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Posted by Eminel (541 posts) 2 months, 3 days ago

Poll: Which character has the best Ultra Instinct ripoff? Spiderman, Luffy or Sasuke? (9 votes)

Ultra Instinct Spiderman 33%
Ultra Instinct Luffy 44%
Ultra Instinct Sasuke 22%
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#1 Posted by BatmanPlusJay (2904 posts) - - Show Bio

How can these characters be a rip off of a mode that became a thing decades after these characters themselves were made? If anything ultra instinct is a knockoff of any type of precog ability in comic or manga, but it's taken to the extreme.

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#2 Posted by Heatforce (5300 posts) - - Show Bio

How can these characters be a rip off of a mode that became a thing decades after these characters themselves were made? If anything ultra instinct is a knockoff of any type of precog ability in comic or manga, but it's taken to the extreme.

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#3 Posted by Gaoron (7382 posts) - - Show Bio

None of it because a) they came first , b) UI doesn't work like a standard precog even if it may look like it

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#4 Posted by SocaJunkie (7652 posts) - - Show Bio

Everything in the list came before UI.

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#5 Posted by The_living_tribunal_24 (5274 posts) - - Show Bio
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#6 Edited by Eminel (541 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_living_tribunal_24: But everything that has something to do with precog is clearly a homage to Ultra Instinct. Obviously the writers "predicted" that Dragon Ball would use this and have used it before the series itself. I learned that with the internet, everytime a character dodge something they say "ultra instinct", they must be right no?

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#7 Posted by KillerQueen (429 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh, boy.

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#8 Posted by JOVIOLMA (4357 posts) - - Show Bio

They used UI before UI even exist.

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#9 Posted by The_living_tribunal_24 (5274 posts) - - Show Bio

@eminel: I... Don't know how to answer.

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#10 Posted by Godren (3281 posts) - - Show Bio

What if I told you UI isn't precog?

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#11 Edited by BatmanPlusJay (2904 posts) - - Show Bio

@eminel: Your response to tribunal is uh...

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#12 Posted by BatmanPlusJay (2904 posts) - - Show Bio

@godren: Which is exactly why it's a ripoff. It's everything precog is but without precog. Someone's body moving on its own? Really? Essentially, his body is reacting to shit he himself can't react to, that's some "cinnamon toast puffs" level of rip off.

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#13 Edited by thatduderox (946 posts) - - Show Bio

Ultra Instinct was created years after each of these characters got their pre cog ability. If anything, it's the other way around.

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#14 Posted by StormShadow_X (15613 posts) - - Show Bio

Ultra Instinct is a rip off of kenshiros final move

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#15 Posted by MetalJimmor (5748 posts) - - Show Bio

Ultra Instinct is a rip off of real life. It's called muscle memory.

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#16 Edited by KanyeCosby (6300 posts) - - Show Bio

Can’t tell if this is a troll or stupid thread

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#17 Posted by Kirkseven (1857 posts) - - Show Bio

Well.... this is comicvine.

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#18 Posted by Godren (3281 posts) - - Show Bio

@batmanplusjay: Except it's instinctive reaction,not prediction at all.

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#19 Posted by BatmanPlusJay (2904 posts) - - Show Bio

@godren: I know it isn't prediction, that's why I said it isn't precog but instead a rip off. It's everything precog is but without the predicting part. Goku is able to dodge things he himself couldn't normally react to, his body is moving on its own and not "thinking of his next move". It's precog with a few rules changed basically.

Precog predicts ahead of time and in some cases forces the character to evade, UI is something that forces the character to evade things that would otherwise be too fast for them.

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#20 Edited by Gokluma (7840 posts) - - Show Bio

Ultra Instinct is basically a plot power up for Goku to fight a random powerful challenger while none of character in this poll has that type of power at all.

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#21 Posted by SuperGoku17 (7220 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokluma said:

Ultra Instinct is basically a plot power up for Goku to fight a random powerful challenger while none of character in this poll has that type of power at all.

It was foreshadowed and the first time he got UI it made sense but from that point forward yeah it was plot but then again I was too busy marking out everytime it came out lol.

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#22 Posted by Gokluma (7840 posts) - - Show Bio

@supergoku17: XD yup but whole white hair thing just caught me off guard and i just don't see Spiderman,Sasuke & Luffy doing that.

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#23 Posted by JohnCena69swag (3602 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderman.

Also yeah UI came later than these the idea of teaching the body to react independently from the mind has been around a long time so I'm gonna go with that for the purpose of the thread.

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#24 Edited by SuperGoku17 (7220 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokluma said:

@supergoku17: XD yup but whole white hair thing just caught me off guard and i just don't see Spiderman,Sasuke & Luffy doing that.

Yeah and I wonder why his shirt burned off but not his pants by logic the heat should have burned away all his clothes thats one thing i found weird.Yeah none of them are doing that.

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#25 Edited by SuperGoku17 (7220 posts) - - Show Bio

@johncena69swag said:

Spiderman.

