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Having been a huge fan of the Harry Potter franchise for almost two decades, I often find myself participating in heated debates on the Vine about the wizards and witches and their skills at dueling. Respect threads for Voldemort, Dumbledore and the boy who lived himself are not hard to find, but without the others? How about the ones who have their own badass achievements but don't receive as much praise as the main or more popular characters? In this thread, I shall spotllight some of these overlooked witches and wizards.

As with my other respect thread I will focus on the original source material, which are the books. Whenever appropriate, author's word directly from Rowling will be added if necessary.

Short note on the pics, I specifically chose for non-movie pictures since I want this thread to be associated with the books as much as possible. Also, the pics I choose tend to capture the look of the character as described by Rowling.

Bellatrix Lestrange

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Bellatrix Lestrange“She was a witch, as Harry knew, with prodigious skill and no conscience.”

Readers of the series weren't properly introduced to Bellatrix Lestrange until she made her escape from Azkaban in HP and the Order of the Phoenix, the prison she was send to for her involvement in the gruesome torture of the popular Longbottom aurors. However, this wicked witch immediately cemented her reputation as one of the most dangerous death eaters by killing her own cousin and Harry's godfather, Sirius Black, and being the only death eater to escape the Department of Mysteries. Later at the Second Battle of Hogwarts, she killed her own niece Tonks and was the last person standing at Voldemort's side before being taken down by Molly Weasley.

Dueling Skill

“Potter, you cannot win against me!” she cried. I was and am the Dark Lord’s most loyal servant, I learned the Dark Arts from him, and I know spells of such power that you, pathetic little boy, can never hope to compete."

Despite coming out of Azkaban even less sane than when she entered, Bellatrix did not lose a fraction of her proficiency as a duelist. With her track record of both defeating accomplished aurors and groups of trained wizards, she is one of the strongest witches in the series, Voldemort's best lieutenant and arguably the best duelist after the triumvirate of Voldie, Dumbledore and Grindelwald.

Book 5

At the Department of Mystery, she faced Tonks (a trained auror),

Tonks, still halfway up the tiered seats, was firing spells down at Bellatrix —

A jet of green light had narrowly missed Sirius; across the room Harry saw Tonks fall from halfway up the stone steps, her limp form toppling from stone seat to stone seat, and Bellatrix, triumphant, running back toward the fray.

Sirius Black (veteran Order of the Phoenix member and often hailed prodigy)

Only one couple were still battling, apparently unaware of the new arrival. Harry saw Sirius duck Bellatrix’s jet of red light: He was laughing at her. “Come on, you can do better than that!” he yelled, his voice echoing around the cavernous room. The second jet of light hit him squarely on the chest. The laughter had not quite died from his face, but his eyes widened in shock.

and Kingsley (a veteran auror with considerable dueling expertise) in a row and managed to beat all of them.

Kingsley had run forward to continue Sirius’s duel with Bellatrix.

There was a loud bang and a yell from behind the dais. Harry saw Kingsley, yelling in pain, hit the ground.

And just to add a cherry on top, as she flees the scene, she blocks a spell from Dumbledore himself, being the only person outside of Voldemort we ever see do this.

Bellatrix Lestrange turned and ran as Dumbledore whipped around. He aimed a spell at her but she deflected it. She was halfway up the steps now.

Now that is a gauntlet not many wizards could complete, yet Bellatrix did so in style.

Book 7

Bellatrix has no problem fighting multiple opponents at once. In fact, when she fights 4 snatchers in the Deathly Hallows, she casually stomps them.

Lucius froze, his index finger hovering over his own Mark. Bellatrix strode out of Harry’s limited line of vision. “What is that?” he heard her say. “Sword,” grunted an out-of-sight Snatcher. “Give it to me.” “It’s not yours, missus, it’s mine, I reckon I found it.” There was a bang and a flash of red light; Harry knew that the Snatcher had been Stunned. There was a roar of anger from his fellows: Scabior drew his wand. “What d’you think you’re playing at, woman?” “Stupefy!” she screamed, ”Stupefy!” They were no match for her, even thought there were four of them against one of her: She was a witch, as Harry knew, with prodigious skill and no conscience. They fell where they stood, all except Greyback, who had been forced into a kneeling position, his arms outstretched. Out of the corners of his eyes Harry saw Bellatrix bearing down upon the werewolf, the sword of Gryffindor gripped tightly in her hand, her face waxen.

During her final battle at Hogwarts, she battled 3 people at once just like her master Voldemort, and was holding her own. One of them was Hermione, a seventh-year student with a score of victories against adult death eaters.

Bellatrix was still fighting too, fifty yards away from Voldemort, and like her master she dueled three at once: Hermione, Ginny, and Luna, all battling their hardest, but Bellatrix was equal to them, and Harry’s attention was diverted as a Killing Curse shot so close to Ginny that she missed death by an inch.

Her duel with Molly Weasley was so intense it made the floor around them crack.

Harry watched with terror and elation as Molly Weasley’s wand slashed and twisted, and Bellatrix Lestrange’s smile faltered and became a snarl. Jets of light flew from both wands, the floor around the witches’ feet became hot and cracked; both women were fighting to kill.

Speed and reflexes

As a great duelist, Bellatrix had speed and reflexes to match her skill. Despite aiming at her back, Harry can't catch Bellatrix off guard and barely has enough time to take cover of his own spell bouncing back.

