Where is Hashirama capped at?

I like how it STARTS at a level beyond what he is capable of. LOL

Unknown.

The man's main jutsu is basically kryptonite for Juubi's. And his best and only impressive feats is facing off against said Juubi's.

So basically it's unknown what his true non hax AP is

He is capped at way below island level. Just lol at naruto tards trying to put their verse on the level of Frieza saga DB characters.

^ Lol.

Ot: Continental.

This is the crater he made with his strongest attack:

Scaling from Madara & Hashirama, the depth isn't that tall in all honestly, probably 50-100m give or take. Same for width. I do remember VOTE was long so there is hoping.

It should be noted Hashirama's biggest feats were done with Mokuton constructs. In terms of his own physical stats, he's a glass cannon with no feats tanking something with his body and he's physically weaker than Tsunade/Sakura who are Multi-city Block in striking.

Large Island

Base Hashirama Wood Golemn vs EMS Madara Perfect Susanoo clashing their fist and sword created a shockwave that was at least island lv done with their physicals thus their charged amped attack would be higher...but this isn’t canon

@molt said:

This is the crater he made with his strongest attack:

And the 5 minutes of sarcastic clap goes to Woody. Missed your poor trolling attempt. I thought you were too busy at conceding CaVs here and there, oh well...

What you're showing here is just a tiny portion of the crater that will be called "Valley of the End" . Crater made at the very end of Madara & Hashirama's Battle (reminder that Hashi and Maddy can fight non-stop for a whole day). Time has passed and they were moving their battle around countries.

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The clash between Shinsuusenju and Kyuubi Susanoo happened close to the ocean. And it's funny cuz all the Shinsu and Kyuubi attacks were directed right against each other, taking all the blunt force.

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And c'mon, Woody. Do you really think that's their best DC feat when previously the duo was casually busting and destroying away mountains? And what about the scaling? Tsk Tsk... such low efforts of trolling.

2. Guess this needs to be posted then. During their 2nd fight Madara and Hashi created this immense crater, that was dwarfing dozens of mountain ranges and it's deeper than the height of those mountains. This was made by a single clash between Maddy's PS Sword and Hashi's Mokuton Golem Punch.

in terms of his own physical stats, he's a glass cannon

Acting like the God and Top Tiers of a "certain verse" didn't get severely injured by a small normal rock falling on them, even failing at dodging it... or didn't die or gets almost killed by a sword in the guts... or are mortally afraid of common bullets, that they can't even dodge. Right?

Guys stop falling for Molt's bait lol.

OT: easily in the country region atleast with his thousand hands.

@miriotogata: Oh, ciao Mirio or woodwarrior or TheGuildLove and the many alts you have here.

What you're showing here is just a tiny portion of the crater that will be called "Valley of the End" . Crater made at the very end of Madara & Hashirama's Battle (reminder that Hashi and Maddy can fight non-stop for a whole day). Time has passed and they were moving their battle around countries.

Spreading misinformation as always, huh amico. Madara and Hashirama weren't moving countries, actually. The very map you posted in fact shows where the Valley of the End is located:

VOTE is between the border of Land of Fire and Hidden Sound Village. This is the place where Madara and Hashirama's fight took place. They were not moving countries away.

Now if you see here:

You see the body of water right to that dust smoke made from Hashirama's strongest attack? That's actually a lake or bay, not an ocean like you think.

The highlighted part there is the valley that Hashirama made with Shinsuusenju. Hashirama and Madara fought in that valley later after Kurama was put to sleep, hence this panel:

And c'mon, Woody. Do you really think that's their best DC feat when previously the duo was casually busting and destroying away mountains? And what about the scaling? Tsk Tsk... such low efforts of trolling.

Casually you say? Let's read what Madara says about that:

Thus, I, Uchiha Madara, shall also respond with full power - Madara's own words

Let's see what Google says about full power definition:

Definition of at full power

: to the fullest extent of the energy or force that something can produce at full power

Not so casual, huh. Really thought that lie would slide kid?

