Which character from the MCU is closest to DCEUSuperman in strength?

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Poll: Which character from the MCU is closest to DCEUSuperman in strength? (59 votes)

Thor 14%
Hulk 5%
Thanos 14%
Captain Marvel 32%
War Machine 0%
They're ants compared to him, he no diffs all of them 25%
Clark is laughably below all of them 5%
All of them (?) 5%

Who is closest to him, not outright stronger

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Thor by feats, Thanos's strength is via scaling. EG Hulk does have that strength feat tho.

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#2  Edited By Juicers

If you don't consider ring feat an outlier; Thor, Thanos and pre-IW Hulk are equal or greater. Thor is the closest

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They're ants compared to him, he no diffs all of them

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#4  Edited By Richubs

He'd no diff all of them but closest is Carol.

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All of them better than him, supers only advantage is his speed.

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Carol, Thor and Thanos are stronger so it's gotta be Hulk.

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Thanos is probably the strongest ant.

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The ring feat is just better than any strength feat we’ve seen in the DCEU. It’s kind of weird and inconsistent, but taking all feats at face value, the rings was just a better feat.

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@the_hajduk: Breaking ice is still impressive to you wankers?

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@epicyon: Do you think ice is weak or something?

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#11  Edited By Cull_Obsidians
@bbironman said:

All of them better than him, supers only advantage is his speed.

Cool, CCthor the biased MCU fanboy who can’t handle the fact Superman stomps Foddernos and is stronger. You are a bad debater and somebody who makes threads like “let’s equalize all Superman advantage and make him stand still for Foddernos to win” so now War Machine and Hulk are above Superman? you’re funny as hell mate.

they still can’t react to him or hurt him besides your trash arguments.

@rajjarsalt said:

Thor by feats, Thanos's strength is via scaling. EG Hulk does have that strength feat tho.

@the_hajduk said:

The ring feat is just better than any strength feat we’ve seen in the DCEU. It’s kind of weird and inconsistent, but taking all feats at face value, the rings was just a better feat.

NO. Tectonic plates and world engine > MCU strenght feats.

@whyzoserious said:

Carol, Thor and Thanos are stronger so it's gotta be Hulk.

They aren’t and Superman low diffs them. You are just a biased dude who thinks Superman is boring with your marvel bias And stupid arguments.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/dceu-superman-vs-mcu-captain-marvel-2008460/

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/post-jl-supes-vs-fat-thor-2022117/

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/dceu-superman-vs-mcu-thanos-2018242/

Superman still stomps besides the MCU-fan wank and fanboys and haters.

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Either War Machine or Thanos.

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Scaling wise thanks to the ring feat, Thor, Thanos, Captain Marvel and Hulk should all roughly be in the same tier or above him in strength. I know that's rather bold to say here on CV.

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#14  Edited By HERMES1220

All the high high tiers. Captain Marvel, Thanos, Scarlet Witch.

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@rajjarsalt: Clark seriously struggled to hold up a part of an oil rig and was K.O.ed by it falling over and the following explosion. With his million ton feat, Thor, who is the second weakest character after War Machine, would still be leagues above Clark to such extent that Rhodey would be closer to Clark even if he had no armor on.

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#17  Edited By Cull_Obsidians

@incursion2 said:

Scaling wise thanks to the ring feat, Thor, Thanos, Captain Marvel and Hulk should all roughly be in the same tier or above him in strength. I know that's rather bold to say here on CV.

No they aren’t but you are a fanboy who can’t handle the fact dceu Superman stomps all of them

textonic playes >>>> ring feats and captain marvel doesn scale to That.

Thanos fanboyand MCU wanker

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@rajjarsalt: Clark seriously struggled to hold up a part of an oil rig and was K.O.ed by it falling over and the following explosion. With his million ton feat, Thor, who is the second weakest character after War Machine, would still be leagues above Clark to such extent that Rhodey would be closer to Clark even if he had no armor on.

Wrong and lowball. He lifted a building and war machine best feat is the tank. You’re a baiter and a funny dude

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@cull_obsidians: I actually forgot about the building smh. I'm pretty sure the fact that Clark was K.O.ed by the oil rig falling still stands though.

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The only person here who isnt on that level is War Machine.

Also Cap Marvel / Thanos > Hulk > Thor in sheer strength.