“Stupefy!” yelled Harry. He had edged right around to where the goblin stood beaming up at the now headless wizard and taken aim at her back as she peered around the fountain for him. She reacted so fast he barely had time to duck. “Protego!” The jet of red light, his own Stunning Spell, bounced back at him. Harry scrambled back behind the fountain, and one of the goblin’s ears went flying across the room.

Manages to react to Ron bursting into the room, spinning around and pointing her own wand, all in the time it takes Ron to cast a spell.

“And I think,” said Bellatrix’s voice, “we can dispose of the Mudblood. Greyback, take her if you want her.” “NOOOOOOOOOOOO!” Ron had burst into the drawing room; Bellatrix looked around, shocked; she turned her wand to face Ron instead— “Expelliarmus!” he roared, pointing Wormtail’s wand at Bellatrix, and hers flew into the air and was caught by Harry, who had sprinted after Ron.

Other

* Although Harry's cruciatus curse was arguably not at full strength, we still see her recover from it in record time and retaliate with a vengeance.

Hatred rose in Harry such as he had never known before. He flung himself out from behind the fountain and bellowed “Crucio!” Bellatrix screamed. The spell had knocked her off her feet, but she did not writhe and shriek with pain as Neville had — she was already on her feet again, breathless, no longer laughing. Harry dodged behind the golden fountain again — her counterspell hit the head of the handsome wizard, which was blown off and landed twenty feet away, gouging long scratches into the wooden floor.

* Bellatrix was skilled enough at occlumency to train Malfoy to the point where he could block out Snape, a master at legilimency

* She was accomplished enough at non-verbal magic to cast most of her spells, including ones like Avada Kedavra, without speaking a word.

* Due to her truly sadistic nature, unforgivable curses came very easy to her.

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#2 Posted by AlphaQ (6229 posts) - - Show Bio

Looking good so far.

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Antonin Dolohov

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"Antonin Dolohov, read the legend beneath a wizard with a long, pale, twisted face who was sneering up at Harry, convicted of the brutal murders of Gideon and Fabian Prewett"

A relatively unknown character, Dolohov might be one of the most underrated characters from the Harry Potter Franchise. As a longtime follower of Voldemort, he is a veteran from the first Wizarding War. During this time he murdered many muggles and non-supporters of the Dark Lord, including the Prewett brothers. After his escape from Azkaban he showed that the passing of years did nothing to harm his skill as a duelist.

“WE’VE GOT HIM!” yelled the Death Eater nearest Harry, “IN AN OFFICE OFF —” “Silencio!” cried Hermione, and the man’s voice was extinguished. He continued to mouth through the hole in his mask, but no sound came out; he was thrust aside by his fellow.

“Well done, Ha —” But the Death Eater Hermione had just struck dumb made a sudden slashing movement with his wand from which flew a streak of what looked like purple flame. It passed right across Hermione’s chest; she gave a tiny “oh!” as though of surprise and then crumpled onto the floor where she lay motionless. “HERMIONE!” Harry fell to his knees beside her as Neville crawled rapidly toward her from under the desk, his wand held up in front of him. The Death Eater kicked out hard at Neville’s head as he emerged — his foot broke Neville’s wand in two and connected with his face — Neville gave a howl of pain and recoiled, clutching his mouth and nose. Harry twisted around, his own wand held high, and saw that the Death Eater had ripped off his mask and was pointing his wand directly at Harry, who recognized the long, pale, twisted face from the Daily Prophet: Antonin Dolohov, the wizard who had murdered the Prewetts.

Despite being limited to non-verbal magic due to Hermione's curse, Dolohov manages to take her out of the fight with his signature spell, which might have been invented by him as we never see another person use it

The Death Eaters all halted, gazing at him. Some were panting as hard as he was. One was bleeding badly; Dolohov, freed of the full Body-Bind, was leering, his wand pointing straight at Harry’s face.

At this point, the death eaters are already fatigued, and Dolohov wounded. Then they face the Order of the Phoenix and Dolohov still performs quite well.

“Thanks!” Harry said to Neville, pulling him aside as Sirius and his Death Eater lurched past, dueling so fiercely that their wands were blurs. Then Harry’s foot made contact with something round and hard and he slipped — for a moment he thought he had dropped the prophecy, then saw Moody’s magic eye spinning away across the floor. Its owner was lying on his side, bleeding from the head, and his attacker was now bearing down upon Harry and Neville: Dolohov, his long pale face twisted with glee. “Tarantallegra!” he shouted, his wand pointing at Neville, whose legs went immediately into a kind of frenzied tap dance, unbalancing him and causing him to fall to the floor again. “Now, Potter". He made the same slashing movement with his wand that he had used on Hermione just as Harry yelled, “Protego!” Harry felt something streak across his face like a blunt knife but the force of it knocked him sideways, and he fell over Neville’s jerking legs, but the Shield Charm had stopped the worst of the spell.

Dolohov defeats Alastor Moody, a veteran auror, takes out Neville and manages to knock down Harry with his spell, even though Harry managed to throw up a shield in time.

Dolohov raised his wand again. “Accio Proph —” Sirius hurtled out of nowhere, rammed Dolohov with his shoulder, and sent him flying out of the way. The prophecy had again flown to the tips of Harry’s fingers but he had managed to cling to it. Now Sirius and Dolohov were dueling, their wands flashing like swords, sparks flying from their wand tips — Dolohov drew back his wand to make the same slashing movement he had used on Harry and Hermione. Springing up, Harry yelled, “Petrificus Totalus!” Once again, Dolohov’s arms and legs snapped together and he keeled over backward, landing with a crash on his back.

He then battles Sirius equally and was about to hit Black with the same spell he used before, although Harry interfered.

