What Do Tier Do You Think Luffy Will Be In EOS

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Poll What Do Tier Do You Think Luffy Will Be In EOS (69 votes)

Large Island Level 16%
Country Level 36%
Multi Continent Level 19%
Moon Level 10%
Small Planet Level 4%
Planet Level 14%

Will he become the strongest of the HST ?

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#2  Edited By SocaJunkie

Country level.

Will he become the strongest of the HST

I normally would say no but Oda's statement of the final war making Marineford look like 'nothing' makes me hesitate.

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why can't i vote for solar system level

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I don't even watch one piece but I'll go the safe route with Country level, since the last time I tried to predict something like this turned out... embarrassingly... wrong.

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Multi Mountain.

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@princearagorn1 When you take a break from making that green and check this tag, our terms regarding EoS Luffy and Naruto still apply.

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#7  Edited By LordWhis2

Country level is the most reasonable. Luffy is already small country level, he isn't getting weaker by EOS I hope.

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Country level is the most reasonable. Luffy is already small country level, he isn't getting weaker by EOS I hope.

@socajunkie is that true?

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@socajunkie: @thebeardofzues: Luffy was able to destroy black knight which was stated to be made from the same strings as the birdcage.

The bird cage withstood a fairly large and fast moving meteor with no damage whatsoever.

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@lordwhis2:

  1. The cage cut the meteor up it didn't tank it.
  2. Luffy folded the inner part of a city which is his best feat so far and that's not country level.
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#13  Edited By TheBeardOfZues

@lordwhis2: Not really, it wasn't a large meteor.

and the cages cutting ability has nothing to do with Luffy's DC.

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#14  Edited By LordWhis2

@thebeardofzues: the meteor that killed the dinosaurs was 6 miles long.

It didn't need to be very big to qualify as country level.

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#15  Edited By LordWhis2

@thebeardofzues: black knight was stated to be composed of the same strings and luffy destroyed that.

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@lordwhis2: this meteor wasn't even close to 6 miles long.

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#17  Edited By LordWhis2

@thebeardofzues: It doesn't have to be 6 miles long. A 6 mile long meteor made the main life form on the entire planet extinct. That is a continent level feat.

The meteor that Fuji brought down being country level is fairly reasonable.

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#18  Edited By SocaJunkie

@lordwhis2:

Luffy was able to destroy black knight which was stated to be made from the same strings as the birdcage.

I don't recall this ever being stated, even if it was:

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Well shit, Kyros is small country level.

The bird cage withstood a fairly large and fast moving meteor with no damage whatsoever.

This one?

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First of all you would have to prove that meteor had the power to destroy Dressrosa which you can't do so moving on to my next point: Fujitora isn't a psychopath, that meteor was meant for Sabo, not to kamakaze kill everyone on the island, there may have been some deaths, but he kept it small for a reason.

Furthermore, this is Luffy's strongest attack. We can see that part of the city he punched Doffy to which folded in half almost comes up to Flower Hill which is around mountain sized and the collateral damage he caused was no where near enough to bust the entire country. Even if Luffy made a direct hit, it's ridiculous to think all of Dressrosa would have been wiped out.

You're saying Luffy in Gear Second-against Black Knight- performed a country level feat when he didn't come close to that level while in his most powerful form where his stats are several times better?

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@lordwhis2: I'll let you debate with Soca he/she understands OP more than I.

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@socajunkie: Genius, the strings from the black knight were actually what created the birdcage.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HJvgYqO2Ic4

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@socajunkie: Genius, the strings from the black knight were actually what created the birdcage.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HJvgYqO2Ic4

Ah yes that's true, now please go onto to counter everything else I've said.

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#22  Edited By SocaJunkie

@lordwhis2: It also doesn't mean anything considering Kyros casually cut Black Knight's head off yet Zoro couldn't damage the Bird Cage even with Haki.

So they're obviously not of the same durability.

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#23  Edited By LordWhis2

@socajunkie: While it has been a few years since the dressrosa arc now, didn't all the Marines call Fuji a lunatic for bringing a meteor down.

Did you see the sheer size if that thing ! If a 6 mile meteor could kill the dinosaurs then I am pretty sure that a meteorite that big would destroy a country .

