Nobody. Let the character rest for a while and focus on other X-Men characters in the new continuity. No more pointlessly shoving Wolverine into the film like Apocalypse. That was terrible.
@oldboy93: i see where you're coming from but don't you think he's a bit too clean cut / not gruff enough?
@nicksmi56: i'm not in a rush to see a new one but you know it's inevitable for someone else to take the mantle eventually. and when that time comes who should it be?
@oldboy93: i see where you're coming from but don't you think he's a bit too clean cut / not gruff enough?
@nicksmi56: i'm not in a rush to see a new one but you know it's inevitable for someone else to take the mantle eventually. and when that time comes who should it be?
Jackman was clean cut\not Gruff enough when he started. Scott will become like his father getting older.
Nobody. Let the character rest for a while and focus on other X-Men characters in the new continuity. No more pointlessly shoving Wolverine into the film like Apocalypse. That was terrible.
i'm not a big fan of x-23 but i can see her place as a new addition to the fox universe, but as the new wolverine? no. imo she's too far from the original wolverine to be the replacement of him
@lord_adamantium: why must he be american? surely the best man for the job should be priority?
@oldboy93: i see where you're coming from but don't you think he's a bit too clean cut / not gruff enough?
@nicksmi56: i'm not in a rush to see a new one but you know it's inevitable for someone else to take the mantle eventually. and when that time comes who should it be?
@lord_adamantium: why must he be american? surely the best man for the job should be priority?
Well it is because 80%+ of the casting goes to non-American actors for movies with American IP's. We are literally out-sourcing jobs and that $ leaves our country.
it is also statistically impossible for those 85+% foreign actors to be the best for the job. The US has 3 times the population of the "British isles", Australia, and Canada combined (Most of the CBM actors are from these 3 countries/islands) and acting talent is equal in every country pretty much as are looks so empirically it cannot be about "who is best for the part" from a logical standpoint because then the US would have more actors that were "best for the job" simply from a higher-population standpoint.
The best actors are not always hired for the roles but rather those who are part of a certain elite clique are hired. It is also done because foreign actors are initially cheaper to hire, many CBM's are filmed in Canada and other countries making it cheaper logistically, and because of certain agendas.
Dafne Keen would be my first choice because I would like to see where they take that character. Other than that, I don't want to see a new Wolverine until FOX reboots the whole mutant universe. I'd prefer they focus on other heroes, maybe some we haven't seen before or some that haven't received much screen time.
I think they should give Wolverine a rest for a while to let the one we had be remembered for a while. Wolverine has been in plenty of movies, there are a lot of X-Men they can focus on like Cyclops.
I don't think Wolverine should show up for a long time for a couple reasons
Let the other characters shine without being in the shadow of Wolverine. That was the largest failing of the first 3 X-Men movies in that they were more Wolverine solo movies with everyone else as background characters. First Class and DoFP was a good start. I'd like to see Jean and Scott take center stage in the next movie since it is a Phoenix story.
Hugh Jackman as Wolverine is so iconic at this point, I don't think audiences would accept a new actor for at least a decade. It would be like if Marvel tried to recast Tony Stark; it's not going to work because RDJ is so closely tied to the character.
Realistically 5 foot 3 is a bit too short for a leading actor....So I would prefer an actor between 5 foot 5-5 foot 7 tbh....The short height is everything for the character...Hes supposed to a very runty overly aggressive hairy short guy....I liked Hugh but my biggest complaint was the fact that he was 6 foot 2 and a pretty boy...It dosent matter how good he portrayed Wolverine animalistic nature, the guy was a tall and statuette 6 foot 2...Anybody whose been reading Wolverine for decades knows that his short height give him a chip on his shoulder..It adds to the mystique...Hes named after Wolverines for a reason..Those dudes are these small furry animals with serious addtiude problems and incredble stregth for their size...Whereas Hugh seemed more like A pretty graceful Grey Wolf then a scrungy Wolverine..lol
No one, jackman never played wolverine, wolverine played jackman for most of the world. If Apocalypse was any worth it at least showed us that if you replace loved characters you ruin a good franchise
@lord_adamantium: why must he be american? surely the best man for the job should be priority?
Well it is because 80%+ of the casting goes to non-American actors for movies with American IP's. We are literally out-sourcing jobs and that $ leaves our country.
it is also statistically impossible for those 85+% foreign actors to be the best for the job. The US has 3 times the population of the "British isles", Australia, and Canada combined (Most of the CBM actors are from these 3 countries/islands) and acting talent is equal in every country pretty much as are looks so empirically it cannot be about "who is best for the part" from a logical standpoint because then the US would have more actors that were "best for the job" simply from a higher-population standpoint.
The best actors are not always hired for the roles but rather those who are part of a certain elite clique are hired. It is also done because foreign actors are initially cheaper to hire, many CBM's are filmed in Canada and other countries making it cheaper logistically, and because of certain agendas.
it's true that it's cheap to film in certain countries but i don't think certain countries have cheaper actors, it's all about their prestige / popularity. Michael Fassbender would cost a lot more to hire than some unknown american up and comer. it's all relative.
acting talent isn't necessarily an equal playing field for every country either, some have better drama schools etc. which give an advantage. And even if talent was fully equal the world over that still wouldn't mean the odds are even for where the next wolverine will come from, it's luck of the draw where they find the next guy who resembles him the most.
@lord_adamantium: why must he be american? surely the best man for the job should be priority?
Well it is because 80%+ of the casting goes to non-American actors for movies with American IP's. We are literally out-sourcing jobs and that $ leaves our country.
it is also statistically impossible for those 85+% foreign actors to be the best for the job. The US has 3 times the population of the "British isles", Australia, and Canada combined (Most of the CBM actors are from these 3 countries/islands) and acting talent is equal in every country pretty much as are looks so empirically it cannot be about "who is best for the part" from a logical standpoint because then the US would have more actors that were "best for the job" simply from a higher-population standpoint.
