whats stronger? mcu or dceu?

hi guys thanks for answering my other thread about the strongest avengers.

i saw this thread made by cryaholic and i thought superman is strong. so how strong is superman in mcu?

cryaholic thread: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/what-is-the-true-scale-of-the-dceu-world-engine-2236563/

CM>Thanos>=Superman>Thor>Hulk

@hansonjohn: CM is not quite on Thanos's level. They both cannot really hurt each other though.

MCU by a wide margin….it is much more fantastical.

Thanos = Carol >> Thor = Cosmic armor superman >>>>> Hulk >>>>> Superlame

Doomsday>Hela>>Thanos>>>Thor=Clark=Carol

Superman is well above Thanos and the Hulk in terms of physical strength.

MCU

IG, Surtur, Dormammu, Ego, Celestials, Hela, Carol, Thanos, Thor >>>> DCEU

Thor's ring feat alone is way above anything anybody has ever done in DCEU. Beings like Thanos are stronger than even Thor. Not really close at all.

Dormammu > Ego > Odin > Surtur > Hela > Thanos > Thor = Doctor Strange > Superman = CM > Hulk

If this is a strength and not speed debate, then I won't lie to you guys "MCU takes this". I know DCEU Superman had tanked black holes, splits the Mother Box, destroyed the World Engine, but MCU characters had shown much more tbh again.

MCU is significantly more powerful due to high powered beings such as Dormammu, Surtur, Ego, Celestials, Alioth, Infinity stones/gauntlet, etc.

@cryaholic:

It’s an outlier like the WE feat.

Based on? People love calling it an outlier but there's no real evidence to suggest that. In comparison, Superman has plenty of showings to show that any mountain-level++ feat is an outlier. I won't get into discussing the WE feat here.

Multiple MCU characters solo DCEU for sure.

LOL

DCEU >>>>>>>>>> MCU Earth. DCEU loses when you include the Cosmics.

Any Marvel solos

Even if you disregard What If (which is based on the MCU universe) theres nobody in dceu on the level of IG Thanos, Dormy, or Wanda Vision Wanda

CAS solos he is everywhere

What if thor. What if captain marvel. Main timeline thor and captain marvel. Thanos. Surter. Ego. Dormy. Infinity stone users. Celestials. Dr strange. Wanda. Watcher. All cable of soloing the dceu. And this was just off the top of my head.

MCU by a landslide.

Even ignoring the What If's and the multiverse, this isn't remotely fair for the DCEU.

I say MCU due to the infinite gauntlet

In the future we might see true form darkseid in DCEU so stalemate

MCU IG characters are so powerful.

True form darkseid is a massive fodder

Best feat: Dying

Dceu Stan's a so toxic they will literally deny a feat on screen if it's from MCU

Not even a question

MCU.

MCU because of Celestials

It was probably close in 2015, but now the MCU has multiversal entities, so it is not close.