If it was casual then why would Madara brag about it then?

He must be insecure hmm

2. Guess this needs to be posted then. During their 2nd fight Madara and Hashi created this immense crater, that was dwarfing dozens of mountain ranges and it's deeper than the height of those mountains. This was made by a single clash between Maddy's PS Sword and Hashi's Mokuton Golem Punch.

The images you posted there are anime filler. If the OP asked for composite Hashirama, then we let it slide for you, but we're talking about Manga Hashirama and he didn't do that in the canon material.

A die-hard Borito Stan like yourself should be aware Naruto anime is infested with 41% filler. So you cite canon feats, not filler feats. Don't commit this lie again, kiddo.

Acting like the God and Top Tiers of a "certain verse" didn't get severely injured by a small normal rock falling on them, even failing at dodging it... or didn't die or gets almost killed by a sword in the guts... or are mortally afraid of common bullets, that they can't even dodge. Right?

So salty, Mirio. The OP is asking about Hashirama specifically and you post off-topic stuff from different mangas. Is Fairy Tail living rent-free so badly in your head? Is that why you're always butthurt?

As for Hashirama's durability, yes, he is a glass cannon. A simple kunai can end his life:

You'd expect more from someone who is Large Country, wouldn't you agree?

Bruh you've taken little Woody's bait lmao

Big lol@ island level being "beyond" Hashirama tf

OT: Large Country lv, small continental with SS

Small country at max

No proper justification for anything above that

Large Islandlevel with Mukton

@molt:

VOTE is between the border of Land of Fire and Hidden Sound Village. This is the place where Madara and Hashirama's fight took place. They were not moving countries away.

You see the body of water right to that dust smoke made from Hashirama's strongest attack? That's actually a lake or bay, not an ocean like you think.

Thanks for the laughs. You're quite good at making people laugh tho.

I'll end this silly debate with 2 pics:

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Imagine being Woody and turning seas into lakes cuz of the power of friendsh- ooops, that's your favorite series.

Also quite funny how you avoided the argument and panels that shows alot of time passed since their Shinsu vs Kyuubi-Susanoo clash.

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Addio, Woody. Next time do not even try this low-lvl trolling.

I'm sure a CaV is waiting you.

Characters weaker than his base were already spitting out large island+ level feats. He should be somewhere in the country range via jutsu (not physicals), especially including the boost from SM.

Island but on this site it's dependent on his fanbase and wank. I personally have never seen a good reason to put him above Island.

Fact is people will put Hashirama above anyone they don't think can fight Madara no matter the nature of the opponent's abilities. It's why I stay away from any Hashirama vs threads.

People have put him above Akainu despite the fact Akainu is his perfect counter, has bigger large scale feats, and a massive durability and stamina advantage.

@miriotogata:

Imagine being Woody and turning seas into lakes cuz of the power of friendsh- ooops, that's your favorite series.

A sea is not an ocean, Mirio/woodwarrior. Let me refresh your poor memory:

You said they were fighting close to the ocean and yet your scan says seashoreand we have a visual representation of the sea's size:

The sea close to Hashirama/Madara fight is Multi-Mountain sized. An ocean size spans throughout continents.

And the map you posted yourself debunks Madara and Hashirama fighting nearby to an ocean, as the VOTE is not located to any nearby ocean:

So your 1st lie of them fighting close to an ocean is debunked.

This brings me to the point of it being a lake or a sea. It actually doesn't matter. Seas can often be referred to as lakes as well. For examples:

• Sea of Marmara is also referred to as Lake Marmara
• Sea of Galilee is also called Lake Tiberias

So really it's semantic game nothing else. You're Italian, you should know more about water-related geography than me. It ultimately doesn't matter because the body of water near VOTE is Multi-Mountain sized by visuals, not an ocean like you falsely claimed.

Also quite funny how you avoided the argument and panels that shows alot of time passed since their Shinsu vs Kyuubi-Susanoo clash.