Book 7

In the Deathly Hallows, Dolohov faces our favorite trio and nearly beats them despite being outnumbered.

The great blond Death Eater was hit in the face by a jet of red light: He slumped sideways, unconscious. His companion, unable to see who had cast the spell, fired another at Ron: Shining black ropes flew from his wand-tip and bound Ron head to foot—the waitress screamed and ran for the door—Harry sent another Stunning Spell at the Death Eater with the twisted face who had tied up Ron, but the spell missed, rebounded on the window, and hit the waitress, who collapsed in front of the door. “Expulso!” bellowed the Death Eater, and the table behind which Harry was standing blew up: The force of the explosion slammed him into the wall and he felt his wand leave his hand as the Cloak slipped off him. “Petrificus Totalus!” screamed Hermione from out of sight, and the Death Eater fell forward like a statue to land with a crunching thud on the mess of broken china, table, and coffee. Hermione crawled out from underneath the bench, shaking bits of glass ashtray out of her hair and trembling all over.

Lastly, he is the one creditted as having killed Remus Lupin, a skilled duelist, at Hogwarts during the final climax of the book. This fight happens 'off panel' however.

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#4 Posted by Leo-343 (30909 posts) - - Show Bio

Very nice.

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@leo-343 said:

Very nice.

Thanks. Any idea for a new character?

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@cpt_nice said:
@leo-343 said:

Very nice.

Thanks. Any idea for a new character?

Kingsley?

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#7 Posted by RabumAlal (4994 posts) - - Show Bio

Nice.

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#8 Posted by foxerdes (10164 posts) - - Show Bio

Dolohov, nice.

I would like to see Alastor, I feel like he was all hype and no showings.

Perhaps some of the Hogwart teachers?

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@foxerdes said:

Dolohov, nice.

I would like to see Alastor, I feel like he was all hype and no showings.

Perhaps some of the Hogwart teachers?

Alastor is pretty featless in the book series, unfortunately. But I can do Flitwick and McGonagall.

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#10 Posted by foxerdes (10164 posts) - - Show Bio

@cpt_nice: It would be nice, they had some pretty good feats.

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Minerva McGonagall

"Transfiguration is some of the most complex and dangerous magic you will learn at Hogwarts," she said. "Anyone messing around in my class will leave and not come back. You have been warned."

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A tough old 'bat' with a heart of gold, unwavering courage and razorsharp wit, Minerva McGonagall exhibits all the traits of her house. McGonagall displayed a huge amount of magical aptitude even as an infant, being able to mind control the family's cat (a hint at one of her many talents), summon objects and make her father's bagpipes play at will. At school she further solidified her reputation as a gifted witch, receiving "Outstanding" in all her O.W.L's and N.E.W.T's and becoming the Transfiguration teacher at Hogwarts not long after her graduation. Noted as being extremely stern but always fair, even as the head of Gryffindor she rarely displayed any favoritism and always wanted every student at Hogwarts to be the best they could possibly be.

Duelling skills

“As if one of them could have Stunned Minerva McGonagall face on by daylight! Cowardice, that’s what it was. . . . Despicable cowardice."

Another veteran of the First Wizarding War, Minerva's great experience and knowledge of both transfiguration and charms makes her a formidable opponent.

“Have you seen Harry Potter, Minerva? Because if you have, I must insist...” Professor McGonagall moved faster than Harry could have believed: Her wand slashed through the air and for a split second Harry thought that Snape must crumple, unconscious, but the swiftness of his Shield Charm was such that McGonagall was thrown off balance. She brandished her wand at a torch on the wall and it flew out of its bracket. Harry, about to curse Snape, was forced to pull Luna out of the way of the descending flames, which became a ring of fire that filled the corridor and flew like a lasso at Snape. Then it was no longer fire, but a great black serpent that McGonagall blasted to smoke, which re-formed and solidified in seconds to become a swarm of pursuing daggers. Snape avoided them only by forcing the suit of armor in front of him, and with echoing clang, the dagger sank, one after another, into the breast. “Minerva!” said a squeaky voice, and looking behind him, still shielding Luna from flying spells, Harry saw Professor Flitwick and Sprout sprinting up the corridor toward them in the nightclothes, with the enormous Professor Slughorn panting along at the rear.

In her duel against snape, she shows the diverseness of her magic.

Voldemort was now dueling McGonagall, Slughorn, and Kingsley all at once, and there was cold hatred in his face as they wove and ducked around him, unable to finish him.

She was one of the three people who battled Voldemort at Hogwarts, the most powerful wizard alive at that time, and temporarily stalemated with him.

Other

* As the transfiguration professor at Hogwarts, McGonagall displayed near-flawless proficiency at her teaching subject. She could transfigure humans into animals and back without saying a word and could even transfigure objects without the use of her wand, something noted to be extraordinarily difficult.

"Never - do - that - again -" said Moody, speaking each word as the ferret hit the stone floor and bounced upward again."Professor Moody!" said a shocked voice. Professor McGonagall was coming down the marble staircase with her arms full of books. "Hello, Professor McGonagall," said Moody calmly, bouncing the ferret still higher. "What - what are you doing?" said Professor McGonagall, her eyes following the bouncing ferret's progress through the air. "Teaching," said Moody. "Teach - Moody, is that a student?" shrieked Professor McGonagall, the books spilling out of her arms. "Yep," said Moody. "No!" cried Professor McGonagall, running down the stairs and pulling out her wand; a moment later, with a loud snapping noise, Draco Malfoy had reappeared, lying in a heap on the floor with his sleek blond hair all over his now brilliantly pink face. He got to his feet, wincing. "Moody, we never use Transfiguration as a punishment!" said Professor McGonagall wealdy. "Surely Professor Dumbledore told you that?"

