The Defenders Discussion Thread

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Holy shit episode 3 was amazing Danny was kicking ass

Matt vs Elektra was awesome.

I'm on episode 4 so far love the fight scenes with Danny & luke cage

Is Danny a decent character now?

@nickzambuto:

Not really, tbh he's the weak point of the show

He's getting better, fight choreography is much better

My stream doesn't have subtitles for the hand member that talks in chinese, is he meant to have them or not cause I ain't got a damn clue what he's saying

@thorthunder98: That was Japanese. And yeah, mine does.

@rogueshadow: ffs times' like these netflix would be handy lol! kinda hope he dies soon so I don't miss anymore dialogue he talks too much

@nickzambuto: Kinda. At the very least his fight choreography is better.

Well I guess Matt is more skilled than Danny for now after episode 6

What's the whole purpose of Jessica Jones beside stumbling around drunk most of the time?

@thorthunder98: It backed up Kristen Ritter saying that Matt is the most skilled. Was actually kinda surprised but part of me is glad since Matt's my favorite.

Do I need to finish Luke Cage and Iron Fist to understand what's going on?

@buttersdaman000: nope

@buttersdaman000: Not really.

Just finished the series I thought it was pretty damn great and had great fight choreography. Although everyone's power levels kept fluctuating like Elektra and the Hand members which was a bit weird. Overall the show was solid pretty much all had their time to shine, Sigourney Weaver did a great job, I had no subtitles for the Japanese guy so I have no clue what he said the whole series kind of annoying.

I think they made a point of having Matt be better than Danny in h2h which is fine, Danny had some pretty great feats still like in episode 3 taking on that many people by himself. Idk why sometimes they have him job or not use the Iron Fist as effectively as he does on other times it's a bit weird but whatever.

I enjoyed the series, it's not as good as Daredevil season 2 which is my favourite of the Netflix shows, but I'd still probably have it ranked second out of the netflix lot because I enjoyed it a lot.

That Punisher teaser at the end got me re-hyped up can't wait for that!

Matt is so damn cool

this his fighting has improved so much

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His fighting has improved.

only finished episode 3 but i like the connection luke and danny has

So awesome, just finished it.

Elektra bullet timing in episode 2 had me hyped as shit, but the "hallway fight" in episode 3 was amazing. Seriously, every part of it was just incredible. Danny fighting the entire room by himself first, Cage busting in and helping him kick ass, Matt and Jessica showing up in the hallway, all four of them kicking ass together, andespecially Matt's fight against Elektra. Absolutely awesome choreography.

@pipxeroth: Yea episode 3 fight was insane Danny was a beast taking out all those people by himself and the choreography was great throughout the whole show

Matt got some pretty sweet durability, and combat feats, heck so did Jessica jones

@superhero24: Or the choreography has

I find Elektra to be much more likeable now that she barely talks

On episode three before I had to go to work. The first two were soooo slow and boring....then Iron Fist met Luke and it picked up. Hopefully the rest of the season holds my interest.

I hated Jessica in her show and I hate her here. She's so jaded and annoying. No one is THAT anti social.

So are like, all the defenders bullet timers for keeping up with elektra? Is matts durability insane for taking hits from her when she was able to one shot Luke and Jessica, or was elektra jobbing against Matt?

@webinyoureye11: Yeah it seems a bit inconsistent

Power levels fluctuated a hell of a lot.

Murakami was taking on Luke but Danny was beating him h2h and Matt was taking him and Bakuto at the same time.

Danny was doing better against Elektra without the Iron Fist than with, when it's supposed to amp his speed and all that

Matt somehow fights Elektra and lands the most hits and takes a hell of a lot when she is clearly superhuman

Too much fluctuation in power levels quite inconsistent tbh

6 episodes in and I'm still not really feeling the villains. Also I'm sick of The Hand. Hopefully we move on to something else next season.

Amazing series.

I´m on episode 5, it´s been really good, the only problem is that the pace is kind of slow, but everything else is top notch.

@righteous300: yeah it was pretty inconsistent I still enjoyed the series though.

just finished all 8 in a row, loved it, took a bit, the first two episodes did a slow set up to the characters and story bud from the end of episode 2 it was great and thankfully had a lot of action too, only one thing bothered me at the end and this is not a spoiler but there was a point where the green screen in one scene was too obvious looking at the end of the last episode anyone noticed that ?

Matt and Elektra were amazing, they got really great feats. I liked Matt and Jessica together as well. Luke was solid, but Danny was still as bad as he was in his own series. I was also shocked Alexandra took such an early exit. Overall the show was short and sweet, with great characters. Gao and the other Hand leaders were great too.

One minor issue that stuck out to me was how Colleen gave Danny a speech about how the fight against the Hand wasn't just his fight, because plenty of people had been hurt by them and it was their fight too. But once Danny meets the others, she completely changes, and suddenly tells Danny that the fight is only theirs, and that he shouldn't work with them.

Luke is relatively unskilled and slow, so I thought Murakami taking him on but losing to Danny and Matt was okay. And I think Danny landed like two hits without the Iron Fist, perhaps she was just waiting for him to activate it before finishing him off so that she could use it as a key. And Elektra was just holding back on Matt the whole series.

Still I think he was getting hurt by him somewhat and giving him a fight though maybe he was using pressure points like Sowande. She may have been doing that but still when we've seen Danny with the IF before his speed goes up, his reactions go up he should've done better against her it seemed like he was just swinging wildly once he activated it and seemed like jobbing to me anyways. Though true she was holding back on Matt the whole series, but it still felt to me her power levels fluctuated a lot especially her strength.

Is someone gonna calc Jessica holding the elevator feat too lol

Finally finished. Good show, just not what I was hoping for.

I'm on episode 4, anything i should expect?

Elektra was arguably holding back against Matt. Matt even said that she could have killed him, but she chose not to ...

@ithemanwithoutfeari: Yes that is true tbf

@ithemanwithoutfeari: I think it was more that she had the chance to kill him when he was down than she was holding back the entire time. Several of her punches sent him flying through glass and smashed into objects and he still got up almost like nothing happened. She did also KO him after killing Stick so it's a possibility but she also did that to Jessica who was also able to take her hits both before and after and had no reason to hold back in their other fights.

@dstreet45: Hmm :/

@ithemanwithoutfeari: Idk it seems inconsistent since Elektra can hurt Luke but Matt and Danny being able to take several hits from Elektra didn't really bother me since they also took hits from Madame Gao in their respective shows.

@dstreet45: @thorthunder98: @ithemanwithoutfeari: Yeah, the show is wildly inconsistent on durability and punching power for every character. In addition to Elektra, the hand elite seemed to be able to beat back Luke in ways Danny couldn't without the IFist. Honestly, I think it's not so much that Elektra is holding back with Matt and Danny, but the show has some really terrible writing, plotting problems and fills the gaps with PIS/CIS/WIS.

I'm watching the first scene with Danny in the sewer.

Too many cut scenes!

Already given up on this show. :P

The best series Netflix-Marvel (in my opinion).

The end was... INCREDIBLE!

The fight scenes... ugh they were giving me orgasms every time

and Elektra's skill is waay higher than before