The Sandman (2022) Official Discussion Thread

The Sandman (2022)

A little late, but here is the official discussion thread for the Netflix series The Sandman.

Just finished watching the show last night. It was truly something else. The visuals were magnificent. I expected nothing impressive about the show at first, but after seeing the excellence engraved in there as a whole, I must admit that this is the best show of 2022.

Such an average TV series. The Sandman is the greatest comic book run IMO, but I found the adaptation pretty mid. Tom Sturridge, Boyd Holbrook and David Thewlis were great as Dream, Corinthian and John Dee respectively, but the series couldn’t capture the charm and complexity of the comic. I also disliked the changes Gaiman did with Lucifer, Lucien, Constantine and Death. As expected, I found Gwendoline Christie’s performance as Lucifer pretty dull. Jenna Coleman’s Constantine was nothing like John Constantine in the comics. I also think Patton Oswalt was miscasted as Matthew. They should’ve found someone better. Some of these changes were unnecessary just for the sake of diversity. It’s a 6/10 series for me.

This show was top notch.

This show feels like a classical music, absolutely majestic. Couldn't stop watching once I started. 9/10

@darkvanderling said:

That was one of my complaints, too. I didn't enjoy the performance of Lucifer Morningstar. Although Tom Ellis doesn't fit the role of a mildly serious character, he would've portrayed the character better. Gwendoline Christie didn't have the cunningness and threatening traits of Lucifer.

The show was really good particularly the fifth episode but it didn't captured too much grittness. I guess they didn't wanted to be too much graphic. I was hoping they would capture more visuals of hell but rewatching the episode yesterday i realised that was a underwhelming episode. I guess i was expecting too much visuals to capture the fantasy but by the end i understood i was expecting to be more visually spectale which doesnt happens with low budget for Netflix shows. Acting was really good but like I said the third episode was underwhelming including acting. But it has nothing to do with diversity.

@darkvanderling: A lot of the things that has happened on Eternals including Ikaris wasnt faithful to comics. All the visuals were also pretty average for such high budget film. But you still liked it. Not Sandman

@vishop_: Eternals wasn’t anywhere woke, the acting was a lot better and the visuals were far superior. The Sandman TV series definitely should’ve been way better considering Gaiman, who wrote the bloody comic was one of the co producer. It was a disappointment to me. The writing and acting was absolutely average except for few performances. Now this is if you exclude all that forced LGBTQ and gender swap rubbish. Sandman adaptation was basically woke on steroids. I anyways give it 6/10. It’s an average show with good performances from Tom Sturridge, David Thewlis and Boyd Holbrook. Seems like Gaiman can’t adapt his works to live action, considering even the American Gods adaptation was average and he was involved in it.

@darkvanderling: Oh i remember now that you were butthurt for Jon Kent being bisexual. I don't know why I even care to talk with you about this. Since this show or even the comic book also has woke stuff from the start if not gender swap. Take care bye

Am I the only one who thinks Lucifer from that CW show I've never watched would be much better casting? That guy fits Lucifer perfectly.

@heiqn said:

Tom Ellis would've done a far better job portraying Lucifer. Casting Christie never made sense to me.

Who knows. His Lucifer is a joke without any complexity.

Overall I enjoyed the show. Very decent show.

But they went overboard with the race swap. 80% of cast are black people. Which is funny, since they preach "diversity".

Death actress was decent, but I still prefer white actress playing her, since she is white in the comics. Same for Rose Walker and a decent amount of others.

Making Lucifer female is a bizarre choice as well. I don't feel intimidated by the character at all. Actress just doing an okay job.

Highlights of the show are Dream, Corinthian and Desire.

But the cult of serial killers was pretty dumb. Serial killers have a convention each year in a famous hotel. Hundreds of them. And nobody knows about it? Government completely clueless and never put an inside man in these conventions? Lol.

Really liked the show, looking forward to a season 2.

Terrible show.

I really liked the show and I'm looking forward to another season if it means we get to see more of Lucifer or the other Endless. A small thing I am a bit upset with is how they replaced John with Johanna. I really like John and I think he would be more of an interesting portrayal rather than Johanna who kinda fell flat for me. But in the end it's not like it was that important since it was just a single episode.

Yeah, the sex change is dumb and annoying. Johanna is pretty boring as well. Would be much better to see Matt Ryan's Constantine.

Why they go so far to destroy a source material character? Changing their race, sex and many other things.

Lucifer was mediocre as well.

The Sandman was Pretty Good I Guess. I liked the last Three Episodes a Lot and that one with Morpheus and Death was Good too. It was a couple of them that almost lost me with lack of action but Overall this was a Success.

The Snoozeman 😴

pretty great

hard disagree tbh

Great stuff. Series of the year for me so far

I have only watched the first 6 episodes so far, but am absolutely loving it.

@stevestark: death was literally the best part of the show wdym?

This is such a weird criticism considering 80% of characters in the show are meant to be metaphysical/abstract beings that can present however they want to... but if we jump to conclusions now and call you names it would look like an attack against you when you know damn well this is not a normal thing to say or be concerned about 🤨.

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Yeah I know about death outside of the sandman lol, I did like this version tho, it was such a cool take on the character and the first half of that episode was amazing, but yeah I loved desire to, thought I was gonna see them more but they didn't have much screentime, not even an episode of them being a big part of like how death had, can't wait to see more from both in the second season!.

Haven't watched it yet, but I really doubt it's as good as House of The Dragon.

@stevestark:

"Diversity" shouldn't ruin the source material. I bet you would feel different if Blade suddenly became white. Or if Scarlet Witch suddenly became a man.Double standards as usual. If you want to see a diverse cast so much then create a new universe where everyone is gay or black for all I care. Don't ruin existing ones.

Yikes, the bigotry jumped out uhn?

Anyways I'm done with you, I know who I'm talking to now, Black death >>>>>> your wants, Female Lucifer>>>>> your wants , Gay Corinthian>>>>> your wants, stay pressed or whatever lmao, the end.

I don't get why the race and gender of the characters who are beyond the scope of a particular race of scope is seen as such a big deal. I can understand if that change impact something fundamental about the character.

It’s just trying to find ways to dislike a show. A small thing. Very small, in fact.

I didn't expect to enjoy the show as much as I did. I honestly can't wait for season 2 to come out.

You're not alone in that. The dude was phenomenal.

This is one of the best LA CB shows I've ever seen. Definitely tiers above MCU D+ shows or CW shows.

Since you bumped this

We are getting a second season too yay!