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The Comic Vine staff has put our noggins together to collect and codify the all-time greatest moments in comics.

We make no pretense at any academic objectivity here - - these aren't supposed to be the most "important" to the history of the medium. These are simply the times where we've been so wrapped up in a story that we literally had to say "Wow!" when we turned the page. These are the most-memorable pages or panels for readers like you (as decided by our highly-discriminating reckoning.)

These are the top fifty greatest moments in comics...

Lest we forget the time Ultimate Warrior made Santa humble.
Lest we forget the time Ultimate Warrior made Santa humble.

We’re counting down moments #20-11 today. Catch up on moments #50-41, #40-31 &#30-21. [Major spoilers below!]

== TEASER ==

20. Storm & Cyclops fight for X-Men leadership in UNCANNY X-MEN #201

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Well, here’s an older comic to put SCHISM in some perspective. Way before he ever hooked up with Emma Frost and way before he finally wed Jean Grey, Cyclops was married to Madelyne Pryorand he was kind of a jerk to her. As in, he wasn’t around for the birth of their son, Nathan (the future Cable,) and he was actually even the last person to call to check up on her. It seemed rather clear that his attention was divided by his duties as the X-Men’s leaders, so Storm proposed a friendly match in the Danger Room to decide who should lead. Even though she'd lost her powers at the time, Ororo still bested Scott through cunning maneuvering, stealing his visor a crucial moment and proving that his mind was too distracted by his family to lead the X-Men properly. Do the results still ring true today?

19. John Stewart kills Mogo in GREEN LANTERN CORPS #60

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Hal Jordan may be the greatestGreen Lantern, and Sodam Yat might be the ultimate Green Lantern, but there ought to be an even more superlative description for Mogo, a living planet GL. Seriously, how do you even hurt a planet, let alone kill it? Well, when Mogo was brainwashed by the villainous Krona during WAR OF THE GREEN LANTERNS, John Stewart had to find a way. Using an Indigo Tribe ring to take on the powers of the Black Lanterns, he fired a death-charged missile into Mogo’s heart that finally slayed the creature, asserting how awesomely-outlandish comics can be by showing that planets are actually mortal, too.

18. Barry Allen meets Jay Garrick in FLASH #123

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This particular moment has far more significance then you probably realize. Sure, the new Flash meeting his predecessor cutely establishes the whole notion of heroic legacies, but there’s more to it than that. If you’ve ever wondered how alternate realities and timelines ever got so complex for DC and Marvel - - how there could be so many universes that crises are necessary every few years to sort them all out - - it’s because parallel worlds have been a part of superhero comics since the early Silver Age! And it all started here. It isn’t too hyperbolic to say that, without this auspicious meeting, we likely wouldn’t ever have seen the likes of Kingdom Come, Age of Apocalypse, ad infinitum.

17. Lori Grimes & her infant child gunned down in WALKING DEAD #48

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We’ll see if the TV show ever gets this cruel...

You want to talk about the worst conceivable outcome for a love triangle and the suspicious paternity case lying right in the middle of it? Officer Rick Grimes woke from a coma to find that his wife, Lori, and his partner, Shane, had gotten a whole lot friendlier while he was sleeping during the zombie apocalypse. As in they’d gotten "friendly" enough that, when Lori realized she was pregnant, nobody (readers included) could be quite sure if the baby was Rick or Shane’s. She eventually did give birth to a little girl, Judith, and, as you really ought to expect things to go in a zombie apocalypse, the two were brutally killed soon after while everybody was fleeing from a sadistic “Governor.”

In case you didn't realize... nobody is safe in this series. Nobody.

16. Captain America points to his "A" in ULTIMATES #12

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When a hero’s dressed up in the American flag, reactions to his patriotism will range. Some will see it as just a cool outfit without any political connotations, others will see it as an aggressive expression of jingoism. Cap’s attitude about the suit has been continually redefined by writers over the years, and the big "A" he insists on wearing on his forehead has gotten almost as many snickers as the wings on his temples. Thus, it's just cathartic to see Cap, in the heat of battle, finally expressing some RA-RA enthusiasm for one of his costume's potentially sillier design elements and for all the patriotic pride it exudes.

