Thor Ragnarok Reviews are out

The movie will be a soild 7

To MCU Thor fanboys the movie will cause they're pants explode dark days are looming for the vine

>expecting something different from capeshit

C'mon now, I'm sure the movie will be fine for what it set out to be.

@revan2424: my point is that we are all part of the audience that would like a somewhat accurate comic book movie

this is wasting both Ragnarok and World War Hulk in a very similar war to DC wasting Death of Superman

@mrnoital: @thelastdragonborn: @farkam:

Dont Trust IMDB just yet it only has 6 people and one of them gave it a 1/10 and complained that ragnarok wasnt dark enough. Go read those reviews first Guys

RT now posting critic reviews and have it at 97%/7.8 rating. Which will prob project to about 90%/7.6 which is pretty damn good.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/thor_ragnarok_2017/

Hard to say it wasted these stories without having seen the movie yet.

@saberscar223: I read a couple reviews, none of them on IMDB

the problem is that the comedy is the top praised aspect on a movie based on 2 serious storylines

someone said you don't have to wait more than 5 minutes for a joke

and I find that disappointing for a movie based on both World War Hulk and Ragnarok

@spambot: true, but going by the reviews, its not hard to say that they didn't get the movie to be comic accurate

Well at this point i don't expect a faithful comic adaption of any of it. I'm just saying that its hard to say that means they wasted the stories by not doing so. Movies and comics are two different mediums. The idea that every comic story would translate to a great movie just isn't accurate.

I hear there's a joke literally right after a huge, pivotal scene. My excitement for this movie went down a bit after reading that.

@spambot: true, but once again, going by the reviews it doesn't even seem close, like they weren't going for a similar tone at all, which they clearly weren't cause they got a comedy director to make some very serious storylines

I don't think you can waste DoS lol it sucked.

@buttersdaman000: wow, really? right then?

that will probably be worse than Star Lords dance off bit

Well, as a comic fan I don't see cbms with the expectation of them doing faithful adaptions of comic stories. Its just unrealistic to expect that imo. Sometimes it happens but even then they don't always turn into great movies. I'm a big Thor fan but my main thing is whether they do the characters justice more so than the stories they may be basing the movie upon.

Yeah, but for some people these movies are comedies first and foremost so I guess the Ragnorok joke will be just as divisive...

@spambot: I don't expect them to get everything to be comic accurate, but I do expect them to get the spirit of the story right

I expect them to try, not to take a crap on the source material

its like taking a Stephen Kind book, and turning a serious horror into a chick flick

creative liberties can be taken, but at least try to get something similar that represents the original story

and from what I read Thor was straight up the pretend character he was in those comedy shorts where he had a roommate

This is fiction and literally never happens.

It's early screenings that are dismissed and the same is done for Marvel movies. These are critic reviews which are different.

@mrnoital: There's a difference between taking a crap on source material and simply not making it exactly like the comic though. Hela seems to be done just fine based on what I've seen. Obviously mcu Thor has more a sense of humor than comic Thor but for the most part I think Hemsworth sort of pulls it off. Just have to see it then I'll be able to say whether I liked it.

@spambot: from the trilers she seems like a badass serious villain, from the reviews she's just as funny as Thor, who is apparently funnier than ever

so, whatever

@spambot:

MCU Thor and comic Thor are only similar in name.

It goes a bit beyond name but at the end of the day its a movie interpretation of the character. Its very subjective to try and draw a line in the sand as to how similar they are since comic Thor's personality can vary based upon who is writing him.

How so? Thor has literally become flanderized.

I wish more people could apply the bolded to other movie universes though :/ lol

I agree with DCEU often being overrated, but MCU is definitely overrated.

@saberscar223: Hm? It has 800+ reviews

"Fun" isn't a dirty word. It's also not a word that means "not art" or "lacking drama." And the word "funny" likewise doesn't negate artistic integrity or drama. Anyone who thinks these words are contrary to great filmmaking or "true art" simply doesn't know what they're talking about, and should probably stop trying to discuss cinema. Humor, comedy, and satire not only have a long and glorious history in art and expression, they are in fact very hard to do correctly. Writing comedy and directing comedy is every bit as difficult, if not more so, than straightforward drama in many ways. And to whatever extent fun and comedy in films can also serve to purely entertain sometimes and to add levity to situations, that's not bad nor limiting of art either.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2017/10/19/review-thor-ragnarok-promises-a-grand-eccentric-vision-for-marvels-future/#4a4ce521fc3a

Never had a doubt with Taika Waititi. He's just on a roll right now.

