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#1 Edited by Life_Without_Progress (14957 posts) - - Show Bio

My opinion on Maul's demise in a quick Kurosawa-ish battle is probably going to be an unpopular one but I found Maul's demise to be ironically poetic because, let's be honest, even though Darth Maul probably had the most compelling (and my personal favorite) character arc in both the Clone Wars and Rebels series, His role in the story was now irrelevant to what will happen in the events of the original trilogy. By this point in time, He was just a crazy & weak old man that was way past his prime and has no army at his side, trying to settle an old grudge that didn't matter anymore while the rest of the universe was at war. That and the obvious time constraints would obviously result in him dying in such a way.

What about you, fellow viners? What are your thoughts on Maul's death in Star Wars: Rebels?

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#2 Edited by LordWhiskers (731 posts) - - Show Bio

Might wanna edit the title to something like "Opinion on Mauls Fate in SW Rebels" or "Reaction to Maul v. Obi Wan" just for spoiler purposes. As for me...honestly.

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#3 Posted by SirFizzWhizz (33469 posts) - - Show Bio

It was pathetic and poorly done.

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#4 Posted by AlexTheBoss (9251 posts) - - Show Bio
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#6 Posted by the_wspanialy (1886 posts) - - Show Bio

A pathetic end for a pathetic character (I mean TCW nad Rebel Maul). I loved it.

Seriously though, it's about time he died. Since TCW Maul was the ultimate cockroach and cash cow of Star Wars franchise.

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#7 Posted by r2datu (1226 posts) - - Show Bio

Just an aside, I haven't watched much of Rebels but man, is all the fight choreography like that brief exchange? Because that was so slick. One of my main problems with Clone Wars (which I loved) was that the saber battles didn't really have any weight behind the strikes but in that brief exchange, each of the three strikes looked beautiful.

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#8 Posted by Hypnos0929 (4941 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm pissed beyond belief. I mean seriously he lost in 3 moves? He's been through hell and back and 3 moves kills him? They should have at least it a more grand scene for life long enemies. There wasn't even a single use of the force. There's no way Kenobi past his prime could stop Maul who was still able to move just as fast as before.

Rebels is pathetic

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#9 Posted by cruelestashley (4202 posts) - - Show Bio

Despite how short it was, I think it made sense since Maul was wandering the desert for so long, and was also clouded by his emotions. Plus it was far more realistic in terms of fencing--and Ben baiting him into making the same move he made against Qui-Gon was a fitting end.

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#10 Edited by Discipulus (1794 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought the delivery was great, and it really isn't so detrimental to Maul. He was outsmarted by Obi-Wan - an opponent who had a unique insight into his strengths and weaknesses - and almost certainly would have put up a much better fight against any other Jedi.

I'm glad we weren't given some drawn-out duel full of acrobatics and complex techniques; it would have quite severely contradicted the style of Obi-Wan in 'A New Hope'.

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#11 Edited by Redsayn (342 posts) - - Show Bio

I absolutely adored this. The fight was perfect and a solid representation of Kenobi's style/character, and the way the scene was delivered was fantastic. The voice actors perfectly put across the emotions, the choreography was amazing, and the music fit perfectly.

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#12 Posted by foxerdes (6812 posts) - - Show Bio

Pathetic.

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#13 Posted by kidchipotle (15756 posts) - - Show Bio

Padawan Kenobi sliced Sith apprentice Maul, who killed a Jedi master, in half after an epic duel, so it makes sense that Jedi Master Kenobi defeated Maul so easily. I love Maul and am sad to see him go but the battle just showed how much more superior Kenobi had become since episode 1. This is why he is considered one of the best Jedi of all time.

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#14 Posted by RabumAlal (3574 posts) - - Show Bio

Obi the Boss.

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#15 Posted by lvenger (33023 posts) - - Show Bio

On the one hand I like Obi bossing his way all over Maul in 3 moves but on the other hand it's a disappointing let down for a duel that was hyped up for months. Fans were looking forward to this for ages and it lasts about as long as a single gif.

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#16 Posted by SirDrProfessor (1672 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

On the one hand I like Obi bossing his way all over Maul in 3 moves but on the other hand it's a disappointing let down for a duel that was hyped up for months. Fans were looking forward to this for ages and it lasts about as long as a single gif.

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#17 Posted by Necromancer76 (1909 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm disappointed. It's true Maul needed to go because he was unneeded. But they can't advertise it like they did. Suicide Squad had the same problem. Rebels advertised a huge epic duel between them, and then it just ends in seconds. They can't do that.

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#18 Posted by JasonHawke (3082 posts) - - Show Bio
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#19 Posted by Farkam (9974 posts) - - Show Bio

Maul's death was pretty touching, if you ask me...