15. The Saint of Killers shoots up heaven in PREACHER #66

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When Ennis and Dillon’s mega-series starts off with such a provocative, button-pushing premise - - that of disillusioned preacher, Jesse Custer, setting out to confront no less than the almighty - - it really just has to escalate until it reaches the utmost peak of the transgressive. Thus, Jesse’s sometimes foe, a “holy hitman” called the Saint of Killers finds a violent reckoning like no other in the series’ final issue. He barges into paradise, pistols blazing, and guns down the "man upstairs” who’d abandoned creation and caused the Saint and Jesse such anguish. Then, the Saint takes a seat on his throne… and you likely won’t ever see something as offensive again (not even in THE BOYS.)

14. Bane breaks Batman’s back in BATMAN #497

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Something tell us that this particular moment is going to be brought up a lot more so soon - - maybe even recreated by a couple actors come July 2012? The 90s were a time when many of our big heroes were falling on hard times. Some went clinically insane, other were murdered in public, but there’s something far more gut-wrenchingly visceral about a hero receiving an injury he can’t just walk off by the next issue, though. What’s maybe even scarier is how this wasn't an act of furious rage. No, this was the single, crowning moment of a cold, cunning plan Bane very calmly orchestrated over the course of a few months, spreading the Caped Crusader thin until he finally could finally break the Bat.

13. Hulk lifts a whole mountain in SECRET WARS #4

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How strong is Hulk? HOW STRONG IS THE HULK?!?! THIS STRONG!!!!

Comics fans love the stats and figures of their favorite character to be hashed out clearly in stories, without any room for disagreement. Thus, this moment should be referenced any time anybody casts a doubt on whether Hulk actually is the strongest one there is. The Molecule Man drops an entire mountain falls on our heroes and the jade giant holds the thing up on his own - - all hundred and fifty billion tons of it, all by himself. When you've got a loose cannon with that much raw power, you can understand why the Illuminati found it in their best interest to get him off the planet.

12. Batman & Catwoman finally kiss in BATMAN #610

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His back’s been broken, his body's a road map of pain, his loved ones have been murdered… can Batman ever catch a break, for once? Perhaps there’s no more welcome break from all that anguish than a break that comes in the release of decades of powerful, stewing sexual tension. While this didn’t answer the “Will they? Won’t they?” question as… thoroughly as some recent comics have, it stands out for being one of the few respites in both of those costume night ragers’ conflict-ridden lives. They might never be able to make a relationship such as this work in the long run, but at least we got a fleeting glimpse of what such a romance could look like, unencumbered.

11. Wonder Woman snaps Max Lord’s neck in WONDER WOMAN #219

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An act of violence, committed out of love. Out of love! After Max Lord took a particularly nasty “heel turn” and used his hitherto-unrevealed mind control powers to make Superman into a highly-dangerous pawn, Wonder Woman was faced with terribly few options for how to proceed. When Mr. Lord arrogantly told her (while wrapped in the lasso of truth, no less) that Supes would only ever be freed over his dead body, she had even fewer options. Thus, because her love for the man of steel (romantic? platonic? Take your pick) was stronger than her usual code of conduct and her fear of media condemnation... she snapped Lord's neck and gave the JLA's happy-go-lucky days a very final endpoint.

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#1  Edited By The Impersonator

Great list!

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#2  Edited By DarkChris

I can't wait for #1!

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#3  Edited By mickoreo_LZ

some very iconic moments here. I couldn't believe it when Wonder Woman snapped Lord's neck. A truly shocking panel. And I agree that we'll see Batman's back broken in The Dark Knight Rises. What else could that poster represent?

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#4  Edited By TDK_1997

Another 10 good picks and from all I most liked:19,14,12 and 11.

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#5  Edited By difficlus

@The Impersonator said:

Great list!

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#6  Edited By AlKusanagi

WHAT?!?! They killed Mogo?

Guess I won't be getting back into Green Lantern comics... Is Kilowog at least okay?

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#7  Edited By Decept-O

Hulk lifting a frikkin' mountain in Secret Wars is behind Batman and Catwoman kissing? Totally disagree with that one, at least as far as number placement is concerned. Don't get me wrong, Cats and Bats slipping tongue and playing tonsil hockey was nice but come on.

