Tobey and Andrew were amped in NWH

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#1  Edited By rajjarsalt

People have been suggesting that Tobey and Andrew are post-Prime to deny scaling, but this is not the case, as the passage of time was meant to have allowed them to upgrade their suits.

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#3  Edited By SirDragonFly

"Non-canon statement"

"probably"

"doesn't know whether they changed their suits or augmented them, and doesn't know whether either happened because says it's only probably"

"augmented suit doesn't mean either Tobey or Andrew were amped"

meanwhile the title says

Tobey and Andrew were amped in NWH

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The title of this thread is misleading. Where does it say that Tobey and Andrew were amped in NWH? Upgrading suits =/= receiving an amp-up.

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"Non-canon statement"

"probably"

"doesn't know whether they changed their suits or augmented them, and doesn't know whether either happened because says it's only probably"

"augmented suit doesn't mean either Tobey or Andrew were amped"

meanwhile the title says

Tobey and Andrew were amped in NWH

Wat? It’s a VFX statement… they are just explaining what they put on screen.. VFX Descriptions of a thing>>> ours.

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Augment.. I don’t think they made their suits worse.. fair to say they were on game IMO.

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I knew they were amped, it would be wierd to have them equal a 1000 tonner Holland if they weren't.

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#7  Edited By frozen  Moderator
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#8  Edited By SirDragonFly
@death4bunnies said:
@sirdragonfly said:

"Non-canon statement"

"probably"

"doesn't know whether they changed their suits or augmented them, and doesn't know whether either happened because says it's only probably"

"augmented suit doesn't mean either Tobey or Andrew were amped"

meanwhile the title says

Tobey and Andrew were amped in NWH

Wat? It’s a VFX statement… they are just explaining what they put on screen.. VFX Descriptions of a thing>>> ours.

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Augment.. I don’t think they made their suits worse.. fair to say they were on game IMO.

Same as twitter writer statements, but it's not accepted as good evidence. Not to mention that they are themselves unsure in what is true and what is not.

Nobody says that they made their suits worse, but that doesn't mean that the suits amped Tobey's physical stats.

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#9 frozen  Moderator

@gaoron: In what way were they amped?

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#10  Edited By death4bunnies  Moderator
@sirdragonfly said:
@death4bunnies said:
@sirdragonfly said:

"Non-canon statement"

"probably"

"doesn't know whether they changed their suits or augmented them, and doesn't know whether either happened because says it's only probably"

"augmented suit doesn't mean either Tobey or Andrew were amped"

meanwhile the title says

Tobey and Andrew were amped in NWH

Wat? It’s a VFX statement… they are just explaining what they put on screen.. VFX Descriptions of a thing>>> ours.

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Augment.. I don’t think they made their suits worse.. fair to say they were on game IMO.

Same as twitter writer statements, but it's not accepted as good evidence. Not to mention that they are themselves unsure in what is true and what is not.

Nobody says that they made their suits worse, but that doesn't mean that the suits amped Tobey's physical stats.

Again better they describe it than us… saying you wont accept it is one thing, saying no one will is another..

This isn’t contradicted on screen and it’s actually supported because those suits were different than older suits… and maybe they didn’t amp Tobeys stats, but maybe they explain how he took electristy so well.. idk just additional information that’s always welcome.

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#11 death4bunnies  Moderator
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@death4bunnies: In what way do you think their suits were augmented?

Idk, Garfeild had that electric suit so maybe something like that.. and both suits took some damage without ripping.

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#12 frozen  Moderator

@death4bunnies: At best I can see some argument for insulated suit, given that they all tanked Electros attacks without much issue. But any argument that they were strength or speed amped isn't supported by anything.

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@gaoron said:

I knew they were amped, it would be wierd to have them equal a 1000 tonner Holland if they weren't.

Based.

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@frozen said:

@death4bunnies: At best I can see some argument for insulated suit, given that they all tanked Electros attacks without much issue. But any argument that they were strength or speed amped isn't supported by anything.

I didn’t make those claims, just that it’s augmented.. electricity was just a easy example.. I’m fine with just saying augmented over thier old suits as I don’t think it would be a downgrade.

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@death4bunnies: I see, well I don't see why the suits would be downgraded either. In any case I don't think this augmentation means much for scaling.

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That's not what an amp is?

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Improved suits≠Amped physicals

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So much reaching. Holland would’ve been more ‘amped’ due to the nano particles on his integrated suit then.

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Oh wow, they got slightly better fabric, so that must mean they are a billion times more powerful!!!!!!!!!!!

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@mandabub said:

So much reaching. Holland would’ve been more ‘amped’ due to the nano particles on his integrated suit then.

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Oh wow, they got slightly better fabric, so that must mean they are a billion times more powerful!!!!!!!!!!!

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I could see their outfits being tougher (presumably) but they don't have technology at the level of Stark's nanotech, which impresses me a lot. Tobey has passive spider-sense and organic webs which plausibly match Tom's tech in a way.

