The Force Awakens vs The Last Jedi

i walked out of TFA underwhelmed but happy. I walked out of TLJ embarrassed.

The writing is horrible and somehow the man who wrote it is getting a whole trilogy.

Left the theater after The Force Awakens excited for the future of Star Wars and counting down the days until VIII

Left the theater after The Last Jedi confused and totally underwhelmed, with no excitement for anything Star Wars whatsoever

This sums up exactly how I feel.

A great sequel should move the story forward in an interesting way and leave the characters in a completely different place. By the end of Empire, the heroes fall into a trap laid by Vader, Luke is devestated emotionally, it is revealed that Vader is his father, he loses an arm and lightsaber, and Han is frozen. In The Last Jedi, the characters are in the same place that they were at the end of The Force Awakens. It failed to progress the story or characters in a meaningful way. There's no reason to care for the next installment.

Equally smelly in my opinion.

TFA. TLJ ranks as barely better than AOTC or PM, just due to nostalgic moments. That’s it.

If you boiled the ocean and all that was left was salt, it still wouldn't be more than the amount of salt TLJ haters can produce from their eyes.

Force Awakens. The hate for TFA is stupid, people call it a copy of "a new hope" when it really wasnt too similar. And being a copy of something doesnt mean its bad. It was a really damn good film and at least Finn was relevant in TFA.

TLJ, TFA is my least favorite star wars movie.

Both are garbage. I’ll go with TLJ because it at least had an original plot.

The Force Awakens

Force Awakens easily. It may have been a straight copy of A New Hope, but at least it was structured well, the action was a lot more fun, the characters were handled a little better, and set up a lot of interesting mysteries. Not to mention, Finn was a more interesting character, whom did jack all in The Last Jedi.

The Last Jedi was an overly long movie that ultimately ended up feeling empty with action and humor. It subverts expectations for the sake. You have the exact same questions at the end that you did at the end of The Force Awakens. It was really disappointing.

TFA. TLJ was simply not a good movie, no amount of denial will change that

Both are some of the worst movies I've ever seen.

I liked The Force Awakens better

The Last Jedi. Less insulting than The Force Awakens.

I prefer TFA too

TFA edges it. Although it played it safer, it is the more tighter, focused story while introducing characters with relevance.

I admire TLJ's more bolder different take, however it's elements and subplots are too hodgepodged and contrived in the end.

It took me awhile, but I think I actually preferred TFA.

TLJ.

I liked TFA, but TLJ sucked.

Bump.

TFA is hands down the worst film of the franchise as it's a remake that tries to brand itself as a sequel.

Aside from much better acting, cinematography, and dialogue. TLJ, flawed as it may be, is original.

Copies don't deserve to be compared to original work.

The Force Awakens is s***, but The Last Jedi is poison to the human sole.

I'll never understand this TLJ hate.

I like them the same.

The Last Jedi FTW. Actual character development and much more original plot.

The Last Jedi. I enjoyed The Force Awakens but the more I watch it the more I feel like it's a repeat of A new Hope. The Last Jedi however, was an amazing incredible film. I still don't understand why people hate it that much.

TFA

TFA. I left The Last Jedi hating the movie, and I still do, and it actually killed all of my excitement for Episode 9 I thought it was so bad.

Decent remake of New Hope is better than original pile of shit.

TFA, I thought Kylo Ren was cool, but TLJ was absolute trash. Never thought I'd see a SW film worse than AotC. It actually has me debating whether I want to see Solo or not, and completely killed my excitement for the film.

Me watching TFA:

Me watching TLJ:

The answer is obvious, TLJ is the worst Star Wars Movie, I even think it's worse than AoTC and PM.

bump

TFA was ok decent reentry

TLJ killed Star Wars

It really is the same shit. Can't even understand how it took fanboys a couple of years of denial to finally realize that.

Phantom Menance is better then both and it's telling.

TLJ is the worst Star Wars movie ever made.

The choice isn't so clear for me. I do give more credit to TLJ for at least being more original and taking chances. Though this also hurt it, because it was pretty terrible story wise and many things didn't make sense. Makes you wonder if people would've liked a clone of the Empire Strikes Back better. On the other hand, TFA is almost A New Hope with Rey edition. Which left me so damn salty after watching it in the theater. These movies do have incredible visual effects, cgi, sound, etc. However, those are surface level things, and the movies lack depth. All this said, they mean nothing to me and Star Wars is dead. Won't be watching episode 9 until I'm able to watch it at home when someone else has bought it. Though, I will say that Rogue One was entertaining and decent.

Here's to the galaxy from long, long ago somehow imploding so there's no sequel trilogy in 5 years.

TFA wasn't excellent, but at least it didn't butcher the series like TLJ did.

Remember that by the second movie of the trilogies both Anakin and Luke lost their arm and have experienced pain before (mentally, emotionally, and physically.) Mrs. Mary Sue who no one knows about doesn't have that!

TLJ is crap, it's not a debate, get over it.

TLJ is a steaming pile of shit that should be retconned out of existence due to the numerous plotholes and how they completely wasted some of their characters. It's like Johnson didn't even watch TFA (or almost any star wars movie) before writing TLJ. TFA is pretty meh, but it least it actually tried to continue with what Lucas started.

So yeah, I'd watch TFA over TLJ anyday. Despite TFA being lackluster

I loved TFA when I first watched it and even now my only really problem with it was as everyone else is saying it did feel like a copy of A New Hope.

I did enjoy TLJ, not as much as TFA though and I can see why people hate it.

Both were terrible but TLJ at least has one good fighting scene so...

Picking the not completely awful one.

The Force Awakens.

Last Jedi was great, unlike the toxic fanbase would have you believe. However, Force Awakens was WAY better!