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What is dceu superman's top travel speed?
@lord_titan_: You can’t be serious
Hes not going any faster than mach 7
No he was MHS in MoS. Faster in bvS. And Flash creates blue shifts when he runs per terrio.
@heatforce: wtf even are blue shifts and what does that have to do with speed?
OT: Mach 900 at the very least
@fc_tsukihanami: Key: He started in the Arctic.
@fc_tsukihanami: watch man of steel and pull out a stopwatch when supes takes down the world engine. It takes him about a minute to get to the other side of the planet in time to save Lois
Where are you guys pulling mach 900 from?
When he traveled halfway around the world in less than a minute.
@cfrehse: so did he teleport? Lol
Hes not going any faster than mach 7
He could escape Earth's gravity, which require a speed of around Mach 33, so Mach 7 is vastly insufficient.
That's not how it works
You never escape gravity as the range is literally infinite. And flight (regardless of speed) means you have already overcame gravity. Even if you fly at mach 0.001, you can still go to space.
@frankthetank40: He is faster than sound. He creates sonic booms when he flies. There can be some calcs but none can be definite. However
He was travellling well below mach 23 when he took doomsday to space since the nuke caught up to him.
Where are you guys pulling mach 900 from?
When he traveled halfway around the world in less than a minute.
him and zod fighting they were up to low orbiting satelite in about 8 seconds. Thats mach 900 already. As for the fact he flew from arctic to kilimanjaro in 6 secs which is in Africa is even above that. This happens in different screen ofc and you could say that he wasnt that fast but he probably is.
Well, I know gravity has infinite range for a long time now, but I think you look too far that you forgot to notice a simpler point.
You can't "climb slowly" into space, at least not in a way you expected, it may looks like that it can, but no. Yeah, Superman might be able to manipulate anti-gravity, but still, he didn't slowly climb into space and thus make physical sense in this context (climbing slowly consumed way more energy than just spend as much as you can in a short period of time).
Also, he intentionally let the nuke hit himself and Doomsday instead of keep pushing him into space. Once Superman saw a warhead incoming, he zipped ahead of it effortlessly and repositioned himself in a way that the warhead will hit Doomsday directly.
I don't get it. What are you trying to say? Space isn't a mountain. You don't "climb" into space. Space is something we define, arbitrarily. Generally it is defined as 100 miles or 100 km. Space is not a barrier or something.
You are forgetting that Nuke doesn't have anti-gravity flight. It was considerably slowed down by gravity when it reached Superman, and no, he didn't outsped the nuke. He saw it coming and then flew towards Doomsday, and adjusted themselves. Nuke still covered more distance than Superman did in that scene (since nuke was farther away from Doomdday than Superman)
You're intepreting my word way too literally here. "Climb" in this context is a visual similarity to what planes do, in contrast to rocket.
Planes fly by riding on air. They work by pushing air around, so they cannot go to space where there is no air/atmosphere. Superman doesn't work that way. He flies, simply because he can fly. He flies because gravity doesn't hold him.
If he's not planning to get hit by a nuke, he could push Doomsday to the side, and as far as the scene tells, the warhead doesn't have a homing capability.
I never implied otherwise
He did outsped the nuke, at 2:06, he was just a dot by the time it cut to another angle (not another shot, but angle), and we got about ten seconds for the warhead to cross the distance that Superman just zipped past.
No he did not outsped the nuke. The nuke was far away from Superman at that point, so that's why it took 10 seconds.
The fact that even the order to launch nuke was given AFTER Superman had reached "distance high enough for nukeing to be safe" and it takes atleast minutes to launch a nuke after getting the order.
Mach 6. Low end hypersonic...
Really ?
Mach 6. Low end hypersonic...
Really ?
I mean, that's not really proving he's faster than that, but I wasn't serious anyway. I was just trying to come up with a believable lowball lol. It would be too obvious if I said mach 1.
24fps
LOL. For those who know what he is talking about, this is a correct answer, despite being a joke :)
- Went from the Arctic to Mt Kilimanjaro in a few seconds
- Crossed the Indian ocean in a few seconds
- Went from clouds to space in at least second
- Went from Indian ocean(WE) to Metropolis in under a minute
- Together with Zod they went from Sky-crapper height to a satellite in a couple of seconds.
- Went from Gotham to Mexico in a few seconds.
- Out-sped a mach 23 warhead while weakened
- Bullrushed DD from the clouds in a couple of seconds
- Kept up with the Flash and both were faster than a high a casual high end supersonic WW.
Other worthy mentions-
Swims a couple of miles to an oil-rig, saves people from natural disasters across the globe. arrives in time to catch an exploding Russian rocket, arrives in time to intercept a hellfire missile from wherever he was, arrives in time to help the JL from Smallville, races the Flash at an almost equal footing...
At least Mach 900, maybe more. It has been calculated here before. I think its in the DCEU Supermen respect thread.
He moved from the Canadian Arctic to the African Savannas in a few seconds. It was probably Tanzania as Mt Kilimanjaro could be spotted in that scene.
He also moved from somewhere in the Indian Ocean to mainland US/Metropolis in 1.5 seconds. That's halfway around the world. This feat is legit and not an effect of scene transition because after He destroys the World Engine at the Indian Ocean, the one at Metropolis stops working too as they are synchronized. He then takes only 1.5 seconds after getting up and flying to Metropolis to save Louis.
He also can reach escape velocity at will so his speed being greater than Mach 33 is already confirmed. I don't remember if the Bruce Wayne satellite was at LEO or GSO, but both Zod and Clark reached it in a few seconds too. That's a very very high speed. If the satellite was in GSO then, their speed would be greater than Mach 1k.
All that was in Man Of Steel.
In BvS, he reached Mexico from US in a few seconds and again reached Africa to protect Louis from the US in a few seconds too.
Overall, his travel speed is such that he can circle the globe in a few seconds.
I'd like to point out another fact here. In most cases we don't associate travel speed with reaction speed but in MoS while he flew from the Arctic to the Savannas, he changed course in split seconds, reacting to obstacles in his flight path, like the herd of Wildebeests he flew through or the mountains he dodged while flying at that speed. He can react at those speeds to some extent at least.
@deltahuman: si, the bvs guide confirms that Superman can react as fast as he can fly or else "he'd crash into everything." Simple enough logic. Plus we saw in MoS he can sharp turn around buildings like nothing and in Justice League he can keep up with the flash and fight him.
Scene transitions don't count as speed feats.
I tried to calculate Cav-El' top flying speed back then. Got numbers from Mach 750-770 (bare minimum) to Mach 900+
@angryhulks: I don't think that's how his flight powers work. He doesn't put any effort into flying from what it seems. He can float pretty easily so he is already defying gravity there.
Suppose superman was to slowly move up in the air. Obviously he will still go through the atmosphere eventually. It's not as if earth will pull him back down.
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