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Obviously War Machine

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@rajjarsalt: Clark seriously struggled to hold up a part of an oil rig and was K.O.ed by it falling over and the following explosion. With his million ton feat, Thor, who is the second weakest character after War Machine, would still be leagues above Clark to such extent that Rhodey would be closer to Clark even if he had no armor on.

Wait a minute, how did Rhodey get so strong to even contend with these people? This doesn't add up.

I think Clark held up an oil derrick, so you're right on part of the rig. But I think his Russian apartment feat surpasses it, being a casual 2k tonner.

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#22  Edited By BladeOfFury  Online

@rajjarsalt: I don't remember if War Machine has any scaling from the high tiers, but he doesn't have to. Even if he can't lift anything at all, it would be 0 tons for Rhodey, 7,500 or 50K tons for Clark?, and 1,000,000 tons for Thor. The difference between Thor's and Clark's strength is much greater than the differecne between Clark's and Rhodey's.

This is assuming that the Oil Rig feat stands and contradicts the WE, however, which is still debatable.

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#23  Edited By RajjarsAlt

@bladeoffury said:

@rajjarsalt: I don't remember if War Machine has any scaling from the high tiers, but he doesn't have to. Even if he can't lift anything at all, it would be 0 tons for Rhodey, 7,500 or 50K tons for Clark?, and 1,000,000 tons for Thor. The difference between Thor's and Clark's strength is much greater than the differecne between Clark's and Rhodey's.

This is assuming that the Oil Rig feat stands and contradicts the WE, however, which is still debatable.

Ah, you got me good.

I'd be able to put down that 7500 estimate to more than a third of itws value, but I have no idea what the 50k ton is applying to.

1 mil for Thor will never get anywhere on a debate - it's best to keep them both at multi-thousand tonners, because the ethos is amped if you cut the Nidavellir feat a factor of several hundred, and because no DCEU debater will actually buy that. Thor has a plethora of easy multi-thousand ton feats (Iron Man armor, chain loops, rings, holding iris during star feat, forcing Thanos to a knee with arm strength.

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Some of them are stronger.

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I guess Thanos, or maybe even Danvers. But it's not close

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@bladeoffury:

Except Jor el

Tells his son

To keep testing his limits

(Skin, muscles , senses)

The daily planet is a Pulitzer prize winning g newspaper who refused to run lois lane alien story without proof. Per the logic of the movie, sup tectonic plate feat(and luther talking about it) blows away mcu

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@rajjarsalt:

How come iron man is strong enough to fight thanos, thor and the hulk but easily gets blown back and stunned by starlords rolling light grenade? The same grenade that didnt even hurt human dr strange .we clearly see superman no sell a far greater force Capitol hill explosion.

Sorry bruh

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@rajjarsalt:

How come iron man is strong enough to fight thanos, thor and the hulk but easily gets blown back and stunned by starlords rolling light grenade? The same grenade that didnt even hurt human dr strange .we clearly see superman no sell a far greater force Capitol hill explosion.

Sorry bruh

Iron Man is a human inside that suit. Thor one-shot him in Endgame. Thor was weakened when fighting him the first time by Odin. He had Hulkbuster against Hulk, and that was a cheapshot when Hulk was calming down.

It's Iron Man's armor that is pretty nice though because of the metal alloy it was made of. AFAIK the calcs suggest the pressure that Thor put indicates low multi-thousand tonner strength by crushing it. It's not about fighting Iron Man.

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#29  Edited By Whofartedloud

@rajjarsalt:

Lies

The Tie in comic states health was affected by dark matter, not strength .thor was ko for hours hitting the mountain and woke up and fought iron man. Whose iron man bull rush was clearly stronger .

Wierd?

Mcu wankers love that tie in comic but discount the bvs tie in comic where lex references sup texronic plate feet. Biased much bruh

Hulk was dazed from a minor toss unto marble by hulbuster while zod no sella being slammed head first into musieam marble

Hulk lost a tooth bruh

And was ko by cement weights.

Sup.can crush diamonds easily . Sup in the mos behind the scenes with synder crushes the oil rig door like tinfoil. It was a tinfoil door.