And what does that prove? That they moved across countries? LOL. Maybe you forgot that Naruto and Sasuke also fought for lot of time in their last battle and it was still in VOTE.

I'll end you and this pathetic debate quickly:

Here is Hashirama & Madara in their last stand, and I highlighted the water flowing through:

This is shown in the anime as well, seeing as how you posted anime filler:

Do you wanna guess where that water is being flowed from? Let me help you:

This means they were fighting in the same place.

So your 2nd lie of them moving across countries during their fight is debunked.

I don't think you'll recover from this loss, Mirio. It will surely intensify your already emo negativity toward FT. But don't hold hatred in your heart towards a fictional series, amico. Didn't Naruto preach about love and peace? And Talk-No-Jutsu that turns evil people into good guys in a blink of an eye.

Good bye, MirioTogAta woodwarrior TheGuildLove and other alt names you have here. Take a tissue and wipe your tears

Country level. I don’t see the reasoning behind putting him at continental

@hypnos0929: I don’t think anyone has hashirama above even YC1 let alone a damn admiral

@hypnos0929

has bigger large scale feats

Lol, NO!!

Multi-mountain.

Continental

@paleblood:

One name: Punk Hazard

Akainu and Aokiji fought and permanently changed the climate of the entire island. For over a year Akainu's affected half has been a wasteland of fire, volcanic eruptions and lava. Please don't compare an attack that wouldn't wipe out a city.

At least large island lvl

country is the max highball

Country-Large Country level with his Ninjutsu.

His physical strikes are obviously not country level

Country lvl. Large country lvl with higball. Anything higher is absurd wank.

Street tier

They changed a climate of an island over 10 days of non-stop fighting. That's not something calculable.

Not to mention you can use it as an anti feat tho, since that they didn't actually damage anyhing.

And an attack that wouldn't wipe out a city, lmao... Are you series with this, do you relaize that the little bumps are supposed to be mountains right, hahahaha. And that it was after effect of him hitting Kurama Susanoo, not the ground itself.

Not to mention he previously stalemated 11 bijuudama fused with susanoo chakra blades. And am I really need to mention that each of Kurama's BB were pretty big, comparable in landscape to small mountain ranges and surpassing them in overall mass with the highs it reach. And had a vaporization value. Aah also that swords were likely weighting around several thousand ton and was moving at speeds close to quad mach digit.

Hashirama clashed with 11 island vaporizer attacks + 11 near mountain level attack + created an attack that made mountains looks like pointy bumps + still had enough hand to grab Kurama.

Nothing in One Piece compares to that!

Country lvl. Cannot see anything that could support continental lvl.

Large-island - Large island+ max.

How people come to the conclusion he's large-country to continental is just beyond me lol.

@paleblood:

Has any TBB ever destroyed an actual island? Like on panel?

And you say it's an anti feat because they didn't destroy anything when the island is literally in ruins. Akainu's half is a mess of volcanoes and Akojji's half is a frozen tundra that needs special facilities to support life. Kurama couldn't even destroy the leaf and two people survived inside him for days.

Naruto universe is 99% scaling attacks and y'all gotta chill with that. We see Kaido pick up an island. We see Teach and Ace create island wide attacks. We see Punk Hazard. We see Whitebeard tip Marine Ford during the Paramount War twice. We even see Moria shake his "boat". Heck we see Teach shake his island with a laugh.

By statements big Oars was pulling islands, Chinjao could crack a continent, Ace could completely burn cities with a fire fist, and Whitebeard could destroy the world.

@molt: Goodness the amount of lack of context is outstanding; everything you said in this portion is laughably incorrect:

VOTE is between the border of Land of Fire and Hidden Sound Village. This is the place where Madara and Hashirama's fight took place. They were not moving countries away.

Now if you see here:

Did you miss the statement of Madara and Hashirama causing the maps to be redrawn? Because no canonical map was provided in that era:

Their clashes CREATED the shape of those countries and the battle escalated throughout what is now the sound.