* As an animangus, she could transform into a cat at will, while still keeping her human intelligence.

* She was noted as having exceptional leadership skills, being both a prefect and headgirl during her student years. Later she went on to be the deputy headmistress at Hogwarts and taking over Dumbledore's tasks in his abscence. After Voldemort's defeat she was the headmistress of the school for over two decades. She also took on the role of impromptu general during the Battle of Hogwarts.

* Despite being goodnatured, she has no issue casting the imperiatus charm, an unforgiveable curse.

Amycus was coming around. Before Harry or Luna could act, Professor McGonagall rose to her feet, pointing her want at the groggy Death Eater, and said, “Imperio.” Amycus got up, walked over to his sister, picked up her wand, then shuffled obediently to Professor McGonagall and handed it over along with his own. Then he lay down on the floor beside Alecto. Professor McGonagall waved her wand again, and a length of shimmering silver rope appeared out of thin air and snaked around the Carrows, binding them tightly together.

* Although she was over 60 during the events of The Order of the Phoenix, McGonagall was noted to be extremely spriteful and durable. When confronting Umbridge and her posse, she took 4 stunning spells to the chest and did not suffer any longterm effects. Note that one single stunning spell knocks people out cold for a good while and has been known to be lethal in rare occasions.

Hermione, Parvati, and Lavender all screamed. No fewer than four Stunners had shot from the figures around the cabin toward Professor McGonagall. Halfway between cabin and castle the red beams collided with her. For a moment she looked luminous, illuminated by an eerie red glow, then was lifted right off her feet, landed hard on her back, and moved no more.

“I need to see Professor McGonagall,” gasped Harry, the breath tearing his lungs. “Now . . . It’s urgent. . . .” “She’s not here, Potter,” said Madam Pomfrey sadly. “She was transferred to St. Mungo’s this morning. Four Stunning Spells straight to the chest at her age? It’s a wonder they didn’t kill her.”

Madame Pomfrey also noted that none of the four of them would have stood a chance against her in a fair fight, as noted by the quote above.

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@anthp2000 Anything to add here, as a McGonagall fan?

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@cpt_nice: Well, you made a pretty amazing job in all 3 presentations! I didn't read Dolohov yet though. I loved reading this! In young age she was a skilled Quidditch player. She was also really wise and was given the opportunity to get into Ravenclaw by the Sorting Hat but eventually Gryffindor was chosen. You pretty much summed up everything. Great job!

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@cpt_nice:

I would personally enjoy a Flitwick one. His name never seems to come up when people are discussing top tier duelists because most people forget he can even duel.

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#16 Edited by AlphaQ (6229 posts) - - Show Bio

McGonagall also made that animated chess set as her trial for the Philosopher's Stone and IIRC when Hermione is musing about ways of beating the Horntails in GoB she says she doubtes even McGonagall could transfigure it, but one could argue that it's a possibility.

EDIT: The dragon quotes is just at the beginning of the chapter The First Task.

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Filius Flitwick

"Speaking of eccentrics, you'll like our Head of house, Professor Filius Flitwick. People often underestimate him, because he's really tiny (we think he's part elf, but we've never been rude enough to ask) and he's got a squeaky voice, but he's the best and most knowledgeable Charms master alive in the world today."

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Sometimes the best things come in small packages. Filius Flitwick was a short man with goblin ancestry and often ridiculed by those who did not know him very well. However, as the Charms professor of Hogwarts, he was considered one of the biggest authorities on magic in the Harry Potter-verse, also being the one who taught many skilled wizards such as Remus Lupin and Severus Snape. While goofy at times, he showed a strong force of will and initiative in times of crisis and his fellow professors respected him greatly.

Duelling skills and charm mastery

"You may have heard that I was a Duelling Champion!"

At some point during his life, Flitwick developed an interest in the art of magic duels and became a 'dueling master'. Although this title might be old, his reputation still holds firm and combined with his unrivaled spell knowledge, Flitwick is not a man to be trifled with.

"Flitwick was a duelling champion when he was young." - Hermione

Although it has likely been decades since he achieved the title, Flitwick's reputation as a dueling master is still known.

“No!” squeaking Flitwick, raising his wand. “You’ll do no more murder at Hogwarts!” Flitwick’s spell hit the suit of armor behind which Snap had taken shelter: With a clatter it came to life. Snape struggled free of the crushing arms and sent it flying back toward his attackers; Harry and Luna had to dive sideways to avoid it as it smashed into the wall and shattered. When Harry looked up again, Snape was in full flight, McGonagall, Flitwick, and Sprout all thundering after him

Animates the suit Snape was using to defend himself with non-verbal magic, causing him to flee.

Death Eaters everywhere Harry looked: Yaxley, close to the front doors, in combat with Flitwick, a masked Death Eater duelling Kingsley right beside them.

Stalemates with Yaxley, a skilled death eater.

Harry saw Yaxley slammed to the floor by George and Lee Jordan, saw Dolohov fall with a scream at Flitwick’s hands, saw Walden Macnair thrown across the room by Hagrid, hit the stone wall opposite, and slide unconscious to the ground.

He was the one to ultimately take down Dolohov, who as established above is one of the best duellists among the death eaters.

