Whats is the point in which speed doesn't matter in a fight?

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This title might be confusing, so lemme explain it just a bit:

In my time viewing comic vine, I have found many things that decide fights primarily. One of those is speed. For example, a fight between DCEU Superman and CW Flash (morals off) would likely end up in the flash just speed blitzing and winning. Most people would agree that DCEU Superman probably has better strength feats than CW Flash, but supes here cannot react fast enough to do anything to him. The same cannot be said for let's say, Post-Crisis Wally West vs Galactus. Most people would laugh at the idea of Flash even standing a chance, even with the likely speed difference between the two; Galactus is just that much stronger.

To come to a semi-consensus in such a manner, I'd like to ask; what is a gap in strength that speed won't win you the fight?

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Skyfather level is where speed starts to get irrelevant.

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Most Skyfathers are versatile and durable as hell, so speed won't make a difference.

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Basically once characters stop having physical bodies and/or can control time/space

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Skyfather level is where speed starts to get irrelevant.

Is the Hulk a skyfather-level being?

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Why aren't lasers and stuff as "invincible" as speedsters - their is the speed of light, isn't it? How come some street-levels can block these things?

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Speed is over-rated here, because what is really considered instead here is time-stopping.

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Skyfather level is where speed starts to get irrelevant.

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Hax

Lots and lots of hax

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@mubs: Wally speed steals and then lands a trillion IMPSs.

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Skyfather.

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About the point when a character isn't bound by time. Past that case by case really...

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Slow character with Fast reflexes can overcome speedy characters