All I hear about is this movie being funny, that really seems to be the focus of everything I’ve heard. That’s great, I do go to the theater to have a good time after all, be it a fun movie or serious one, but what about the performances and story?...I hope Taika focused on those to as much as making the film funny

You'd need to elaborate on why you feel the bolded is true about him but his personality does vary by the writer. Under Fraction's run for instance he was kind of a dumb brute, under Aaron he was more just a generic hero(not including OKT or young Thor who was kind of an idiot) until he became unworthy and became emo/hobo Thor. Under JMS he was very serious and more stoic. Simonson's Thor was sort of happy go lucky but also came across as having a certain degree of wisdom. It varies.

Its at 97, prob gon go down to 91

He's become flanderized because the humorous aspect of the character has seemingly overtaken all the other aspects of the character. He's more of a goofball then anything based on the trailers and clips i've seen.

Fair enough. Writers do take more liberties with Thor, and less people seem to care about that than with DC characters.

ok, I thought you were referring to comic Thor. I semi agree on the humor aspect possibly going too far but I'm not sure I'd say that about all his mcu appearances as a generalization. I think Hemsworth just prefers a comedic Thor and Waititi seemed ready to indulge him in Ragnarok. It can be done in a low key way though without compromising his entire character or the movie.

Which is exactly why he's been flanderized.

Better to have a humorous Thor who is still capable and badass without his hammer. Than an emo, stoic who is always depressed and self hating, talking about how he is not worthy and is not as good as he was before, will the narrative keeps telling us that gods are terrible and that Jane is the best and is worthy because... Damn, 3 years and Aaron still hasn't said anything about why she can wield the hammer.

I'll have to see Ragnarok before I'd say whether the humor side imbalanced the other sides of him. In Avengers and AoU I think it was balanced out enough.

lol true shit right here

@deltahuman:

I was talking strictly business PoV ;) I mean, for Marvel, as long as there are more viewers, they're the bigger winners.

I felt burned a little by MCU as of recent so I'm picky with which flick of theirs I'm going to watch in cinema. Last Nov (damn, almost a year already) IIRC was dry so I went to Strange and well, while I don't want my money back, I certainly left the theater with a feeling of "a lot to be desired". GotG 2 and Homecoming I only considered if my sister should leave my nephew with me, so I'd take him to those as a pastime, and since the dates never synced, it never worked out between us I guess, still, I can totally see what you mean here. For Ragnarok, I was all hype in the beginning just by concept alone. I'm a big fan of the Thor Disassembled Ragnarok story, so having even some elements of it made me excited. Then they also announced they will be adapting Planet Hulk there, while a missed opportunity for a potential standalone Hulk movie to happen, with the whole license problems, it grew on me as a concept eventually. But now they are announcing that those two pretty hardcore and tragic storylines I like so much are going to get comedied because some snowflakes can't handle darker tones? But that's how the freaking original stories are supposed to be! Can't say I'm excited still. I know I should be judging it for what it is, but they are misrepresenting the stories I actually like...

@rbt: IMBD is filled with trolls, this is a known fact by now...I can share some articles with you.

Thread got salty real quick.

Iron Man 3 is one of MCU's finest. As soon as people get over their butthurt agenda that the Mandarin wasn't who they wanted to be. I see more complaining about that than Leto's Joker (which was one of the worst iterations the character). A great deal of people didn't even know Mandarin was a character until Iron Man 3 hit. I feel like people just hate, because its common to hate it now when anyone with half a thought would know Iron Man 2 was one of the worst MCU films.

@solid_snake97: RIP Harry potter.

On God.

@thor_parker82: thank you for sharing that. Has no one seen Breaking Bad? Comedy can be a great storytelling tool.

Also lol at people saying this film is getting good reviews because Marvel has a formula. Have they even read the reviews? Because it's being praised as a breathe of fresh air and something different. Or is it only a different movie if everyone looks doom and gloom and people die? Because we all loved that Batman v Superman movie.

I stopped reading after the bolded line cause no, it was simply a terrible twist, terribly done, and the replacement villain was horrible

@mrnoital: Thanks for your one sided input. I can see why people love having discussions with you.

@thelastdragonborn: it still only has 5

edit: 6 now

@monsterstomp: and you're clearly an open minded joy

@mrnoital: Obviously.

Yeah I don't care about ritten anyway don't trust there opinions, mine is different mostly anyway. I prefer to watch and judge for myself

Well said.

I mean, I am worried that the movie won´t take itself serious when it needs to, it is the death of the asgardian civilization after all, but these comments judging the movie before they even see it and saying the MCU "formula" sucks are ridiculous.