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Part of me wants to go "The Death of Mogo shouldn't be this high" but then I think back to how I felt when it happened and how my stomach just sank, and yeah, you're right, it does deserve to be that high.

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#9  Edited By Gokujam

Moment #18: Why's the Flash's head so big? O_o

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#10  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator

meh, i don't know if Cap pointing to an A really deserves to be on a "greatest of" list...and i would but Bane Breaking the Bat at least in the top ten

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sorrrrry but some picks are very misplaced
breaking of the bat atleast top 10, and batman and catwoman kissing is ranked higher?hulk lifting a mountain?capt referring to his A come on. killing of mogo top 10  for sure

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#12  Edited By TheBane2890

First things first: Bane Breaking Batman should be #1 on this list. No moment in comics have ever equaled or surpassed that moment. And second: @mickoreo_LZ: said:

some very iconic moments here. I couldn't believe it when Wonder Woman snapped Lord's neck. A truly shocking panel. And I agree that we'll see Batman's back broken in The Dark Knight Rises. What else could that poster represent?

What that poster meant was Bane Killing the Batman instead of just Breaking him. Nolan wants to make sure his trilogy ends so that no one can pick up the series and continue it, and what better way to end the series then: DEATH!

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#13  Edited By LaserLambert

I hate 16 and 11.

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#14  Edited By TadThuggish

#1: "Whatever happened in the last issue I read."

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#15  Edited By Mr. Kamikaze

Doubtful it'll show up in the top 10, but I personally was very much shocked back when Madrox absorbed his baby. Really caught me off guard.

I wonder how many "Death of..." will be in the top 10 :P (Human Torch, Cable, Batman, Ted Kord, Nightcrawler, Jason Todd...)

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#17  Edited By fables87

SWEET! Wonder Woman made #11! Can't wait to see the top 10 list!

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#18  Edited By Mutant4life

Isn't this supposed to be the 50 greatest moments in comics, how is #17 great?

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#19  Edited By Queso6p4

This is a great list and I'm glad I've read most of these. The others I'll seek out thanks to the references. I look forward to the next breakdown.

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Very nice! I want the top ten now!

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#21  Edited By redhood21

cool stuff but where are they going to place rob liefields career? LOLZ

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#22  Edited By InnerVenom123

Crap, spoiled the ending of Preacher.

Oh well, it's the journey, I guess.

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#23  Edited By Gambit1024

That Cap moment is my personal faves.

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#24  Edited By SpidermanWins

Great. I would have 19 lower though...

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#25  Edited By Or35ti

This is an incredible list! Really building up, i'm getting excited.

also, WHAT?! Lori and her baby get gunned down in the comics?!! :'(

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#26  Edited By Larkin1388

Barry Allens head is huge in that pic lol.

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#27  Edited By Yumulu

Great choices, well except the Cap one. Why would anyone think a big A stand for France?

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#28  Edited By doordoor123

@Mutant4life said:

Isn't this supposed to be the 50 greatest moments in comics, how is #17 great?

qft

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#29  Edited By The Average Bear

I seriously look forward to Friday because of this

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#30  Edited By Bestostero

The lists are getting better and better!

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#31  Edited By conan2099

Nice picks so far, I few I would have picked myself, and some I over looked or did not know about. The top 10 will be about the same I am hoping, and one of my top 10 would be the Death of Superman.

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While I admit the fight between Cyclops and Storm was epic for X-Men at the time you wrote "Ororo still bested Scott through cunning maneuvering, stealing his visor a crucial moment and proving that his mind was too distracted by his family to lead the X-Men properly. Do the results still ring true today?" ... call me nuts but later on when Madeline Pryor is the Goblin Queen having her big MUWAHAHA doesn't she admit to subconscious tampering with that fight to make sure Cyclops lost? Pretty sure its even in the wiki's Cyclops page. >_>

It is still an amazing moment in comic books... the prose of the write up just made me nerd-twitch a bit though. :D

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#33  Edited By Apothecary2

@rawr: Well that moment happened far before Madelyne even had powers. It is not a very good retcon as it makes much more sense to say cyclops was distracted by family issues.

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@The Impersonator said:

Great list!

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#35  Edited By Chris2KLee

Uh, found #16 to actually be a low point in comics. But to be fair, I've found "The Ultimates" to be a low point in comics overall.