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#24  Edited By LordWhis2

@socajunkie: Furthermore as someone who has defeated a Yonko's FM, Luffy should be somewhat comparable to Shanks and Mihawk who 'shook the entire grand line'. Garp who used mountains as punching bags. Whiteboard who split the sky and tilted marineford and Shiki who destroyed half of marineford due to the backlash of his fight.

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He'll be lucky enough to reach the tier of someone like Gladiator. If the series drags on for another 10 years while not moving forward any plot points I could see him reaching N52 Wonder Woman level if being generous.

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#26  Edited By SocaJunkie

@lordwhis2 said:

@socajunkie: While it has been a few years since the dressrosa arc now, didn't all the Marines call Fuji a lunatic for bringing a meteor down.

Because of the fact that they were still in the area and they didn't cal him crazy they just told him to warn them.

Did you see the sheer size if that thing !

Yes, it was small, he even says it's small inferring he wasn't going for maximum impact because once again it was meant for Sabo.

If a 6 mile meteor could kill the dinosaurs then I am pretty sure that a meteorite that big would destroy a country .

Yea that meteor set off a chain of global disasters which eventually killed off the dinosaurs. However even if I grant your speculation some merit and say that meteor would have destroyed the country-even though from a narrative stand-point it makes no sense. As I've already said- Bird Cage strings are not of the same durability as Black Knight.

Kyros one-shotted BK, Zoro couldn't scratch the Bird Cage:

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So no, Luffy isn't small country level.

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#27  Edited By SocaJunkie

@lordwhis2 said:

@socajunkie: Furthermore as someone who has defeated a Yonko's FM, Luffy should be somewhat comparable to Shanks and Mihawk who 'shook the entire grand line'. Garp who used mountains as punching bags. Whiteboard who split the sky and tilted marineford and Shiki who destroyed half of marineford due to the backlash of his fight.

He barely beat Katakuri so he's on par with the other Commanders such as Marco and Jozu since any fight between them would be close and whoever wins isn't going to be fit for another round.

Bringing up Emperor's isn't helping your case because a half dead Whitebeard showed himself above the Admirals whom the Commanders could give good fights to.

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@socajunkie: Fair enough but Doflamingo destroyed another meteorite of Fujitora's with normal strings.

Furthermore, Luffy destroyed God Thread which should be much sturdier than the bird cage.

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@socajunkie: Beating katakuri makes him admiral level. Admirals and emperors are on the same general level.

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As long as Luffy do not get an Power Up too strong, at most he will reach Country or Small Continent.

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#31  Edited By LordWhis2

@socajunkie: An admiral who a commander should give a good fight brought down that huge meteor that fell on the birdcage. I'm pretty sure that Fuji isn't stronger than Akainu so Akainu should be able to destroy meteors like that and that scales to Luffy.

Since Akainu and Kizaru are equals and Marco is almost as strong as Kizaru and equal to Katakuri who is weaker than Luffy.

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@socajunkie: Fair enough but Doflamingo destroyed another meteorite of Fujitora's with normal strings.

Yes he did. But there was a crater, the island was fine and Green Bit is smaller than Dressrosa.

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Furthermore, Luffy destroyed God Thread which should be much sturdier than the bird cage.

This is true but once again there's no evidence that meteor would have destroyed Dressrosa and Fujitora wouldn't have wanted to kill everyone, additionally:

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Yea.

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@socajunkie: LOL, a serious meteor is going to be way more powerful than a casual meteor he brings down while eating Ramen.

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@socajunkie: Beating katakuri makes him admiral level.

No it doesn't.

Admirals and emperors are on the same general level.

Not really considering how badly a half-dead Whitebeard curbed Akainu.

An admiral who a commander should give a good fight brought down that huge meteor that fell on the birdcage.

Ok...

I'm pretty sure that Fuji isn't stronger than Akainu so Akainu should be able to destroy meteors like that and that scales to Luffy.

And nothing at all proving Luffy supposedly being small country level is here.

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@socajunkie: the meteor that killed the dinosaurs left a 150km diameter crater. Size of crater =/= size of destruction.

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@socajunkie: Katakuri should be on par with Marco who was almost as strong as Kizaru.

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#37  Edited By SocaJunkie

@lordwhis2 said:

@socajunkie: LOL, a serious meteor is going to be way more powerful than a casual meteor he brings down while eating Ramen.

They were roughly the same size as the other meteors so I'm not sure what you're even doing anymore.

