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#1 Posted by depinhom (13506 posts) - - Show Bio

In The Avengers, Loki comes to Earth as a pawn of Thanos' and uses the tesseract to open a portal to allow the Chitauri army to come and I guess conquer the world. But we learn in Infinity War that Thanos' goal for a very long time (and before The Avengers) was to collect all six Infinity Stones so he can wipe out half the universe. Loki took possession of the Space Gem in the first five minutes of the film; so what was the point of the Chitauri invasion? Is there a reason why Thanos wanted to wipe out or control soem random planet when he could have just take the stone and made things so much easier for himself?

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#2 Posted by jayc1324 (26421 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think Thanos wanted to have Loki take over Earth. Loki said he wanted to do it to rule over humans as a god, which is something that is in character for him, I don't think Thanos made him do that.

But also the Chitauri was given to Loki to help fight the Avengers. Loki knew they wouldn't just let him take the stone.

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#3 Edited by Amcu (16274 posts) - - Show Bio

Loki wanted to rule earth. Or at least that's what he said. So Thanos gave him an army to take earth and the Mind gem to help him, in return for the Space gem. Loki didn't uphold his side of the deal though.

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#4 Posted by depinhom (13506 posts) - - Show Bio

@amcu: So in trying to get another stone, Thanos gave Loki one stone and let him use the other to aid in the invasion which failed leaving Thanos with zero? The whole invasion was just a way for Thanos to appease Loki?

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#5 Posted by Amcu (16274 posts) - - Show Bio

@depinhom said:

@amcu: So in trying to get another stone, Thanos gave Loki one stone and let him use the other to aid in the invasion which failed leaving Thanos with zero? The whole invasion was just a way for Thanos to appease Loki?

Yeah. It probably should be better explained but that seems to be the case from what I'm aware of.

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#6 Posted by deactivated-5bc2c7b81b701 (421 posts) - - Show Bio

He wanted to rule Earth, so Thanos gave him an army and the mind stone in order to do so, and in return Loki was supposed to retrieve the space stone, but failed, and cost Thanos the Chitauri and the mind stone.

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#7 Posted by depinhom (13506 posts) - - Show Bio

@amcu: Makes it all sound really silly, to be honest, but thank you.

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#8 Posted by Heatforce (5919 posts) - - Show Bio

Pis on Thanos' part. Loki wanting to take over earth is logical though.

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#9 Edited by depinhom (13506 posts) - - Show Bio

Pis on Thanos' part. Loki wanting to take over earth is logical though.

Agreed.

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#10 Posted by webinyoureye11 (5523 posts) - - Show Bio

He gave Loki the mindstone to help him defeat the forces of earth and gain the space stone. It was essentially a bet. He risked one stone in order to win another and lost.

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#11 Posted by GateOfBabylon (3697 posts) - - Show Bio

@amcu said:

Loki wanted to rule earth. Or at least that's what he said. So Thanos gave him an army to take earth and the Mind gem to help him, in return for the Space gem. Loki didn't uphold his side of the deal though.

He wanted to rule Earth, so Thanos gave him an army and the mind stone in order to do so, and in return Loki was supposed to retrieve the space stone, but failed, and cost Thanos the Chitauri and the mind stone.

He gave Loki the mindstone to help him defeat the forces of earth and gain the space stone. It was essentially a bet. He risked one stone in order to win another and lost.

These.

Kinda explains why Thanos is so pissed with Loki.

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#12 Posted by LEGACY6364 (7441 posts) - - Show Bio

MCU Thanos is pretty stupid.

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#13 Posted by samhmd1 (712 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos just wanted the Space Stone, he didn't care about the rest of Earth.

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#14 Posted by Bandedessinee (454 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Thanos grand strategy was get all the stones on Earth so that it would be easier to collect them all at once. It seems like it's more than a coincidence the space stone, mind stone, time stone, reality stone were on Earth at some time.

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#15 Posted by depinhom (13506 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Thanos grand strategy was get all the stones on Earth so that it would be easier to collect them all at once. It seems like it's more than a coincidence the space stone, mind stone, time stone, reality stone were on Earth at some time.

That's fair, actually.

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#16 Edited by Alavanka (2444 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos also wanted to wipe out half of earth. You saw in infinity war how Thanos divided Gamora's people into 2 groups and executed one side? That's what he's been doing to a bunch of other planets throughout the universe. It stands to reason that had he conquered earth, he would have rounded everyone up and executed half of them.

The infinity stones was a long game. Thanos couldn't go for the stones himself until he knew the location of the soul stone, because everyone in the universe would gang up on him. He would have just gotten 5 stones, and be stuck in an endless war with everyone in the universe. Him watching the recording of Gamora talking to Nebula how she found the map to the soul stone was what prompt him to move in Infinity War. So to avoid raising suspicion, he got Loki to take possession of the space stone for him.

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#17 Posted by Emanresu_20 (2734 posts) - - Show Bio

As many others said before me Loki had his own agenda. Also 4 of the six stones were on Earth so conquering Earth would have been huge for Loki

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#18 Posted by CosmicMuffin (476 posts) - - Show Bio

The Other stated that they underestimated the humans in the end credit scene. I bet Thanos thought it would be literally impossible for any human to be able to take down an asgardian God with the Mind gem and the Chitauri army. Probably just a bit of cockiness on his part.

He has also been shown to be a man of his word. He was going to destroy Xandar for Ronan, he was going to let Loki rule earth, and he spared Tony’s life for the Time gem. He probably likes helping out other people, because he compares their goals with his.

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#19 Posted by Mr_Shazam0920 (4185 posts) - - Show Bio

@emanresu_20: I think it was only 3 stones on Earth. Mind, Space, and Time. Power was on Xandar, and the Reality was on Knowhere. Soul was I forget the name lol

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#20 Edited by biswaboxz (3642 posts) - - Show Bio

It's characterized view of Loki thinking humans are inferior to Asgardians therefore Asgardians should rule the Earth but neither his brother or his father wanted him to do that . Btw MCU Thanos was not Thanos(Marvel Universe) who has that madness of killing people will eventually succeed in winning his Lady Death's heart ........

In short MCU Thanos's character didn't clearly demonstrated his background not only due to it's inconsistency in each cameos of several MCU films but his background just doesn't make him the Mad Titan ...Only Brolin with his acting skills brought life to it's character

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#21 Posted by depinhom (13506 posts) - - Show Bio

@emanresu_20: I think it was only 3 stones on Earth. Mind, Space, and Time. Power was on Xandar, and the Reality was on Knowhere. Soul was I forget the name lol

The Soul was on Vormir, but wasn't the Reality with Malekith?

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#22 Posted by Mr_Shazam0920 (4185 posts) - - Show Bio

@depinhom: well, at the time of Avengers, the Relaity Stone was actually still hidden wherever King Borr put it.

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#23 Posted by Emanresu_20 (2734 posts) - - Show Bio

@mr_shazam0920: @mr_shazam0920:

The Space, Mind, and Time stones were on Earth at the time.

The Soul Stone was on Vormir, Reality Stone was given to the collector after Thor: The Dark World. The Power Stone was on a planet right before GoTG.

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#24 Posted by Stahlflamme (5694 posts) - - Show Bio

Loki wanted earth so Thanos gave him an army to do it in exchange for Loki getting him the stone.

He had more or less the same deal with Ronan for who he would have destroyed Xandar in excha ge for the power stone.

So the chitauri invasion was not something Thanos wanted it was just payment for Loki.