@judasnixon said:
Rogue, Over time she could be the most dangerous character ever. Each time she kills a hero she would gain their power. If she took out Thor and Reed Richards we are all pretty much screwed.....
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She'd be like the Sylar of the Marvel Universe.
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#12 Posted by Blood1991 (8115 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Stegman said:

@judasnixon said:
Rogue, Over time she could be the most dangerous character ever. Each time she kills a hero she would gain their power. If she took out Thor and Reed Richards we are all pretty much screwed.....
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She'd be like the Sylar of the Marvel Universe.

Could she absorb Thor's abilities?

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#13 Posted by spidermanandsuperman (320 posts) - - Show Bio

silver surfer

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#14 Posted by joshmightbe (27562 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer

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#15 Posted by the_stegman (40140 posts) - - Show Bio
@Blood1991 said:

@The Stegman said:

@judasnixon said:
Rogue, Over time she could be the most dangerous character ever. Each time she kills a hero she would gain their power. If she took out Thor and Reed Richards we are all pretty much screwed.....
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She'd be like the Sylar of the Marvel Universe.

Could she absorb Thor's abilities?

His physical attributes, most likely. 
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#16 Posted by joshmightbe (27562 posts) - - Show Bio

@Blood1991 said:

@The Stegman said:

@judasnixon said:
Rogue, Over time she could be the most dangerous character ever. Each time she kills a hero she would gain their power. If she took out Thor and Reed Richards we are all pretty much screwed.....
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She'd be like the Sylar of the Marvel Universe.

Could she absorb Thor's abilities?

Can and has

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#17 Posted by Blood1991 (8115 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe said:

@Blood1991 said:

@The Stegman said:

@judasnixon said:
Rogue, Over time she could be the most dangerous character ever. Each time she kills a hero she would gain their power. If she took out Thor and Reed Richards we are all pretty much screwed.....
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She'd be like the Sylar of the Marvel Universe.

Could she absorb Thor's abilities?

Can and has

Really? I don't remember seeing this. I thought she wouldn't be able to absorb from magicy types. Spellcasters sure she could gain their knowledge, but actual mystical power that's new to me.

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#18 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4674 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nightwing4 said:

The big 4, Reed Richards, Hank Pym, Tony Stark and Bruce Banner come to mind. Any of them could kill millions if they wanted.

You hit the nail on the head with that, plus 9 out of 10 they know know everything about every hero in the MU, and a have a pre planned counter measure for anyone that is a threat. Dr Strange is a possibility as well!

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#19 Posted by deactivated-5791595859013 (1157 posts) - - Show Bio

Squirrel Girl

I win

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#20 Posted by joshmightbe (27562 posts) - - Show Bio

@Blood1991: It was way back in her first story arc before she joined the X-Men, tho there have been some characters whose powers were too much for her to handle. For instance if she tried to drain post annihilation Surfer she'd probably explode.

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#21 Posted by Yai_Inn (361 posts) - - Show Bio
  1. Obvious answer being the high end reality warpers = Legion, Scarlet Witch and Franklin Richards
  2. Any of the powerful cosmic heroes = Nova Prime, Quasar, Silver Surfer, Black Bolt, and Adam Warlocke
  3. But my personal choice is going to be Dr. Strange. See the thing about any of the science geeks going bad, is there's another one to counter them. But no one stands up to Strange in the magic department. And the havoc he could let lose; open a portal for Dormammu or Shuma Gorath and everyone's screwed.
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#22 Posted by Blood1991 (8115 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe said:

@Blood1991: It was way back in her first story arc before she joined the X-Men, tho there have been some characters whose powers were too much for her to handle. For instance if she tried to drain post annihilation Surfer she'd probably explode.

Now if she absorbed Thor's power then absorbed the Silver Surfer could she handle it? Or at least absorb enough to stick. Hmmm power wise Rogue is full of all kinds of potential.

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#23 Posted by Fuchsia_Nightingale (10191 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Panter(Wakanda backing)

Hulk, WW proved that

Rogue

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#24 Posted by Mega_spidey01 (3080 posts) - - Show Bio

black panther,captain marvel, gambit,cyclops

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#25 Posted by joshmightbe (27562 posts) - - Show Bio

@Blood1991: I think she has a limit, not sure what it is in cannon tho. I know that in the 90s cartoon when she attempted to drain the Juggernaut she lost her s**t and was taken out of the fight.

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#26 Posted by Blood1991 (8115 posts) - - Show Bio

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@Blood1991: I think she has a limit, not sure what it is in cannon tho. I know that in the 90s cartoon when she attempted to drain the Juggernaut she lost her s**t and was taken out of the fight.

Oh yeah she has mental imitations. So if she tried to absorb a super geniuses thoughts it could fry her out and when she absorbed She Hulk she had a hard time containing her rage.