Hulk fron a higher point but a similar strike knocks ultron and he doesnt even topple one subway car

While superman form a lower point but similar strike knocks namek and derails an entire train

Sorry bruh

You crying now that ww (and by extension superman)is faster than lightening?

Lmao

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@rajjarsalt:

Lies

The Tie in comic states health was affected by dark matter, not strength .thor was ko for hours hitting the mountain and woke up and fought iron man. Whose iron man bull rush was clearly stronger .

Wierd?

Mcu wankers love that tie in comic but discount the bvs tie in comic where lex references sup texronic plate feet. Biased much bruh

Hulk was dazed from a minor toss unto marble by hulbuster while zod no sella being slammed head first into musieam marble

Hulk lost a tooth bruh

And was ko by cement weights.

Sup.can crush diamonds easily . Sup in the mos behind the scenes with synder crushes the oil rig door like tinfoil. It was a tinfoil door.

Hulk fron a higher point but a similar strike knocks ultron and he doesnt even topple one subway car

While superman form a lower point but similar strike knocks namek and derails an entire train

Sorry bruh

You crying now that ww (and by extension superman)is faster than lightening?

Lmao

Why are you using low end feats consistently for the MCU? Independently, WW is not 1/3 the speed of light, if that's what you think FTLning is. She dodged an electricity blast from Ares, which took a full second to hit her. Even if it was a millisecond, I bet it still wouldn't be FTLning.

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@rajjarsalt:

Except

We clearly see now ( ww84) trailer

That she has the combat speed to easily tag and ride lightening with her lasso.

We also know hulk strained and gave up on one arm holding a million gallons of water (antman saved him)

You know who stood up from a planetary gravity beam that continuously displaced million(S) gallons of seawater while weakened ? Not the hulk

You know who lifted and tore off a 7500 lb building (plus the additional weight of people and items (fast enough to keep up with the flash? Not hulk

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@rajjarsalt:

Except

We clearly see now ( ww84) trailer

That she has the combat speed to easily tag and ride lightening with her lasso.

We also know hulk strained and gave up on one arm holding a million gallons of water (antman saved him)

You know who stood up from a planetary gravity beam that continuously displaced million(S) gallons of seawater while weakened ? Not the hulk

You know who lifted and tore off a 7500 lb building (plus the additional weight of people and items (fast enough to keep up with the flash? Not hulk

Beam is not planetary in mass. Planetary beams don't just displace paltry millions of gallons of seawater.

We know Hulk was weakened during that, he performed the snap and lost that arm.

That building isn't 7500 lb, it's a 2000+ ton Russian apartment.

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#33  Edited By Whofartedloud

@rajjarsalt:

Sup was weakened and was thrown into a planetary gravity beam and no selled it. Hulk was ko by a jet Jump.

We know its planetary by

Professor Hamilton

PC computer model

Zod statemeht

That same beam was rocking skyscrapers blocks away.

So the hulk (weakened)needs help (antman) holding a million gallons with one arm ( he clearly gave up to exhaustion)

While superman who was weakened gets up from a gravity beam that displaces far more gallons of water and overpowers it and you can type with logic that you even think mcu compare comparable to sup dceu level strength ?

Come on mate

Face cinematic reality bruh

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Hulk's about equal. Carol, Thor, Thanos are above him.

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Captain marvel is the closest but that's not saying much. Thor is nowhere near, he can't even overpower ironman decisively.

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All of them are above him except War Machine.

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@rajjarsalt: There are two million ton feats: Hulk's performance against Surtur and Thor's rings. How far this stuff in a debate depends on who you're debating.

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@bladeoffury:

Except Jor el

Tells his son

To keep testing his limits

(Skin, muscles , senses)

How does Jor El telling Clark to test his limits change the fact that Clark's strength limit was already established?

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@rajjarsalt: There are two million ton feats: Hulk's performance against Surtur and Thor's rings. How far this stuff in a debate depends on who you're debating.

So True

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@bladeoffury: Hulk’s feat on Surtur isn’t a million ton feat. And it’s completely different from Thor’s feat regardless. Thor’s feat would firmly establish him as the strongest character in the MCU. No characters could scale to it because it would either contradict what we’ve been shown for years or it contradicts EG. Hulk’s feat is bullrushing feat. Not just a strength feat like the rings. Even the confirmed strongest high tier in the MCU’s best feat is far below the rings. And she needed propulsion and amping (I’m assuming she was in her binary form) to accomplish it. The rings are so far above what he’s ever capable of and it’s immediately contradicted the next movie.