* He was shown to be particularly skilled at defensive magic, as he was the one hexing the school gate in Harry's 6th year (with non-verbal magic), as well as being in charge of the defenses during the battle of Hogwarts. Here he used the charm Protego Horriblis, a very powerful magical shield able to bounce off almost any form of dark magic.

“I can act from here,” said Flitwick, and although he could barely see out of it, he pointed his wand through the smashed window and started muttering incantations of great complexity. Harry heard a weird rushing noise, as though Flitwick had unleashed the power of the wind into the grounds.

* He seemed to be the go-to person whenever complex magical matters had to be achieved. While Umbridge was unable to take care of the magical swamp left behind by Fred and George in TOOTP, Flitwick cleared up their mess in no time.

* Flitwick seems to be one of the few people in the HP world skilled at wandless magic.

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#18 Posted by foxerdes (10164 posts) - - Show Bio

@cpt_nice: Sweet, I forgot that he defeated Dolohov.

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@cpt_nice:

Very nice idea. Tbh I think these characters would count more among "not having enough showings" than "underrated".

Also, carrow was trying to get through the ravenclaw door, and he was calling Flitwick because he was the head of the house as I interpret it.

Also, while not a feat of duelling, he was the one who removed the portable swamp made by Fred/George, and enchanted the flying keys in book 1.

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@princearagorn1: I guess in the case of some characters it is definitely a case of not enough showings, but for example Bellatrix has enough of them and she loses to Snape according to half of the fanbase because he is a really popular character.

And you are right about him being the head of Ravenclaw, that does make sense. I will swap out that feat for the swamp one.

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I'm digging this thread!

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#22 Posted by cpt_nice (9934 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_stegman: Thanks dude! Kingsley is next. A suggestion for after that?

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#23 Posted by the_stegman (40195 posts) - - Show Bio

@cpt_nice: Snape could be cool, though, people kinda already know he was a badass, ha.

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#24 Posted by cpt_nice (9934 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_stegman: He is, he is. But if anything, he is also sort of overrated, lol.

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#25 Edited by SirDrProfessor (1699 posts) - - Show Bio

Cool thread, I would love to see one for Lupin.

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Kingsley Shacklebolt

"And what would you say, Royal, to those listeners who reply that in these dangerous times, it should be 'Wizards first'?" asked Lee. "I'd say that it's one short step from 'Wizards first' to 'Purebloods first,' then to 'Death Eaters,'" replied Kingsley. "We're all human, aren't we? Every human life is worth the same, and worth saving."

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Standing tall with broad shoulders and a deep voice, the auror Kingsley seemed like a man who would not even need magic to defend himself. However, this highly trained and experienced auror was one of the Ministry of Magic's finest, which landed him important positions such as personal bodyguard for both the British Prime Minister and the Minister for Magic Cornelius Fudge, as well as leader of the task force aimed at recapturing Sirius Black after he escaped from Azkaban. Although pure-blood himself, Kingsley was a humble and kind man who believed protecting muggles and muggle-born wizards and considered them his equals.

Duelling skills

Although the times we see Kingsley dueling are short and sometimes off-panel, his tenacity as a highly trained auror is apparent.

Through watering eyes he saw Sirius dueling with a Death Eater some ten feet away. Kingsley was fighting two at once; Tonks, still halfway up the tiered seats, was firing spells down at Bellatrix.

Battles two death eaters at once and comes out unscathed, as he proceeds to engage Bellatrix after she defeats Black.

Voldemort was now dueling McGonagall, Slughorn, and Kingsley all at once, and there was cold hatred in his face as they wove and ducked around him, unable to finish him.

Kingsley is one of the 3 people who battled Voldemort at Hogwarts, the most powerful wizard alive at that time, and temporarily stalemated with him.

“What happened to you?” Lupin asked Kingsley. “Followed by five, injured two, might’ve killed one,” Kingsley reeled off, “and we saw You-Know-Who as well, he joined the chase halfway through but vanished pretty quickly.

Voldemort considered Kingsley and Moody (a veteran auror and a living legend) to be the most likely bodyguards of Harry during the broom chase at the beginning of The DH. That is why he sent 5 death eaters after Kingsley and Hermione/fake Harry and joined the chase briefly himself. Kingsley manages to injure 2 (and possibly kill 1) death eaters and escape largely unharmed.

Exactly! You’ve got to give them credit, it makes sense. It was only people who were serious about standing up to him like Dumbledore, who ever dared use it. Now they’ve put a Taboo on it, anyone who says it is trackable, quick and easy way to find they Order members! They nearly got Kingsley.” “You’re kidding?” “Yeah, a bunch of Death Eaters cornered him, Bill said, but he fought his way out. He’s on the run now, just like us.”

Although 'cornered' and outnumbered by several death eaters, he managed to duel his way to safety.

Other

* One of Kingsley's best assets as an auror was his ability to blend in as a muggle, something a lot of wizards (pure-bloods in particular) struggled with.

"I'm not getting rid of Kingsley Shacklebolt, if that's what you're suggesting! He's highly efficient, gets through twice the work of the rest of them." "That's because he's a wizard", said Rufus Scrimgeour. "A highly trained Auror, who has been assigned to you for your protection."

* He was also very observant, as he figured out Dumbledore's plan to escape by exchanging a glance with McGonagall and he took advantage of the confusion that followed to modify Marietta Edgecombe's memory.

“Unfortunately, I had to hex Kingsley too, or it would have looked very suspicious,” said Dumbledore in a low voice. “He was remarkably quick on the uptake, modifying Miss Edgecombe’s memory like that while everyone was looking the other way — thank him for me, won’t you, Minerva?"