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#27 Posted by lightsout (1886 posts) - - Show Bio

This would be a lot shorter of a thread if it was "which DC hero" :D

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#28 Posted by joshmightbe (27562 posts) - - Show Bio

@Blood1991: The standard theory is that she can't drain the Hulk without damaging herself but that's never been proven as far as I know so it could be wrong.

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#29 Posted by cfrehse (2902 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: didnt she kinda go nuts when she first got Ms. Marvels powers?

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#30 Posted by joshmightbe (27562 posts) - - Show Bio

@Yai_Inn: Adam Warlock has already proven how dangerous he can be as a villain a few times, Even more if you count Magus who is the embodiment of Adam's purged dark side.

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#31 Posted by Blood1991 (8115 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe said:

@Blood1991: The standard theory is that she can't drain the Hulk without damaging herself but that's never been proven as far as I know so it could be wrong.

Hmm fascinating. Maybe we'll see this explored more in Uncanny Avengers.

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#32 Posted by joshmightbe (27562 posts) - - Show Bio

@cfrehse: She seems to go a little nutty every time she drains a heavy hitter

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#33 Posted by judasnixon (12663 posts) - - Show Bio

I like the idea of Multiple Man as a one man Terrorist Organization.....

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#34 Posted by God_Spawn (42998 posts) - - Show Bio

Lovable Norrin Radd gone bad would be scary.

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#35 Posted by Raizex (378 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr. Strange

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#37 Posted by TDK_1997 (18635 posts) - - Show Bio

If Reed or any of the brilliant minds of Marvel goes rogue he will kill a lot of people.

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#38 Posted by Rumble Man (11195 posts) - - Show Bio
Aunt May - that drama
Aunt May - that drama
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#39 Posted by JonSmith (4529 posts) - - Show Bio

You all realize, of course, Black Bolt can just begin screaming at the top of his lungs, at any point, with no warning whatsoever, and NO WAY TO STOP HIM?

He can LITERALLY destroy the entire planet AT ANY MOMENT. Everyone else has build up time: Hulk needs to get that strong, the science dudes need time to build their tech, Doctor Strange has to research or at least cast his spells, they ALL can be theoretically stopped before they go off.

Black Bolt? Every time he takes a BREATH, THAT is his prep time. He requires no signs that anything's wrong or about to happen. If he just starts screaming, everyone's ****ed.

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#40 Posted by poisonfleur (4518 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron Man, Storm, Scarlet Witch and Invisible Woman

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#41 Posted by Veshark (10499 posts) - - Show Bio

Either super-genii like Reed Richards or Tony Stark who can cause millions of casualties with doomsday devices and what-not, or reality-manipulators like Scarlet Witch and Franklin Richards.

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#42 Posted by rico_3088 (517 posts) - - Show Bio

I believe ironman would be. he has the resources and the brain to pull off some crazy stuff. But if someone like Silver surfer pulled a irredeemable and just snapped than it would be over.

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#43 Posted by Emperorb777 (10983 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rumble Man said:

Aunt May - that drama
Aunt May - that drama

Whoa Fella take it easy I don't think the OP meant Omniversal threat.

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#44 Posted by Rumble Man (11195 posts) - - Show Bio

@Immortal777: Considering her 'death' did irreversible changes that the likes of strange and richards cannot undo, she is no laughing matter

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#45 Posted by joshmightbe (27562 posts) - - Show Bio

@JonSmith: Franklin Richards with practice could destroy a universe with a thought.

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#46 Posted by GR2Blackout (2931 posts) - - Show Bio

The One Above All.

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#47 Posted by rolldestroyer (3543 posts) - - Show Bio

@GR2Blackout said:

The One Above All.

not a hero

on topic: i think reed richards (with prep) would be the most dangerous hero turned villain

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#48 Posted by GR2Blackout (2931 posts) - - Show Bio

@rolldestroyer said:

not a hero

If he's not a hero, yet not evil (or we'd all be dead I guess), he'd be neutural. Characters like Wolverine and Hulk, who are technically neutural at times, have been mentioned in this thread.

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#49 Posted by rolldestroyer (3543 posts) - - Show Bio

@GR2Blackout said:

@rolldestroyer said:

not a hero

If he's not a hero, yet not evil (or we'd all be dead I guess), he'd be neutural. Characters like Wolverine and Hulk, who are technically neutural at times, have been mentioned in this thread.

they're anti-heroes.

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#50 Posted by GR2Blackout (2931 posts) - - Show Bio

@rolldestroyer said:

@GR2Blackout said:

@rolldestroyer said:

not a hero

If he's not a hero, yet not evil (or we'd all be dead I guess), he'd be neutural. Characters like Wolverine and Hulk, who are technically neutural at times, have been mentioned in this thread.

they're anti-heroes.

Heroes are good, villains are bad, anti-heroes are neuteral. Do you even know what neuteral means?