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#20 Posted by AlexTheBoss (9251 posts) - - Show Bio

@farkam: Ya, his death was fine, it was the anti climactic fight that was the problem.

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#21 Posted by AlexTheBoss (9251 posts) - - Show Bio

@kidchipotle: Kenobi won their first duel due to Maul's overconfidence. Kenobi shouldn't be that much better than Maul, but they wanted the fight to be like a samurai fight.

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#22 Posted by Azronger (2720 posts) - - Show Bio

It was shit.

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#23 Posted by deactivated-59c0eef934dfe (918 posts) - - Show Bio

Perhaps the greatest thing to come from Rebels.

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#24 Posted by StormShadow_X (12968 posts) - - Show Bio

People like Antoine giving in credit because it being a psyhological battle more then anything..I can agree with that but it was hyped up to be dealt with in thre moves.

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#25 Posted by YousufKhan1212 (2088 posts) - - Show Bio

The death was OK and the theme of why it happened like that made sense, but the fight was disappointing, and Maul dying at the hands of Vader would have satisfied me a lot more than Kenobi.

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#26 Posted by Chubbs (531 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked the encounter. Could there have been a big lightsaber duel? Yeah, but to me this was just as satisfying.

Regarding the actual fight, I think it was a combination of Kenobi outwitted him, Maul underestimated him, and Kenobi having a purpose in life whereas Maul did not.

At this point Maul seemed to be someone who was driven purely by his hatred, specifically his hatred of Palpatine and Kenobi. After putting the holocrons together I'm sure Maul knew he was not going to be the one to get his revenge on Palpatine, so any further attempt to kill him would likely just result in his death. However, he learned Kenobi was still alive. His hope of killing Kenobi was really the only thing he was living for at this point. Kenobi had a much better reason to live than Maul.

I also like how Maul doesn't really seem to blame Kenobi for his demise, as his last words are of the Chosen One avenging him and Kenobi.

In a strange way it was in Maul's best interest to be killed by Kenobi, as Kenobi was protecting the person who would bring Palpatine down (well technically Anakin was the actual Chosen One, but Luke was the one who brought him back to the lightside which is when Anakin fulfilled his destiny).

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#27 Posted by Killerwasp (15889 posts) - - Show Bio

This was a joke and needs to be redone idc if maul dies or lives but this was stupid period. Anyone who knows both characters would understand this wasn't a duel this was a "parent beating a child"

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#28 Posted by LordWhiskers (731 posts) - - Show Bio
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#29 Posted by DarthAznable (16928 posts) - - Show Bio

Maul should have never been brought back in the first place.

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#30 Posted by SirFizzWhizz (33469 posts) - - Show Bio

Maul should have never been brought back in the first place.

I agree with this as well.

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#31 Posted by Saberscar223 (1665 posts) - - Show Bio

@r2datu: did you see Vader Vs Ashoka

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#32 Posted by LordWhiskers (731 posts) - - Show Bio

Maul should have never been brought back in the first place.

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#33 Posted by AlexTheBoss (9251 posts) - - Show Bio

@darthaznable said:

Maul should have never been brought back in the first place.

I agree with this as well.

I have mixed feelings about this. He was clearly supposed to die in ep 1, but I do think he had some great moments after being brought back, and I actually felt bad for him when he died. Plus he is one of my favorite characters, so more Maul is always fine with me. Though I do think they made some poor choices with him. My number one disappointment was the anti climactic duel before he died, not to mention how his final episode barely had him in it. To kill off such an iconic character it should of been done in the season finale, gave him more screen time, and a better final battle to finish off his story.

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#34 Posted by kiba (1659 posts) - - Show Bio

Should have left him dead after TPM

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#35 Posted by LordWhiskers (731 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss: one of my main issues was him trying to persuade Space Aladdin to join him 24/7. Ezra is some sheltered student of a former Padawan. Any Zabrak, especially a former sith assasin would have laughed and disemboweled him the moment they laid eyes on him.

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#36 Posted by AlexTheBoss (9251 posts) - - Show Bio

@lordwhiskers: I especially didn't like the line when he basically said he wanted Ezra to be his brother, lol.

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#37 Posted by LordWhiskers (731 posts) - - Show Bio

@lordwhiskers: I especially didn't like the line when he basically said he wanted Ezra to be his brother, lol.

yup lol. If anything it would've made more sense for Maul to try and find a way to undermine Sidious and die doing that. Instead he meets the Rebels twice and kills none of them. I would've gladly had Maul kill Sabine or Zeb for some degree of emotional value.

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#38 Posted by AlexTheBoss (9251 posts) - - Show Bio

@lordwhiskers: I really just wanted one more epic fight with Maul.

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#39 Posted by SirFizzWhizz (33469 posts) - - Show Bio

@lordwhiskers: I really just wanted one more epic fight with Maul.