* He had exceptional leadership skills, taking over command over the order of the Phoenix after the demise of Alastor Moody. He also did extraordinarily well as Minister for Magic.

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#28 Posted by MetalJimmor (6442 posts) - - Show Bio

@cpt_nice:

Very nice. I do enjoy the halfbreeds of Harry Potter. You might consider a Hagrid one as well. He's not a duelist in the traditional sense, but his half giant heritage and massive strength makes him one of the more formidable HP characters.

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#29 Posted by cpt_nice (9934 posts) - - Show Bio

@cpt_nice:

Very nice. I do enjoy the halfbreeds of Harry Potter. You might consider a Hagrid one as well. He's not a duelist in the traditional sense, but his half giant heritage and massive strength makes him one of the more formidable HP characters.

I did not consider Hagrid, but that is actually a great idea.

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#30 Posted by StormShadow_X (16700 posts) - - Show Bio

Speedblitz.

Jokes aside. good job

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#31 Edited by Kal-L (253 posts) - - Show Bio

@cpt_nice : This is a great idea, hopefully that will be read by most or at best be used during the Harry Potter battle thread.

Otherwise out of curiosity, that's insignificant but where did you get Kingsley's height from ?

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#32 Posted by cpt_nice (9934 posts) - - Show Bio

@kal-l: His height isn't exactly given in the books, but he is said to be taller than other OOTP members, including Lupin who should be at least 6 feet. Also, there is this movie extra, describing him as 6'2,5".

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Close to 6'3" seemed like a good guess.

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Remus Lupin

""My transformations in those days were — were terrible. It is very painful to turn into a werewolf. I was separated from humans to bite, so I bit and scratched myself instead. The villagers heard the noise and the screaming and thought they were hearing particularly violent spirits."

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Remus Lupin's tale is a tragic one. A victim of the notorious werewolf Fenrir Greyback, Lupin was infected with lycanthropy at the early age of 5. Just as his friends Sirius Black and James Potter, Remus was considered a child prodigy and gifted student, who was gonna accomplish great things in life. The First Wizarding War put a brutal stop to his plans, as he was forced to take up arms against the death eaters and become a member of the Order of the Phoenix. His experience with Defense Against the Dark Arts landed him the position of teacher at Hogwarts, after years of post-war loneliness and poverty. His time at Hogwarts was short however, as Lupin's secret came out and he became a social outcast once more. The events that followed, such as him finally finding love and having a son, makes his untimely demise at the hands of Antonin Dolohov all the more grievous.

Harry, the time for Disarming is past! These people are trying to capture and kill you! At least stun if you aren't prepared to kill!

Feats

"There was a soft, crackling noise, and a shivering light filled the compartment. Professor Lupin appeared to be holding a handful of flames. They illuminated his tired, gray face, but his eyes looked alert and wary

He was able to conjure up fire without a wand or speaking a word. Note that wandless magic is extremely difficult.

Malfoy was blasted off his back. As Harry scrambled up again he looked around and saw Malfoy smash into the dais on which Sirius and Bellatrix were now dueling. Malfoy aimed his wand at Harry and Neville again, but before he could draw breath to strike, Lupin had jumped between them. “Harry, round up the others and GO!”

Fought Lucius Malfoy until Dumbledore arrived.

“Harry, no!” Hermione begged him, but he continued to glare into Lupin’s livid face. “I’d never have believed this,” Harry said. “The man who taught me to fight dementors—a coward.” Lupin drew his wand so fast that Harry had barely reached for his own; there was a loud bang and he felt himself flying backward as if punched; as he slammed into the kitchen wall and slid to the floor, he glimpsed the tail of Lupin’s cloak disappearing around the door.

Draws his wand and hexes Harry so fast, Harry's own wand did not even leave his pocket.

I am bit at a loss for more Sirius feats so if anybody has some, feel free to add.

@sirdrprofessor

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#34 Edited by Kal-L (253 posts) - - Show Bio

@cpt_nice: Yeah that's what I thought... I think you should be careful with those informations because they actually don't correspond to the characters' height in the books but to the movies' one. For example in the movies you have David Thewlis who is 6'2 while actually Remus is definitely shorter, the same goes for the twins' actor (supposed to be shorter and stockier than Ron) or Alan Rickman who is 6'1 while in the books Snape is said to be noticeably shorter than Sirius who himself was the tallest marauder (yet pictured as 5'9 due to Gary Oldman's height).

Otherwise concerning Remus' presentation, he was never portrayed as as talented as James and Sirius who for their part were said at numerous times to be the best students of their year.

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#35 Edited by cpt_nice (9934 posts) - - Show Bio

@kal-l: I did not take the movies into account at all, just the books. Harry is described to be the exact same length as his father, who I am quite sure somewhere was said to be 5'11". Lupin is able to look Harry straight in the eyes so he is also around 5'11 but I am thinking 6 feet. Kingsley is significantly larger than both him and Sirius, so I would say 6'2 or 3 is a very fair estimate.

And Remus was not far behind that. All of them were talented. Which is one of the reasons Dumbledore went to him when he needed a new teacher.

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#36 Posted by Kal-L (253 posts) - - Show Bio

@cpt_nice said:

@kal-l: I did not take the movies into account at all, just the books. Harry is described to be the exact same length as his father, who I am quite sure somewhere was said to be 5'11". Lupin is able to look Harry straight in the eyes so he is also around 5'11 but I am thinking 6 feet. Kingsley is significantly larger than both him and Sirius, so I would say 6'2 or 3 is a very fair estimate.

