
So as you see from the panel above Tim is now officially bi, as a bi person whose favourite hero is Tim I could not be more overjoyed. Thoughts?
Well I'm glad you're happy, but for me it barely registers. I do think it can open up a wide range of stories that can now be told with the character, this isn't the stunt that marvel pulled with Iceman (though I have to wonder Jean Grey just slipped into the DCU for a quick visit).
But I have to wonder if they will use it as part of the core of the character, or if they are just going to pay lip service to it. If its only mentioned in an offhand way and he's shown not really having to deal with any of it, then it won't do the character any good.
Prefer him with Steph honestly but cool I guess. Don't mind him being Bi as long as it's not him just practically being just gay with no real interest in the opposite sex anymore.
Prefer him with Steph honestly but cool I guess. Don't mind him being Bi as long as it's not him just practically being just gay with no real interest in the opposite sex anymore.
I agree to the most part, Tim and Spoiler did work well but I think this opens up the door for many more relationships.
@mustafa-28: Who knows, maybe him and bunker? They seemed pretty cool during the new 52 Titans run and iirc bunker was gay himself.
Probably would've made more sense to do it for Dick, considering that people have been talking about it since the freaking 50's.
Its better than the way Marvel just ignored the 50 years of Ice-Man being in committed heterosexual relationships. If a characters sexual orientation is the most important thing about that character then that character is really boring.
who hurt you
@cattlebattle: why not though
@cattlebattle: why not though
I asked first there, bucko.
@cattlebattle: why not though
I asked first there, bucko.
Got me there
Couldn't care less. It doesn't bring anything to the character.
Just like being straight
I don’t have an issue with a character being bi. I do have an issue when it feels like it’s done simply to placate and for DC to pick up brownie points by appearing to be progressive. As a black man I’m kinda over straight white males being repurposed, race gender or sexual orientation swapped. Make NEW diverse characters. It’s lazy IMO. Superficial coat of paint.
Couldn't care less. It doesn't bring anything to the character.
Just like being straight
Okay, and? What's your point?
That was my point,
@achillesspawn: ”it doesn’t bring anything to the character”, well yes it does, it’s more representation without feeling like tokenization and it opens up the road to many more romances. Why don’t you show the same apathy to the straightness of characters
Couldn't care less. It doesn't bring anything to the character.
Just like being straight
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@achillesspawn: ”it doesn’t bring anything to the character”, well yes it does, it’s more representation without feeling like tokenization and it opens up the road to many more romances. Why don’t you show the same apathy to the straightness of characters
To me it just feels like hey look at are lgbtq character, see we're woke, don't cancel us. It doesn't seem like they actually care about representation
I don't understand your question, you have no idea how I would react to a straight characters relationship.
so what do you suggest comics should do
Create new characters who happen to be (insert sexuality here). Don’t announce it. Don’t over promote it on cbr. Don’t pander. Just make new and awesome characters who just so happen to have more diverse sexual profiles that readers and or would be fans just discover by reading the comics. Stop. Being. Lazy
@achillesspawn: well I don’t but I don’t expect youd point out problems with it
@the_silkworm: well I understand that with turning characters gay, but being bi takes figuring out in real life and most bi people do think they are straight or in the start. I like how DC didn’t make a whole big deal of it and just him accepting a date proposal l but I see where you are coming from
@mustafa-28: that’s understandable too. It just would have had better optics if there had been a least some form of Tim ‘figuring out his sexuality’ before now. Wasn’t he in a long standing on again off again ship with Steph? They could have dropped some crumbs way back then. Made it appear as if it’s always been on the radar so to speak. You don’t just wake up one day in your twenties and realize you could go either way. On some level you’ve always known. Had inner thoughts and confusing struggles as you learn to accept who/what you are. But I could be wrong.
@the_silkworm: well I’m not bi my brother is and I agree , he’s told me about the struggle of figuring himself out, and this is by no means the best queer representation, but Tim is a pretty big character so i’m kinda excited to see where this will lead
@mustafa-28: I’m conflicted. On one hand I want it to succeed and produce some great new story dynamics. But on the other I want it to fail so companies stop taking established characters and slapping new paint on them as opposed to building brand new and diverse characters that need the work put into them to be successful
@achillesspawn: i kinda see what you mean but the way you put it was distasteful
@the_silkworm: I agree with you completely. If being bi becomes a proper part of Tim’s character in every iteration, this and furthermore would be the dream, but if it becomes a seldom mentioned trivia fact, it’s definitely just for representation points
@mcflicky: my reaction too lol
@achillesspawn: I get it, as i said to another user
@the_silkworm: I agree with you completely. If being bi becomes a proper part of Tim’s character in every iteration, this and furthermore would be the dream, but if it becomes a seldom mentioned trivia fact, it’s definitely just for representation points
I guess we’ll just have to wait and watch
This is stupid. They shouldn't change established characters like this. I'd feel the same if the roles were reversed. THe whole argument that it takes time to come out is BS. Why because todays world is much different then it was in the past. You'd get more heat for being against something like that than being ok with it. More importantly when you have a created character where you have access to their inner thoughts, this wouldn't be hidden from us. Where you have access to knowledge about the character that even the character couldn't admit to himself. You can't use the coming out argument. It doesn't work. We're in his head and heart. Just leave the characters as they are.
You want representation create new characters. You'll get your representation and not piss off fans for dumb and unnecessary changes.
@dernman: agreed
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