TONERI MOON SLICE CALC (Fodder)

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#1  Edited By mandabub

ATTENTION: If you are a Naruto wanker, please leave this thread immediately because it will hurt your feelings!

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108 pixels= 1.8 meters

457 pixels = 7.6 meters

since they are 7.6 meters apart, both halved were moved 3.8 meters away from their point of origin

Timeframe = 140900 frames - 140788 frames = 112 frames

112 frames / 25 FPS = 4.48 sec (this is how long the slice was)

V = 3.8 / 4.48 = 0.85

0.85 meters per second, which is equivalent to 3.06 km per hour

The mass of the Moon is 7.347 x 10^22 kg

It will be 20% hollow

7.347e+22 kg x 0.8 = 5.8776e+22kg

a velocity of 0.85 meters per second and a mass of 5.8776e+22 kg results in KE = 2.123283E+22 J or small country level”

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The cut is Clearly 8m:

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17 seconds after the split we get these shots:

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It doesn't look like they're 100km apart.

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#3  Edited By mandabub

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Aw Toneri soloing your favorite chars gets you this salty

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#5  Edited By RDCDesmond

This still doesn’t discredit Toneri‘s initial cut. The first shot should take precedence over the second since the first shot is where the feat happens. And in that shot the fissure is wide as large craters on the moon. Similar to this game moment here a attack shown that seems to have a wide scale of destruction but later shown to not.

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We also have to take into account the animator plot wanted to have naruto and toneri have a conversation later not far from each other with the cut symbolizing the different sides of sage path and the dark ancestors path. And the cut being visible from earth by Kakashi who wasn’t using binoculars is also supportive. You can’t tell me he saw a 20 meter cut on moon. It’s seriously not meant to scale only the initial cut is. I mean the Moon was at its closest to the Earth at that point but not so close that a mere 20 meters is visible. The moon would need to be 38,000 km away just to see a 10 km wide cut in detail.

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Toneri still solos

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Aw Toneri soloing your favorite chars gets you this salty

My favs are above small country level lol

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@rdcdesmond: We can see from several shots that the cut is only 8m wide.

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#9  Edited By MajesticStar

Fodder bait. The split is still 50+ kms and there's nothing you can do about it except cry.

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#10  Edited By mandabub
@majesticstar said:

Fodder bait. The split is still 50+ kms and there's nothing you can do about it except cry.

This is 50+ km in Naruto fan perspective ?

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A 7m wide cut visible from earth? Bro please. Lmao at this bait thread

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A 7m wide cut visible from earth? Bro please. Lmao at this bait thread

Looks like it to me

This is 50+ km in Naruto fan perspective ?

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@mandabub: You can see 7m cuts on the moon from space? Bro's got that real life sharingan💀

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@ryugakishatu: Stop avoiding my question maybe ?

We can see from several shots that the cut is only 8m wide or not ?

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#15  Edited By RyugaKishatu

@mandabub: you dodged my question first. I asked if you can see 7m cuts from earth, you didn't answer. You stop dodging my question lmao

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@ryugakishatu said:

@mandabub: you dodged my question first. I asked if you can see 7m cuts from earth, you didn't answer. You stop dodging my question lmao

Yes, it can be seen from earth because this is fiction

Now answer my question:

We can see from several shots that the cut is only 8m wide yes or no ?

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#17  Edited By RyugaKishatu

@mandabub: No we can't. It looks like that cause its fiction/animation, they can talk through a 50+km wide cut cuz fiction.

Lmao, you don't realize that exact logic can be used against you?

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#18  Edited By yoroshi0
@ryugakishatu said:

@mandabub: No we can't. It looks like that cause its fiction/animation, they can talk through a 50+km wide cut cuz fiction.

Lmao, you don't realize that exact logic can be used against you?

can we all admit that the show is kinda mess powerscaling wise after madara?

also, it's clear the last naruto/boruto is at least continental level because cutting a celestial body the size of a continent in earth is no way a ''small country lvl''

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@yoroshi0: After Madara there was still Kaguya, Toneri, V1 and V2 Jigen then Isshiki for scaling purposes

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@mandabub: Those secondary shots are after time and mins have passed. Toneri wasn’t even in Tenseigan form anymore, and Naruto had won the battle by that point so the later shots aren’t used for scaling purposes. The initial shot is more reliable since it is the shot where the feat of both halves of moon moving apart from each other happen and the cut is shown to be large as the tycho crater.

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Even the cut where naruto clones bursted from the ground was much larger than a mere 10m cut as Toneri is size of a floating rock in this shot

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#22  Edited By mandabub

@ryugakishatu said:

@mandabub: No we can't. It looks like that cause its fiction/animation, they can talk through a 50+km wide cut cuz fiction.

Lmao, you don't realize that exact logic can be used against you?

I mean they can, but this isn't exactly 50+km...

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@rdcdesmond said:

@mandabub: Those secondary shots are after time and mins have passed. Toneri wasn’t even in Tenseigan form anymore, and Naruto had won the battle by that point so the later shots aren’t used for scaling purposes. The initial shot is more reliable since it is the shot where the feat of both halves of moon moving apart from each other happen and the cut is shown to be large as the tycho crater.