The best actors are not always hired for the roles but rather those who are part of a certain elite clique are hired. It is also done because foreign actors are initially cheaper to hire, many CBM's are filmed in Canada and other countries making it cheaper logistically, and because of certain agendas.
it's true that it's cheap to film in certain countries but i don't think certain countries have cheaper actors, it's all about their prestige / popularity. Michael Fassbender would cost a lot more to hire than some unknown american up and comer. it's all relative.
acting talent isn't necessarily an equal playing field for every country either, some have better drama schools etc. which give an advantage. And even if talent was fully equal the world over that still wouldn't mean the odds are even for where the next wolverine will come from, it's luck of the draw where they find the next guy who resembles him the most.
The operative word you missed is initially. Initially foreign actors are cheaper. Fassbender was cheaper initially but can ask for more now because of his popularity. An up-and-coming foreign actor is cheaper to hire than an up-and-coming American actor. Context is what you failed to infer.
Wrong. People are equally talented acting-wise no matter where they are from. No country has better actors than the others. To pretend that this is the case is ludicrous at best. The odds should be even in that 80% of the cbm actors should not be foreign. There should be a proportionate representation of percentages from each of the four countries/isles I referenced statistically speaking. The reason there is not has nothing to do with luck but rather agenda, active choice, and economics. For the record Hugh was great as Wolverine but neither resembled him, nor was the correct height. Hugh resembles Clint Eastwood. He was chosen because he belonged to a certain elite global entertainment clique and because he was cheaper to hire initially and because of a global agenda.
We will just go back and forth with you either failing to understand the context and logic of my posts or pretending that you don't unless one of us (me) ends this.
I would have to respectfully disagree. His shoulders are much to narrow, even when he gains muscle, and he does not look the part to me (he looks child-like in the face), his head is too big and oblong for his body, and he is a mediocre actor at best in my opinion and is way too cheesy on-camera imo.
I don't want to start a prolonged back-and-forth I am just voicing my opinion and i respect your also I just happen to disagree with it.
@lord_adamantium: why must he be american? surely the best man for the job should be priority?
Well it is because 80%+ of the casting goes to non-American actors for movies with American IP's. We are literally out-sourcing jobs and that $ leaves our country.
it is also statistically impossible for those 85+% foreign actors to be the best for the job. The US has 3 times the population of the "British isles", Australia, and Canada combined (Most of the CBM actors are from these 3 countries/islands) and acting talent is equal in every country pretty much as are looks so empirically it cannot be about "who is best for the part" from a logical standpoint because then the US would have more actors that were "best for the job" simply from a higher-population standpoint.
The best actors are not always hired for the roles but rather those who are part of a certain elite clique are hired. It is also done because foreign actors are initially cheaper to hire, many CBM's are filmed in Canada and other countries making it cheaper logistically, and because of certain agendas.
it's true that it's cheap to film in certain countries but i don't think certain countries have cheaper actors, it's all about their prestige / popularity. Michael Fassbender would cost a lot more to hire than some unknown american up and comer. it's all relative.
acting talent isn't necessarily an equal playing field for every country either, some have better drama schools etc. which give an advantage. And even if talent was fully equal the world over that still wouldn't mean the odds are even for where the next wolverine will come from, it's luck of the draw where they find the next guy who resembles him the most.
The operative word you missed is initially. Initially foreign actors are cheaper. Fassbender was cheaper initially but can ask for more now because of his popularity. An up-and-coming foreign actor is cheaper to hire than an up-and-coming American actor. Context is what you failed to infer.
Wrong. People are equally talented acting-wise no matter where they are from. No country has better actors than the others. To pretend that this is the case is ludicrous at best. The odds should be even in that 80% of the cbm actors should not be foreign. There should be a proportionate representation of percentages from each of the four countries/isles I referenced statistically speaking. The reason there is not has nothing to do with luck but rather agenda, active choice, and economics. For the record Hugh was great as Wolverine but neither resembled him, nor was the correct height. Hugh resembles Clint Eastwood. He was chosen because he belonged to a certain elite global entertainment clique and because he was cheaper to hire initially and because of a global agenda.
We will just go back and forth with you either failing to understand the context and logic of my posts or pretending that you don't unless one of us (me) ends this.
Good luck and goodbye.
chillax, i don't know why you're being so defensive it's only conversation.
i don't know where you got the idea that an american actor with zero experience would be more expensive than an actor from anywhere else with zero experience, but it's not something i think you could prove. actor wages fluctuate so much it's hard to find patterns.
i disagree, i think it's very fair to say that the standard of actors in say usa, britain, australia, canada is going to be far greater than that of north korea or DRC for example, so there's obviously a spectrum.
I think hugh did well as wolverine but i agree he isn't perfect for the role.
@rdclip: i think you're right about jackman being tied to the role like RDJ. but fox has possibly worked round this though by having 2 timelines, patrick steward was also very much prof x, but by having another timeline they were able to introduce another version and phase him out. i know this hasn't applied to logan because he doesn't really age but the fact people are used to having 2 sets of actors could soften the blow for change. i agree it definitely shouldn't happen any time soon
@buttersdaman000: you might be right about that. purely because i can't think of any known people who could do it justice. hardy probably comes closest imo but still far from perfect
@heatblaze123: hugh jackman has retired from the role
I know I'm late to this thread but seeing as Disney has bought the rights to foxes side of marvel I would say my first choice is milo Gibson he is the height of his dad who is quite short he has the gruff look like wolverine. Fair enough he hasn't been in a massive amount of movies but he is a relatively good actor.
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