What villains can a hero not beat in your opinion?

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#1  Edited By Noobmaster2001

Simple, name a villain who is apart of a superheroes rogue's gallery who that hero can not beat. You can also name a villain who the hero can't beat unless they have prep or help, eg Spider-man can't beat Carnage unless he has prep or help.

Personally i don't think Hulk can beat Absorbing man.

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Thor, Odin, Batman, Wonder Woman, Hulk, Prof X, Wolverine, Iron Fist, Reed Richards are all villains that their heroes can't beat..

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Thor has a lot of villains he can't beat in a normal fight. Just off the top of my head

  • Kurse
  • Surtur
  • Gorr
  • Ymir
  • Hela
  • Destroyer
  • Mangog

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Superman has Mxy, who he can't beat conventionally. Black Adam was sometimes depicted as being too strong for Shazam to face alone.

As mentioned above, Thor has alot of villains who could qualify. In modern times Dormammo is depicted this way as well.

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Superman/Mxy

Wonder Woman/Circe

Come to mind

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In the movie Shazam, Billy/Shazam couldn't beat Dr. Sivana in a straight fight. The guy was pretty powerful and Shazam had to outsmart him.

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Also Star-Lord can't beat any villain in Cosmic Marvel so there's that too

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Doctor Strange by himself shouldn't be able to defeat more than half of his rogue gallery.

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The Avengers can’t beat:

Immortus (He can erased timelines at will, and was used as a replacement for Scarley Witch as a battery to harness unlimited temporal energy during John Byrnes WCA.)

Thanos

Ultron (non PIS)

Kang (non PIS)

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@kevd4wg said:

Thor has a lot of villains he can't beat in a normal fight. Just off the top of my head

  • Kurse
  • Surtur
  • Gorr
  • Ymir
  • Hela
  • Destroyer
  • Mangog

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Superman shouldn't be able to beak Darkseid but he consistently has in the past (although sometimes Darkseid is depicted as a JL villain ).

The X-Men shouldn't be able to beat Magneto or Apocalypse because of how powerful both of them are.

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Fantastic Four can't beat Galactus

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Superman shouldn't be able to beak Darkseid but he consistently has in the past (although sometimes Darkseid is depicted as a JL villain ).

The X-Men shouldn't be able to beat Magneto or Apocalypse because of how powerful both of them are.

Jean alone can beat Magneto

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@truemoonchilde: Well maybe modern day Jean can, but classic Magneto, Jean couldn't solo unless he had his helmet off because he was too powerful. I am not current with the X-Men of today.

Also I agree about your statement of FF shouldn't be able to defeat Galactus.

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@devilmenworks: @truemoonchilde: Classic Magneto without helmet fought off a combined psychic assault from Jean and Xavier...while he was sleeping.

Classic Mags and Dr. Doom were both pretty unbeatable.

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@devilmenworks: @truemoonchilde: Classic Magneto without helmet fought off a combined psychic assault from Jean and Xavier...while he was sleeping.

Classic Mags and Dr. Doom were both pretty unbeatable.

Yes, well classic Jean honestly kindof sucked, cause silver-age female characters were almost always written as damsels in distress. She's received quite a few massive power-ups since then.

Classic Doom was beaten one-on-one by Thing (course classic Thing was just slightly below Hulk but still). Doom is pretty powerful, but his true strength has always been in his prep. ability.

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Superman:

  • HP Doomsday
  • Mr. Mxyzptlk

Wonder Woman:

  • Ares
  • Circe

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#19  Edited By Paytience

@truemoonchilde: Mags also beat Jean Gray with the phoenix force on two separate occasions; beat Rachael Summers Phoenix; ripped Proteus apart by the electron; and solo stomped both the entire Avengers roster AND the entire XMen roster at once, while simulatneously taking control of all the world's nuclear satellites. Jean's amps only maybe put her at his level...not above him.

And that is assuming she can match Magneto's reaction feats and the speed at which his powers propogate...which are both ftl. MFTL+ in the case of how quickly his powers propogate.

Dr. Doom took the world over twice and gave it back because he got bored, and then conquered/saved all of reality and only gave that up because he was convinced to.

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@truemoonchilde: Mags also beat Jean Gray with the phoenix force on two separate occasions; beat Rachael Summers Phoenix; ripped Proteus apart by the electron; and solo stomped both the entire Avengers roster AND the entire XMen roster at once, while simulatneously taking control of all the world's nuclear satellites. Jean's amps only maybe put her at his level...not above him.

And that is assuming she can match Magneto's reaction feats and the speed at which his powers propogate...which are both ftl. MFTL+ in the case of how quickly his powers propogate.

Dr. Doom took the world over twice and gave it back because he got bored, and then conquered/saved all of reality and only gave that up because he was convinced to.

The two Doom feats are both prep. feats though. I acknowledge that with prep. Doom >> everybody except Reed who's his equal. But random encounter with normal gear he gets beat by Thing.

If one of those wins over Jean is from Morrison's run, I honestly always saw that as PIS. I'm not sure what the other one is. Racheal was never as strong as Jean, and Magneto is kindof a hard-counter to Proteus. I assume the last example is from Fatal Attractions. I don't remember who was on the Avengers roster at that time so not sure how impressive beating them is in this case, but that ultimately ended with Xavier wiping Magneto's mind.

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Spider-Man should never beat Rhino or Carnage, lmao.

Punisher and Daredevil should get killed in every issue by Bullseye.

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Superman can't beat Mxy.

Thor can't beat Surtur without amps or a plot device.