That said, they don't need tech to match Tom. Hell, even Tobey is being considered above Tom.

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raj tier bait

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Lol

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#26  Edited By Randomidk

Spider-Men feeds on fabric so of course they got stronger!

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@death4bunnies said:
@sirdragonfly said:

"Non-canon statement"

"probably"

"doesn't know whether they changed their suits or augmented them, and doesn't know whether either happened because says it's only probably"

"augmented suit doesn't mean either Tobey or Andrew were amped"

meanwhile the title says

Tobey and Andrew were amped in NWH

Wat? It’s a VFX statement… they are just explaining what they put on screen.. VFX Descriptions of a thing>>> ours.

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Augment.. I don’t think they made their suits worse.. fair to say they were on game IMO.

Same as twitter writer statements, but it's not accepted as good evidence. Not to mention that they are themselves unsure in what is true and what is not.

Nobody says that they made their suits worse, but that doesn't mean that the suits amped Tobey's physical stats.

These people made the suits only what they say is the truth

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#29  Edited By rajjarsalt
@mikemageo said:
@mandabub said:

So much reaching. Holland would’ve been more ‘amped’ due to the nano particles on his integrated suit then.

Consarn the integrated suit and thine cope! Everyone nose the Iron Spider is an amp due to those nano particles!

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@fangdanerd said:

Oh wow, they got slightly better fabric, so that must mean they are a billion times more powerful!!!!!!!!!!!

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@akz said:
@mikemageo said:
@mandabub said:

So much reaching. Holland would’ve been more ‘amped’ due to the nano particles on his integrated suit then.

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raj tier bait

I'll be sure to link this "thread" next time Raj is complaining about copium.

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Uhm, they definitely weren't amped and the passage you wrote never claims they where either. And they where weaker, as Octavius was able to grab them. But most of the time their abilities where on the same level.

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#36  Edited By rajjarsalt
@steve40l said:

Uhm, they definitely weren't amped and the passage you wrote never claims they where either. And they where weaker, as Octavius was able to grab them. But most of the time their abilities where on the same level.

Call it what you want, but a augmented suit is an upgrade, an amp in every sense of the word

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@power_hunter said:

raj tier bait

I'll be sure to link this "thread" next time Raj is complaining about copium.

Good to hear you're linking filmmaker statements over 40 minutes of a powerscaler's babble

Character development at work, I take back all I said about copium

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#38  Edited By Xunt

If this is coming from a VFX artist talking about why the suits changed in appearance I feel the term "augmented" is probably referring to improved/changed visual design.

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@xunt said:

If this is coming from a VFX artist talking about why the suits changed in appearance I feel the term "augmented" is probably referring to improved/changed visual design.

Didn't Garfield have an insulative suit which helps against Electro

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"Non-canon statement"

"probably"

"doesn't know whether they changed their suits or augmented them, and doesn't know whether either happened because says it's only probably"

"augmented suit doesn't mean either Tobey or Andrew were amped"

meanwhile the title says

Tobey and Andrew were amped in NWH

Exactly! This is that nonsense clickbait misleading title bad news and tabloid sources often have

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NWH wank strikes again, except this time they’ve turned on each other.

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if this ever gets old for you raj, I see a bright future for you writing for the sun

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@rajjarsalt Oh look, they gave their suits a redesign. This new larger spider logo must make me more powerful.

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@gaoron said:

I knew they were amped, it would be wierd to have them equal a 1000 tonner Holland if they weren't.

Based.

LMFAO

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@death4bunnies said:
@gaoron said:

I knew they were amped, it would be wierd to have them equal a 1000 tonner Holland if they weren't.

Based.

LMFAO

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#48  Edited By Baalhaddad
@death4bunnies said:
@baalhaddad said:
@death4bunnies said:
@gaoron said:

I knew they were amped, it would be wierd to have them equal a 1000 tonner Holland if they weren't.

Based.

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That ferry feat is not a 1000 ton feat, neither is the tower feat, Him stopping cull is as reliable as Diana stopping Doomsday

The last one definitely is but i can't recall seeing that, where is it from?

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#49 death4bunnies  Moderator

@baalhaddad:

Ferry is definitely over 1000 tons, so is the belltower.. and he overpowered cull in 2 separate movies.

That last one is concept art for NWH.

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@baalhaddad:

Ferry is definitely over 1000 tons, so is the belltower.. and he overpowered cull in 2 separate movies.

That last one is concept art for NWH.

The bell tower was not completelt broken off but a portion was collapsing and he slowly redirected it and it still fell, he was only taking a small portiin of it's weight, ask yourself how can a character who cant fly lift the full weight of an object while standing ontop of it? The ferry feat has been addressed in other threads as to why he's not lifting the weight of the ferry so i wont go over that again

As for Cull he has no feats to suggest he can lift a thousand tons so Spiderman overpowering him doesn't prove he can lift a 1000 tons

As for the concept art, BRUH