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@bladeoffury:

bladeoffury:

When was it established? Cleary we see a progression from a painful gas station explosion to no selling the Capitol hill explosion

Jor el is the internal logic of.the movie

Ans clearly he states to keep testing your limits(skin,muscles ,senses)

That is exactly why sup now has artic breath

We went from a oil rig to shifting a tectonic plate

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@whofartedloud: It was established when Clark was K.O.ed by the oil rig falling over on him. And it wasn't the gas station explosion that hurt Clark, it was Zod kicking him into one.

Again, testing your limits and removing them are two completely different things. Clark can test all he wants, but he can't change his strength by a factor of a trillion.

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@bladeoffury: Wow, movies are inconsistent about power levels, fucking amazing catch. I'm sure you'll bring up all the low-ends of MCU high tiers who fight like barely superhuman street level characters most of the time.

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@hermes1220: Yes, it's a million ton feat, considering that Surtur's head alone weighed multiple millions of tons. There is also Hulk's ability to tank a throw from Surtur, who is a multi-million tonner himself.

It's a different type of strength, but it's not like I can't translate it. Hulk moved millions of tons with a bullrush, Hulkbuster tanked his bullrush just fine, only to get his armor ripped off (now this is lifting strength).

What feats in EG contradict the rings? Personally, I'd be reluctant to use contradictions from earlier movies because the Russo brothers wrote high tiers for the first time in IW, so Thor being a multi-million tonner would be their intent, and their intent is the most recent.

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#46  Edited By BladeOfFury  Online

@mrtrey: Inconsistency is the only way to argue against that, really. It would depend on Clark's other feats (other than WE), and whether those contradict him getting K.Oed by the oil rig.

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@bladeoffury:

Says you

I trust the internal logic of the movie bruh

We clearly see a progression

And the canon bvs character guide states sup can lift thousands of tons , and never tire under the son

Hulk weakened strains to lift a million gallons of water

While sup weakened endures a planetary gravity beam that displaces millions of gallons of water and overcomes it

Sorry bruh

Sup far exceeds mcu

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@whofartedloud: Of course you should trust the internal logic of the movie, I'm just pointing out that the internal logic doesn't suggest what you say it does.

The WE is a great feat indeed, and it would hold only if Clark's other feats contradict the Oil Rig.

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@bladeoffury:

I can easily list multiple scenes in mcu that contradict the hyperbole star , ring and leviathin feet.

The difference

Is Jor el is the I eternal logic of.the movie

Clearly zack put that there for a reason

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@hermes1220: Yes, it's a million ton feat, considering that Surtur's head alone weighed multiple millions of tons. There is also Hulk's ability to tank a throw from Surtur, who is a multi-million tonner himself.

It’s not, it came up to about 300000 tons.
The throw was about 300k as well. A nice feat.

It's a different type of strength, but it's not like I can't translate it. Hulk moved millions of tons with a bullrush, Hulkbuster tanked his bullrush just fine, only to get his armor ripped off (now this is lifting strength).

He still had tons of acceleration aiding him. Thor had known when he broke the ice and also had known when he opened the iris. They aren’t the same at all.

What feats in EG contradict the rings? Personally, I'd be reluctant to use contradictions from earlier movies because the Russo brothers wrote high tiers for the first time in IW, so Thor being a multi-million tonner would be their intent, and their intent is the most recent.

I’m using feats from Professor Hulk (who was confirmed to be no weaker in EG), Captain Marvel, and Wanda. There’s like five to six feats that contradict it. And thats leaving out direct comparisons between Thanos and Thor.
By consistent levels Thor is barely a 20000 tonner. Most high tiers consistently operate between 20-40000 tons by feats. And it’s consistent with the mid tiers who have been able to match them and survive attacks from them. Hulk and Carol’s 100000+ feats make sense. Thor’s do not.

They also wrote them in EG. Which is their intent as well. They clearly don’t mean for Thor to consistently operate at that level. Or any other high tiers for that matter. It’s an amazing scene but writers, nor other in universe feats, nor scaling, nor even guidebooks agree with its validity.

There’s quite a few anti feats even in IW that contradict it.