@lordwhis2 said:

@socajunkie: the meteor that killed the dinosaurs left a 150km diameter crater. Size of crater =/= size of destruction.

It didn't bust anything but the ground which is the point.

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#38  Edited By LordWhis2

@socajunkie: The Ramen meteor was smaller than the stern of the ship. The serious meteor was the size of a building !

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@socajunkie: Katakuri should be on par with Marco who was almost as strong as Kizaru.

Kizaru since his inception till today has never been seen fighting seriously so his true strength is unknown. If any Commander fought each-other the result would be similar to how Luffy vs Katakuri ended, therefore Luffy is Yonko Commander level.

We shouldn't hop on the 'as strong as an Admiral' train considering Akainu was merely annoyed by Marco and Vista's Haki-infused attacks, inferring they aren't on his level.

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#40  Edited By LordWhis2

@socajunkie: Marco was hit by a combined attack from all 3 admirals that heavily weakened him and he was mentally unstable because he had lost a friend.

We see a fresh Marco in seastone cuffs tank several attacks from Kizaru.

What about Benn Beckmann who made Admirals piss their pants ?

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#41  Edited By SocaJunkie

@lordwhis2:

The Ramen meteor was smaller than the stern of the ship.

Here's a Marine Battleship's size:

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Inside the red circle is an average sized ship. The meteors he pulled down were smaller than the stern but they were still massive in terms of relative size and slightly bigger than the Sunny, so around a small building so there isn't much difference though the Dressrosa meteor was definitely bigger, Fujitora says it's still small.

The serious meteor was the size of a building !

Yes. Are we done with the country-level head canon now?

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@socajunkie: Fujitora said that because most of the meteor had been obliterated by the birdcage, those were his exact words.

Again, a 6 mile long meteor killed the dinosaurs, a building sized meteor is definitely country level.

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#43  Edited By SocaJunkie

@lordwhis2:


Marco was hit by a combined attack from all 3 admirals

All 3 at the same time? I don't recall this.

that heavily weakened him and he was mentally unstable because he had lost a friend.

Ok...

We see a fresh Marco in seastone cuffs tank several attacks from Kizaru.

I've already said Commanders can give good fights to Admirals however Kizaru was still never shown to be serious. By the end of the war Kizaru had taken zero damage, can't say the same for Marco.

What about Benn Beckmann who made Admirals piss their pants ?

He didn't make anyone piss their pants, Kizaru was halted because he was taken by surprise and held at gun point, the bullets were either sea-stone or infused with Haki.

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@socajunkie: Dressrossa is 43.803 km in length. If you take out a ruler and you measure it then you will find that the meteor is 2.4 KM in length, in other words a quarter of the size of the Dinosaur-killing killing meteor. Solidly, country level.

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@socajunkie: Kiz may hold back but Kuzan is always serious and Marco went toe to toe with him as well.

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@socajunkie: Fujitora said that because most of the meteor had been obliterated by the birdcage, those were his exact words.

It wasn't obliterated, it got cut into chunks and we can see in that exact scan in the bottom right panel those chunks weren't that far apart so we can almost see the original size it had while coming down which wasn't that big.

Again, a 6 mile long meteor killed the dinosaurs, a building sized meteor is definitely country level.

It killed the dinosaurs because of the global chain of events which followed the impact. The impact itself caused a 115 mile wide and several mile deep crater. That's a meteor that is 6 miles long not even showing nearly enough to bust a country.

Let's highball the Dressrosa meteor, lie to ourselves and say it was as big as the Burj Khalifa: 828 meters tall.

Our imaginary meteor, friend to the one in Dressrosa, is over 11x smaller than the extinction meteor.

No it wasn't country level, please just stop.

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@socajunkie: Read my post above about the real size of the dressrosa meteor.

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@socajunkie: This Dinosaur-killing meteor that you seem hell-bent on lowballing has been estimated by scientists to have struck earth with a force equivalent to 100 teratons of TNT.

Even a single teraton of TNT would completely obliterate Japan.

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@lordwhis2:


Dressrossa is 43.803 km in length.

Solidly, country level.

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Kiz may hold back but Kuzan is always serious and Marco went toe to toe with him as well.

He blind-sided him with a kick. That was it.

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@socajunkie: LOL, nice trolling, you really are a comedic genius. It's not like anyone has ever thought of deleting a few words in between to completely change the meaning of a quote.