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I wish he was killed after Son of Dathomire myself.

Funny how Ahsoka had a huge battle with Vader, and Maul lost in three moves to Ben lol.

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#40 Posted by jashro44 (44023 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked it.

@r2datu said:

Just an aside, I haven't watched much of Rebels but man, is all the fight choreography like that brief exchange? Because that was so slick. One of my main problems with Clone Wars (which I loved) was that the saber battles didn't really have any weight behind the strikes but in that brief exchange, each of the three strikes looked beautiful.

Fioni said he talked to actual sword masters when creating this fight which is why the duel is so short. Probably why the choreography is like that as well.

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#41 Posted by AlexTheBoss (9251 posts) - - Show Bio

@sirfizzwhizz:

I wish he was killed after Son of Dathomire myself.

I like where and how he was killed. I just don't like how short the duel was myself.

Funny how Ahsoka had a huge battle with Vader, and Maul lost in three moves to Ben lol.

They love to disrespect Maul. Remember when he got one shot by a blind Kanan? lol

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Fioni said he talked to actual sword masters when creating this fight which is why the duel is so short. Probably why the choreography is like that as well.

The problem is no other saber duel in star wars is like that, so making in like a real life fight, just makes it look bad compared to other star wars fights and doesn't fit with the continuity. I completely see where he was coming from, but come on, you can't all of a sudden decide you want to change how lightsaber battles work, lol.

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#42 Posted by LordWhiskers (731 posts) - - Show Bio

@sirfizzwhizz: At least SOD would've been more cathartic bringing his conflict with Sidious and having him die with his mom Talzin. I would've preferred that to this. Hell I would've preferred SOD to be animated with the rest of CW like Dark Disciple for example.

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#43 Posted by LordWhiskers (731 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss: That gif is bringing back Emo Anakin memories

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#44 Posted by Hush114 (1049 posts) - - Show Bio

@cruelestashley: i agree with you it was a fitting end. It was true to how knowledgeable and experienced obi wan was as a lightsaber duelist.

He defeated anakin in a similar way. Anakin became over confident and tried using obi wans move, the same one obi wan used to defeat maul in tpm. I like how obi wan learns from each duel and uses his triumphs and mistakes to make him better down the line.

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#45 Posted by MetalJimmor (4248 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44:

I actually really liked the duel for this reason. It was fast, intense, and over almost as soon as it began.

Though I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little let down. I was expecting an epic final battle in typical Star Wars fashion.

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#46 Posted by SirFizzWhizz (33469 posts) - - Show Bio

@sirfizzwhizz: At least SOD would've been more cathartic bringing his conflict with Sidious and having him die with his mom Talzin. I would've preferred that to this. Hell I would've preferred SOD to be animated with the rest of CW like Dark Disciple for example.

How dare you! If they animated Season 7, we would not have the awesome Rebels we have now heathen!!!

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#47 Posted by jashro44 (44023 posts) - - Show Bio


@jashro44:

Fioni said he talked to actual sword masters when creating this fight which is why the duel is so short. Probably why the choreography is like that as well.

The problem is no other saber duel in star wars is like that, so making in like a real life fight, just makes it look bad compared to other star wars fights and doesn't fit with the continuity. I completely see where he was coming from, but come on, you can't all of a sudden decide you want to change how lightsaber battles work, lol.

Well this is also because Maul and Obi-wan also know each other so well so they were both playing the duel out in there heads. Its a classic samurai trope where Samurais can have duels by just staring each other down.

@jashro44:

I actually really liked the duel for this reason. It was fast, intense, and over almost as soon as it began.

Though I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little let down. I was expecting an epic final battle in typical Star Wars fashion.

Yea. I can see why some are let down but I appreciate the thought they put into the duel.

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#48 Posted by freesid_stf123 (449 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought it was cool. I like what they were going for in the duel and the amount of detail they put into making the fight. Not gonna lie though, I laughed hard when I first saw it because I didn't understand what was going on at the time.

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#49 Edited by AlexTheBoss (9251 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44:

Well this is also because Maul and Obi-wan also know each other so well so they were both playing the duel out in there heads. Its a classic samurai trope where Samurais can have duels by just staring each other down.

I feel like they could of accomplished the exact same thing by just making the fight ten seconds of quick calculated strikes instead of literally 2 seconds. They are force users, it would make sense they could predict and calculate more moves than us regular people. And much more people would be satisfied with something like that.

I thought it was cool. I like what they were going for in the duel and the amount of detail they put into making the fight. Not gonna lie though, I laughed hard when I first saw it because I didn't understand what was going on at the time.

And this is why I think it would of been better if the fight was just a few seconds longer. It would of given more people more time to comprehend in the first time viewing the fight.

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#50 Edited by ursaber (6222 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought it was:

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