And Sirius was not far behind that. All of them were talented. Which is one of the reasons Dumbledore went to him when he needed a new teacher.

James is never said to be 5'11 or I'll need a quote.

You put the three of them is the same ballpark which is wrong since they weren't described as such.

"Black and Potter. Ringleaders of their little gang. Both very bright, of course--exceptionally bright, in fact--but I don't think we've ever had such a pair of troublemakers --"

Mcgonagall PoA

"It took them the best part of three years to work out how to do it. Your father and Sirius here were the cleverest students in the school, and lucky they were, because the Animagus transformation can go horribly wrong--one reason the Ministry keeps a close watch on those attempting to do it."

Remus Lupin PoA

"Look, Harry, what you've got to understand is that your father and Sirius were the best in the school at whatever they did - everyone thought they were the height of cool"

Remus Lupin OoTP

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#37 Edited by cpt_nice (9934 posts) - - Show Bio

@kal-l: I will look for that quote, I am sure I read it somewhere. Anyway, I will change Kingsley's section, since it does not serve a purpose to his respect thread anyway.

Being a bright student has nothing to do with being talented as a duelist or overall wizard. Dawlish is described as having received Outstanding in all his newts, but nothing indicates he is anything special DATDA or dueling wise. I think you are focussing too much on book smarts. Sirius and James were brighter, Lupin has more of a knack for DATDA.

Also, do you have anything to add feat wise?

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#38 Posted by Kal-L (253 posts) - - Show Bio

@cpt_nice said:

@kal-l: I will look for that quote, I am sure I read it somewhere. Anyway, I will change Kingsley's section, since it does not serve a purpose to his respect thread anyway.

Being a bright student has nothing to do with being talented as a duelist or overall wizard. Dawlish is described as having received Outstanding in all his newts, but nothing indicates he is anything special DATDA or dueling wise. I think you are focussing too much on book smarts. Sirius and James were brighter, Lupin has more of a knack for DATDA.

Also, do you have anything to add feat wise?

You based your opinion on what ? I gave three different quotes picturing James and Sirius not only as the most brilliant students of their year -and by the way they were never described as book smart like you claim unlike Remus who in Snape's memories is the only one seen working hard on his note- but as the best at everything but you keep affirming things things out of nothing.

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#39 Posted by Kal-L (253 posts) - - Show Bio

@cpt_nice:

"Now, yer mum an' dad were as good a witch an' wizard as I ever knew. Head boy an' girl at Hogwarts in their day! Suppose the myst'ry is why You-Know-Who never tried to get 'em on his side before...

Rubeus Hagrid PoS

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#40 Posted by cpt_nice (9934 posts) - - Show Bio

@kal-l: Head boy an' girl at Hogwarts in their day

People usually become Headboy because of outstanding academic skills and/or good behaviour. Lilly was said as having calmed down James a bit and having brought him on the straight path, so that makes sense.

I really am done with this discussion, especially since the original post did not even say Remus was on the same level as Black And Potter, just that he was a prodigy, which he was. If you have no feats to add, I would like to ask you to stop posting, as you are cluttering my thread.

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#41 Posted by Kal-L (253 posts) - - Show Bio

@cpt_nice said:

@kal-l: Head boy an' girl at Hogwarts in their day

People usually become Headboy because of outstanding academic skills and/or good behaviour. Lilly was said as having calmed down James a bit and having brought him on the straight path, so that makes sense.

I really am done with this discussion, especially since the original post did not even say Remus was on the same level as Black And Potter, just that he was a prodigy, which he was. If you have no feats to add, I would like to ask you to stop posting, as you are cluttering my thread.

You may 'own' the thread but the universe belongs to anyone so if I consider that you are sharing wrong informations I'm perfectly in my right to point it out whether you like (or even care) it or not. Lupin a prodigy ? You can keep affirming that all you want but it certainly doesn't come from the books.

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#42 Posted by Kairan1979 (26908 posts) - - Show Bio

How about Aberforth Dumbledore? Another underrated character.

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#43 Posted by NeonGameWave (19333 posts) - - Show Bio

Superb RT =D

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#44 Posted by cpt_nice (9934 posts) - - Show Bio

Superb RT =D

Thanks dude.

How about Aberforth Dumbledore? Another underrated character.

I don't remember any of his feats except for defeating Rookwood and participating in a duel with Grindelwald and Albus which we know little about. There is also this quote

A coffin-side brawl! The way Bathilda told it, Aberforth shouted that it was all Albus’ fault that Ariana was dead and then punched him in the face. According to Bathilda, Albus did not even defend himself, and that’s odd enough in itself. Albus could have destroyed Aberforth in a duel with both hands tied behind his back.

but that says little because it's Albus Dumbledore and all.

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#45 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (31807 posts) - - Show Bio

@cpt_nice:

If I recall correctly, kingsley was the second person voldemort targeted in the battle of seven potters, right after moody. He was also one of the people who said voldemort's name and was cornered by a few death eaters, but he fought his way out.. will read through the rest later.

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#46 Posted by cpt_nice (9934 posts) - - Show Bio

@cpt_nice:

He was also one of the people who said voldemort's name and was cornered by a few death eaters, but he fought his way out..

Do you remember when this happened?

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#47 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (31807 posts) - - Show Bio

@cpt_nice:

Off panel - Ron tells it to Harry when he explains the taboo about Voldemort's name.