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Even the cut where naruto clones bursted from the ground was much larger than a mere 10m cut as Toneri is size of a floating rock in this shot

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False, these shots I provided are exactly 17 seconds after the split. As I said b4, 4 consistent shots >>>>> 1 inconsistent shot

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Did the movie ever show a close up of the big gap like they did the small gap?

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@koose104 said:

Did the movie ever show a close up of the big gap like they did the small gap?

Nope. They showed us the true size of the cut from 4 different angels and all of them are small

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#29  Edited By Undre

@mandabub: W scale lol naruto fans coping

But Toneri can still be scale to moon+ vai pushing the moon overpowering it's GBE

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#30  Edited By mandabub

@undre said:

@mandabub: W scale lol naruto fans coping

But Toneri can still be scale to moon+ vai pushing the moon overpowering it's GBE

Thanks. Moving the moon is a clear cut outlier because nobody in Boruto or Naruto has ever done anything remotely close to it.

And no, he didn't overpower the moon's GBE

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@mandabub said:

@undre said:

@mandabub: W scale lol naruto fans coping

But Toneri can still be scale to moon+ vai pushing the moon overpowering it's GBE

Thanks. Moving the moon is a clear cut outlier because nobody in Boruto or Naruto has ever done anything remotely close to it.

And no, he didn't overpower the moon's GBE

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Hagoromo and Hamura put the moon in orbit, but only much faster than Toneri moving the moon.

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@mandabub: Why not? Can you prove it isn't? It could just be an animation error

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Obvious bait but Toneri moved the moon with TK anyways which was calced to be planet level

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@so6pnaruto: no Toneri moving the moon is moon+. In novels it stated the moon would torn apart by earths GBE creating meteors and surface wiping

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@darsh745: Thats head canno they gave no timeframe

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@undre said:

@darsh745: Thats head canno they gave no timeframe

In the anime we can see the real thing, and you can clearly see that it only took a few hours for her to be put into orbit, the databook also talks about her formation being extremely fast which matches what is shown in the fight of Kaguya vs team 7 only this already guarantees the moon's level in terms of energy/AP since they use their chakra for this, and the moon in the last was already being pushed away for days before Toneri reached his tenseigan, even for extreme lowball I don't think the two of them spent days pushing the moon into orbit.

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loool.

funny thing is that the calc is even a massive highball.

Your approach assumes the gwre was an infinitely thin cut with no destruction itself. From what I recall, the gwre was actually pretty massive in radius (it dwarfed naruto), so from that alone, the "3.8m" figure would be reduced further. In fact, I will go as far as saying that the gwre didn't "move" the moon apart, it only destroyed everything in its path. So the kinetic energy approach is off the table, and we'd have get the volume/mass of the moon destroyed and get the energy required to destroy that equivalent, a rough calc put it at around island-large island

TBH, the feat isn't really impressive at all. It just overhyped because its naruto, and everyone here seems to wank the series for some reason

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@mandabub: Imagine being 3k post in and still making bait threads like these. And that cut is still 50kms no matter how much you cry about it.

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@loriazas: In case it wasn't obvious, the last three cuts aren't 50km wide (they are 7 meters like OP posted), and length on the chasm from the other two images cannot be determined from that angle alone.

But ultimately, what you dudes don't get is that none of these shots matter in any capacity. The only cut that matters is the one initially produced by Toneri, which is visually 50 kilometers or so, and narratively confirmed by Kakashi being able to see the gap. Therefore, "muh consistent shots" argument doesn't work.

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@undre:This ain’t no W common sense was Toneri moving moon feat was greater ap feat than him cutting It. It’s just people focus on flashy stuff.

@mandabub: The shot of the cut directly after the feat when toneri is still in Tenseigan Mode and in heat of the battle is much wider

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Vs the shot of the cut shown later when time was shown when he has his eyes taken away, been defeated, and battle is over. More than enough time for both sides to have come back together.

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Seems impossible for the initial cut to be a few meters and still be visible as such a big Line to the audience with such a for off shot from the moon

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the rational explanation would be that the fissure was closing as the mins went on and during the end of Toneri and Naruto battle

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Bro thinks posting an image over and over makes him right and Kakashi wrong 💀

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Bro thinks posting an image over and over makes him right and Kakashi wrong 💀

Nah, clearly Kakashi had super telescopes for eyes and could see 7 meters wide holes on the surface of the moon!

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#49  Edited By RDCDesmond

@loriazas: It’s not a measly handful of meters if you don’t ignore the first shots.

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You are just using the low end shots when time has passed and the animators can get away with it. The shots I use is directly after feat. While the shots you use Toneri had long already cut the moon, naruto summoned hundreds of clones, both had a standoff before naruto punched through Toneri second beam and knocked him out of Tenseigan, then Hinata stole his eyes, followed by more dialogue, all of this happens then the scene shown with the cut you guys are using is shown. So much time had passed since then. Both halves grew back closer together in that time.

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20 meter cut line wouldn’t be visible to audience here ^ this far above the moon shot nor be relevant to the visible the craters

If we go with your logic How close do you think the moon was to earth for Kakashi to see a 20 meter cut in detail when even people with Byakugan limit for seeing something far away in detail is like 10 km.

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