You see the body of water right to that dust smoke made from Hashirama's strongest attack? That's actually a lake or bay, not an ocean like you think.

Ignorance; You can very clearly see from the same exact chapter what they destroyed was a landmass that spreads hundreds if not of KM to create that opening for the water; The valley was created pointed inward from the edge of the Nothern Sound country and goes throughout the country:

Not to mention the explosion clearly didn't come on the water; it was in-land as seen by the land behind thousand hands and the impact of the explosion in the bottom right of the panel (that your highlight conveniently covered)

The massive Lake was created by the clash of the two's respective avatars; hence why you see the far off mountain range in the VoTE2 fight with Naruto and Sasuke. The northern part of the sound is right beside the mountain graveyard, which is indeed the border of an ocean:

Which Kishimoto did an excellent job consistency wise of portraying in the battle:

This doesn't even account for the fact that the body of water they are near is significantly larger than the VoTE

The highlighted part there is the valley that Hashirama made with Shinsuusenju. Hashirama and Madara fought in that valley later after Kurama was put to sleep, hence this panel:

Nope; This was made by off-panel means where they still fought for quite a while after Kurama was put to sleep; this valley was quite a bit away from the clash of Kurama and Hash and at the southern border of the country like you yourself agree with:

So yes; not only did the battle escalate over a country (A massive country at that) their attacks did indeed cross oceans.

Casually you say? Let's read what Madara says about that:

Yes, casually; just like when Madara casually split a mountain range with the shockwave of his attack after already busting a mountain high meteor fragment:

This alone could have created that valley for all we know.

Also big daddy Hashirama is country level; the result of the VoTE is their attacks canceling each other out, you could argue the attack potency to be higher but I prefer not to delve in that foolishness.

@hody_jones:

I don't see anything being destroyed. Prove it's not 99% light or at least show what it actually damaged. When lightning strikes it sure looks amazing but doesn't exactly destroy much.

I mean the TBB made by the 4 tailed cloak looked incredible but it didn't actually kill anyone.

Hashirama can not be Country level. And it is pretty obvious. If he was, he and Madara would've busted Land of the Sound during their fight. Which did not happen.

Also, he openly acknowledge to be weaker than an imperfect Juubito.

The Juubi, as i have showed sometimes, is not Country level either, since he directly hit Land of Thunder, yet it was far from being completely busted.

Actually, it is easy to prove. If the Juubi was Country level, each of his attacks would obviously have busted a Country. Yet, the only thing he was stated to bust was a City.

And Hashi is weaker than this. He is stated many times to be equal than Madara, whose we see busting multiple mountains. So he is multi mountain, just like the top tiers of Naruto that are not gods.

Show me one Country he had busted and i shall agree with you.

Only character that ever was stated to have destroyed a country is Sasori (also Orochimaru i believe). But that "destruction" was in the sense of domination.

Unless you want to advocate for Country level Sakura.

Country level

Cmon guys, hashirama was grabing kurama prime bijudamas with his wooden hands.

So what?

Kurama prime BBs are not stronger than the Juubi.

@hody_jones:

Again show me the aftermath... show me someone actually dying. Just like Amateratsu the Beast Bombs are overhyped concepts.

Then you have the nerve to call those gates mountain high? Like really? Is it because you don't understand depth perception? Because those might be 4-5 times the height of the trees. And once again No One Died. Not Kabuto, Sakura, a weaker Orochimaru with no arms or Naruto who was already getting boiled alive in the cloak.

I get plot armor but please stop with the jokes.

Hashirama can not bust an island, he's just a character written to survive the power scaling system. His abilities all revolve around limiting the Tailed Beasts in some way, shape or form. That doesn't translate to destructive capabilities.

Lol at Hashi being island lvl or below when his wood constructs can casually tank the force of an IJ3’s tbb and the fact that that’s Edo Hashi who’s generally weaker than the alive Hashi. Deffo above large country lvl but below small continental lvl.

hes island to maybe large island lvl