Also yeah UI came later than these the idea of teaching the body to react independently from the mind has been around a long time so I'm gonna go with that for the purpose of the thread.

Accept spiderman has people who cant be detected by it and you just have to be faster to make it pointless.

And he can choose to ignore it while you cang with UI.

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#26 Posted by Godren (3281 posts) - - Show Bio

@godren: I know it isn't prediction, that's why I said it isn't precog but instead a rip off. It's everything precog is but without the predicting part. Goku is able to dodge things he himself couldn't normally react to, his body is moving on its own and not "thinking of his next move". It's precog with a few rules changed basically.

Precog predicts ahead of time and in some cases forces the character to evade, UI is something that forces the character to evade things that would otherwise be too fast for them.

This legit makes no sense dude lol,if it's precog with different rules then it's not precog at all.

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#27 Edited by Gokluma (7840 posts) - - Show Bio

@supergoku17: Maybe from weird looking aura is burning it expect for goku's powerful pants and i'm going with Luffy & Sasuke for more cooler abilities compared to Spidey

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#28 Posted by SeaGod (4345 posts) - - Show Bio

nice troll

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#29 Posted by xMangog__Beastx (3789 posts) - - Show Bio

How can these characters be a rip off of a mode that became a thing decades after these characters themselves were made? If anything ultra instinct is a knockoff of any type of precog ability in comic or manga, but it's taken to the extreme.

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#30 Posted by ITouchedTheBoat (3230 posts) - - Show Bio

@joviolma said:

They used UI before UI even exist.

that's a new level of plagiarism LOL

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#31 Posted by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (17515 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku.

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#32 Posted by SuperGoku17 (7220 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokluma said:

@supergoku17: Maybe from weird looking aura is burning it expect for goku's powerful pants and i'm going with Luffy & Sasuke for more cooler abilities compared to Spidey

Emo boy and anime mr fantastic.

MUI generates a lot of heat so by logic goku shouldnt of had clothes on.

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#33 Posted by Gokluma (7840 posts) - - Show Bio

@supergoku17: Yup that's right and Dragon ball is always confusing in terms of logic

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#34 Edited by deactivated-5bd0d99b6c6f7 (1676 posts) - - Show Bio

How can these characters be a rip off of a mode that became a thing decades after these characters themselves were made? If anything ultra instinct is a knockoff of any type of precog ability in comic or manga, but it's taken to the extreme.

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#35 Posted by BatmanPlusJay (2904 posts) - - Show Bio

@godren: I never said it was precog. I said it's a rip off. Do you know what a rip off is?

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#36 Posted by SuperGoku17 (7220 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokluma said:

@supergoku17: Yup that's right and Dragon ball is always confusing in terms of logic

Yes it has.

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#37 Posted by Godren (3281 posts) - - Show Bio

@batmanplusjay: A fraud or swindle, especially something that is grossly overpriced.

This is like when a person kills someone with a sword and the other guy calls it death manipulation lmao.

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#38 Posted by great_black_star (3305 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol UI is actually rip off of Rock Lee's muscle memory movement where his muscles react on its own even when he is sleeping.

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#39 Posted by SeaGod (4345 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol UI is actually rip off of Rock Lee's muscle memory movement where his muscles react on its own even when he is sleeping.

Actually UI is a ripoff of a real life martial arts principle called Mushin.

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#40 Posted by EmpressOfDread (11963 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokluma: I don't think UI is just a plot boost for Goku, they were teasing it before and the concept was introduced in early DBS. But yeah, loads of character have such muscle memory based movements.

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#41 Edited by blackknighting (406 posts) - - Show Bio

@eminel:

By any change did you watch a youtube video about that.

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#42 Edited by Gokluma (7840 posts) - - Show Bio

@empressofdread: Yup but still way too powerful and different compared to Spiderman,Sasuke and Luffy.

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#43 Edited by Eminel (541 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackknighting: This opened my eyes. Ultra Instinct is timeless!

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#44 Posted by BatmanPlusJay (2904 posts) - - Show Bio

@godren: A fraud. If Goku's UI was replaced with precog instead he'd be doing the exact same things he is doing now in MUI. Reacting to things he normally can't by either instinct or prediction is the whole point of UI and precog. Precog came waaaay before UI, and all UI is is precog with a few rules changed.

They both achieve the same things but they just go about it differently, because UI is a ripoff of precog.

This is like having a box of cinnamon toast crunch, and a box of cinnamon toast puffs. Clearly one is a ripoff of the other.

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#45 Posted by BruceRogers (16723 posts) - - Show Bio

Huh, I was taught a different meaning of the word ripoff.

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#46 Posted by seastone98 (4405 posts) - - Show Bio

Bruh spidey sense was out 4 like 60+yrs if anything ultra instinct is a rip off of it not the other way around get yo facts straight dawg

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#47 Posted by DanielDaRipper (5100 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh my baby Jesus his reasoning for why their abilities are rip offs of UL is just..... Challenged.

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#48 Posted by LDM (5354 posts) - - Show Bio

Also, since when did Sasuke has precog/Ultra Instinct like ability?