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#48 Posted by cpt_nice (9934 posts) - - Show Bio
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#49 Edited by PrinceAragorn1 (31807 posts) - - Show Bio

@cpt_nice:

Ofc. If they put a taboo on his name before book 7, dumbledore would have just stood there saying "voldemort voldemort voldemort" and took out anyone who appeared, lol.

I'm on a phone, but Here's the quote partly. You can ctrl+F it if you're using an ebook:

"They nearly got Kingsley —” ... “Yeah, a bunch of Death Eaters cornered him, Bill said, but he fought his way out."

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Rubeus Hagrid

“I am what I am, an’ I’m not ashamed. 'Never be ashamed,’ my ol’ dad used ter say, ‘there’s some who’ll hold it against you, but they’re not worth botherin’ with.”

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A giant man, although only a half-giant, Rubeus Hagrid was the groundskeeper at Hogwarts for many years and a personal friend of Harry Potter. During his years at Hogwarts as a student, he was framed for a crime he did not commit and found himself expulsed from the school. Despite being looked down on and considered an outsider, Albus Dumbledore convinced the headmaster to let Rubeus stay as the Hogwarts Groundskeeper. In return, Hagrid was fiercely loyal and would put blind faith in the man who had supported him when no one else would. Friendly, eager to help and a bit overzealous, Hagrid went on to become the professor of Care of Magical Creatures, a position some of his student would look back on with mixed feelings.

"NEVER-INSULT-ALBUS-DUMBLEDORE-IN-FRONT-OF-ME!"

Feats

Despite being forbidden to ever own a wand and practice magic again, Hagrid is seen performing plenty of magical feats throughout the books using his pink umbrella. Because he was expelled during his third year at Hogwarts, Hagrid's magic tended to be a bit clumsy and sometimes did not act the way he intended. However, what he lacked in dueling skill, he maked up for in brute strength and durability.

Magical

His eyes fell on the empty grate with the shriveled chip bags in it and he snorted. He bent down over the fireplace; they couldn't see what he was doing but when he drew back a second later, there was a roaring fire there. It filled the whole damp hut with flickering light and Harry felt the warmth wash over him as though he'd sunk into a hot bath.

He is skilled enough at non-verbal magic to start a fire at the cabin Harry and the Dursleys are staying. Likely he used the Incendio spell for this.

He brought the umbrella swishing down through the air to point at Dudley -- there was a flash of violet light, a sound like a firecracker, a sharp squeal, and the next second, Dudley was dancing on the spot with his hands clasped over his fat bottom, howling in pain. When he turned his back on them, Harry saw a curly pig's tail poking through a hole in his trousers.

Hagrid looked down at his umbrella and stroked his beard. "Shouldn'ta lost me temper," he said ruefully, "but it didn't work anyway. Meant ter turn him into a pig, but I suppose he was so much like a pig anyway there wasn't much left ter do."

Tries to transfigure Dudley into a pig but only manages to give him a tail. Note however, that transfiguration of people is very tricky magic.

"If I was ter -- er -- speed things up a bit, would yeh mind not mentionin' it at Hogwarts?" "Of course not," said Harry, eager to see more magic. Hagrid pulled out the pink umbrella again, tapped it twice on the side of the boat, and they sped off toward land.

He is also skilled enough at non-verbal magic to propell a boat with Harry and himself in it.

“We should put out your house,” said Harry, “the charm’s ‘Aguamenti’ . . .” “Knew it was summat like that,” mumbled Hagrid, and he raised a smoldering pink, flowery umbrella and said, “Aguamenti!” A jet of water flew out of the umbrella tip. Harry raised his wand arm, which felt like lead, and murmured “Aguamenti” too: Together, he and Hagrid poured water on the house until the last flame was extinguished.

He is able to conjure up water using his umbrella, after Harry reminds him of the appropriate spell.

Physical

"Ah, shut up, Dursley, yeh great prune," said the giant; he reached over the back of the sofa, jerked the gun out of Uncle Vernon's hands, bent it into a knot as easily as if it had been made of rubber, and threw it into a corner of the room.

Bends the barrel of a rifle into a knot with the greatest of ease.

Hagrid’s door had burst open and by the light flooding out of the cabin they saw him quite clearly, a massive figure roaring and brandishing his fists, surrounded by six people, all of whom, judging by the tiny threads of red light they were casting in his direction, seemed to be attempting to Stun him.

Jets of red light were still flying beside Hagrid’s cabin, yet somehow they seemed to be bouncing off him. He was still upright and still, as far as Harry could see, fighting.

Due to him being half-giant, regular stunning spells just bounce of Hagrid even though six people are trying to restrain him.

Harry could see the tiny outline of Fang, attempting to defend Hagrid, leaping at the wizards surrounding him until a Stunning Spell caught him and he fell to the ground. Hagrid gave a howl of fury, lifted the culprit bodily from the ground, and threw him: The man flew what looked like ten feet and did not get up again.

Hagrid took two massive swipes at his closest attackers; judging by their immediate collapse, they had been knocked cold. Harry saw him double over and thought for a moment that he had finally been overcome by a spell, but on the contrary, next moment Hagrid was standing again with what appeared to be a sack on his back — then Harry realized that Fang’s limp body was draped around his shoulders.

As Umbridge and her posse are trying to stop him, Hagrid one-shots several wizards with his brute strength.

Harry saw Yaxley slammed to the floor by George and Lee Jordan, saw Dolohov fall with a scream at Flitwick’s hands, saw Walden Macnair thrown across the room by Hagrid, hit the stone wall opposite, and slide unconscious to the ground.

Hagrid throws the death eater Macnair across the Great Hall, a room described as being massive.