What buster tier is DBZ Goku?

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Posted by TakenStew22 (4459 posts) 9 days, 23 hours ago

Poll: What buster tier is DBZ Goku? (30 votes)

Room level ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 13%
Planetary 3%
Large planetary 0%
Multi-planetary 3%
Star/Solar System level 20%
Multi-Solar System level 23%
Galaxy level 7%
Multiversal ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 20%
Results 10%

What tier is Goku at the end of DBZ (not GT or Super)?

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#2 Edited by Crater_Maker (179 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol no one in DBZ has Solar system feats yet I met rookies who claim Goku is galaxy level.

While I’m at it do people realize how large of a gap Solar System level and Galaxy level are? A Solar system Level Character is beyond insignificant to a Galaxy level character.

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#3 Posted by TakenStew22 (4459 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol no one in DBZ has Solar system feats yet I met rookies who claim Goku is galaxy level.

While I’m at it do people realize how large of a gap Solar System level and Galaxy level are? A Solar system Level Character is beyond insignificant to a Galaxy level character.

People usually go by scaling in DBZ because the series is not very consistent with feats.

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#4 Posted by JohnCena69swag (4128 posts) - - Show Bio

@crater_maker: well there are statement claiming solar system as far back as Cell so that's what a lot of fans go off of.

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#5 Posted by Mr_Shazam0920 (5754 posts) - - Show Bio

Based off statements and scaling I would out EOS Goku at multi solar system level.

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#6 Posted by Crater_Maker (179 posts) - - Show Bio

@johncena69swag:

It’s a statement and that was at his full power. If you wanted to argue Solar system level because of a statement sure that’s reasonable.

But the Jump from Solar system to Galaxy level is much more massive than people really understand.

Kid Buu would have to insert absolutely no effort in Killing Ssj 2 Vegeta who shouldn’t have been that much stronger than Ssj2 Teen Gohan who is, by statements mind you, not that much stronger than Super Perfect Cell.

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#7 Posted by MattyBoi (2426 posts) - - Show Bio

Galaxy Level by scaling to kid buu.

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#8 Edited by The_Hajduk (7015 posts) - - Show Bio

@crater_maker: The gap between solar and galaxy is the same as the gap between planet and solar and they crossed that gap in one saga.

They can go from solar to galaxy in one saga too.

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#9 Posted by BeyondST1001 (196 posts) - - Show Bio

Omni-outerversal

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#10 Edited by Crater_Maker (179 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_hajduk:

We can directly scale Kid buu to Cell Saga level characters. Vegeta isn’t wouldnt be that much stronger than Super Perfect Cell, though he would body him. However If Vegeta was slightly above Solar System level as a Ssj2 and Buu was Galaxy level then Buu would have easily finger flicked Vegeta.

Also it wasn’t just one saga. If we are going off statements Vegeta was planet level by the Saiyan Saga. During that time up to Cell they went through Numerous Power ups.

Vegeta and Goku from the cell Saga to the Buu saga on the other hand only upgraded to Ssj 2 and 3.

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#11 Posted by Army2442 (3398 posts) - - Show Bio

Cell has a solar system feat if the data books count and he scales to buu so multi solar system is fair.

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#12 Posted by DanielDaRipper (5896 posts) - - Show Bio

Solar system level through scaling.

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#13 Posted by Namebk (1643 posts) - - Show Bio

Solar System to Multi Solar System

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#14 Posted by ShadowRazer24 (455 posts) - - Show Bio

@namebk said:

Solar System to Multi Solar System

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#15 Posted by MainJP (7490 posts) - - Show Bio
@mattyboi said:

Galaxy Level by scaling to kid buu.

Except Boo wasn't galaxy level.

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#16 Edited by Mike_Fowler (5372 posts) - - Show Bio

@mainjp: manga wise yes, anime wise he was

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#17 Posted by Crater_Maker (179 posts) - - Show Bio

@mike_fowler:

Manga wise he destroyed a “few hundred planets” Over the course of years.

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#18 Edited by MattyBoi (2426 posts) - - Show Bio

@mainjp said:
@mattyboi said:

Galaxy Level by scaling to kid buu.

Except Boo wasn't galaxy level.

He destroyed a galaxy, how is that not galaxy level?

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#19 Posted by MainJP (7490 posts) - - Show Bio
@mattyboi said:

He destroyed a galaxy, how is that not galaxy level?

It's filler.

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#20 Edited by MattyBoi (2426 posts) - - Show Bio

@mainjp said:
@mattyboi said:

He destroyed a galaxy, how is that not galaxy level?

It's filler.

Oh, well then he'd be multi solar system level.

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#21 Edited by MattyBoi (2426 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol no one in DBZ has Solar system feats yet I met rookies who claim Goku is galaxy level.

While I’m at it do people realize how large of a gap Solar System level and Galaxy level are? A Solar system Level Character is beyond insignificant to a Galaxy level character.

In dbz debating you cant only go by feats, you have to include statements and scaling, otherwise, first form frieza is the strongest in the series till anime kid buu or till dbs.

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#22 Posted by Mike_Fowler (5372 posts) - - Show Bio

@crater_maker: mate, that’s why I specified the manga and anime difference

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#23 Edited by Wot_m8 (1846 posts) - - Show Bio

I wonder why people always complain about DBZ scaling?

Like when did Toriko destroy a star? Not once and yet he is star level? Why? Because of common logic and scaling.

End of Z Goku should Solar System+ via logic and common sense with a little scaling.

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#24 Posted by Supermanfan1938 (392 posts) - - Show Bio

Massively sub-laser beam level

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#25 Posted by Crater_Maker (179 posts) - - Show Bio

@mattyboi:

When you scale a character you scale them from other characters previous feats. The last major statement before the Buu Saga was Solar system level so at that point the highest tiers were floating around Solar system Level.

Entering the Buu saga we had a few more Solar system level Characters including the Super Saiyan 2s.

Now if we were to say Kid Buu was Galaxy level... Ssj2 Vegeta would have been vaporized with a standard Ki blast.

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#26 Posted by MattyBoi (2426 posts) - - Show Bio

@mattyboi:

When you scale a character you scale them from other characters previous feats. The last major statement before the Buu Saga was Solar system level so at that point the highest tiers were floating around Solar system Level.

Entering the Buu saga we had a few more Solar system level Characters including the Super Saiyan 2s.

Now if we were to say Kid Buu was Galaxy level... Ssj2 Vegeta would have been vaporized with a standard Ki blast.

To be fair kid buu destroying the galaxy was anime only, and if vegeta tanked a ki blast from him then that would be a feat to his durability. In DB your Durability is most of the time higher than your AP, tho it's sometimes inconsistent.

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#27 Edited by infamous5445 (578 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably solar-system level.

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#28 Posted by BatmanPlusJay (5088 posts) - - Show Bio

If you picked anything other than room level you're a complete and utter disgrace to everything to ever exist

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#29 Posted by Gaoron (9931 posts) - - Show Bio

Around solar system+ based on:

- scaling to Cell solar system claim that was confirmed by multiple databooks

- Buu destroying planets/stars depending on translation and source

- final Goku and Vegeta fight ending in supernova in DBO which was written by Toriyama and canon before DBS

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#30 Posted by DeathandGrim (4864 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably with a full Kamehameha he's planetary at best