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16. Captain America points to his "A" in ULTIMATES #12

Really?

This moment was just stupid. This is just something moronic to say.

It is not great, it is not even good, it is bad. How can this be one of the greatest?

This moment makes a dickhead of Ultimate Captain America.

I have nothing against patriotism but THIS? This is just Mark Millar trying to cash in on the French hate because they did not want to stupidly follow the Bush administration in their war in Irak, like the British did. This was stupid back then and it has been proven wrong now.

This sounds nothing like Cap, who fought alongside the Résistance in WWII and who is smart enough to understand that the only reason why the USA never technically surrendered was because they have Mexico and Canada for neighbours and the only threatening war they were in, the War of independence, they were helped by...the French.

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@DarthShap said:

16. Captain America points to his "A" in ULTIMATES #12

Really?

This moment was just stupid. This is just something moronic to say.

It is not great, it is not even good, it is bad. How can this be one of the greatest?

This moment makes a dickhead of Ultimate Captain America.

I have nothing against patriotism but THIS? This is just Mark Millar trying to cash in on the French hate because they did not want to stupidly follow the Bush administration in their war in Irak, like the British did. This was stupid back then and it has been proven wrong now.

This sounds nothing like Cap, who fought alongside the Résistance in WWII and who is smart enough to understand that the only reason why the USA never technically surrendered was because they have Mexico and Canada for neighbours and the only threatening war they were in, the War of independence, they were helped by...the French.

Amen brother!!

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#38  Edited By RedOwl_1

The 12, oh that's why I love Hush

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#39  Edited By _Zombie_

#16 should of been in the 40's, not here, if even that. It was decent as a joke, but doesn't belong this low on the list. Anyways.. #17 was just plain disturbing. I seriously need to catch up on my Walking Dead reading.

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How does a jerk version of Captain America using an offensive stereotype that didn't even exist in his time(look it up) exactly count as a great moment?

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@Chris2KLee said:

Uh, found #16 to actually be a low point in comics. But to be fair, I've found "The Ultimates" to be a low point in comics overall.

@Michiel76 said:

@DarthShap said:

16. Captain America points to his "A" in ULTIMATES #12

Really?

This moment was just stupid. This is just something moronic to say.

It is not great, it is not even good, it is bad. How can this be one of the greatest?

This moment makes a dickhead of Ultimate Captain America.

I have nothing against patriotism but THIS? This is just Mark Millar trying to cash in on the French hate because they did not want to stupidly follow the Bush administration in their war in Irak, like the British did. This was stupid back then and it has been proven wrong now.

This sounds nothing like Cap, who fought alongside the Résistance in WWII and who is smart enough to understand that the only reason why the USA never technically surrendered was because they have Mexico and Canada for neighbours and the only threatening war they were in, the War of independence, they were helped by...the French.

Amen brother!!

Amen to both comments.

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#42  Edited By telepathic666

I have to say, Wonder womans was def a moment that was like oh snap

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#43  Edited By mrzero1982pt2

i think #16 was added in for humor because if you read the ultimates it was basically an action packed over the top satirical look at heroes in the world. and that pointed that even captain america was at times a pompous d-bag. but i am digging how this list is rounding out!

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My response to Number 12.
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#45  Edited By CrimsonTempest
@ulrich200 said:

How does a jerk version of Captain America using an offensive stereotype that didn't even exist in his time(look it up) exactly count as a great moment?

Quoted for truth!
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#46  Edited By Scribbles

I would have put that scene where the Ultimate Warrior stole Santa's suit ahead of that scene with Ultimate Captain Dickmerica.

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#47  Edited By ApatheticAvenger

@aztek_the_lost said:

also, I disagree that Saint killing God is in any way offensive, at least not in-and-of-itself, sure the entire premise of Preacher can be absolutely offensive...but if you find that moment offensive and not the rest, you deserve to be offended, the God in that series deserved to die and if you don't think so you're just as bad as The Grail or Herr Starr or any of the loonies in the series, it was a moment of triumph and resolution at that point, not Ennis' way of trying to top his most offensive comic ever published

Agreed.

12, 14, and 15 most definitely deserve to be on here, but including 16 is an absolute joke.

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#48  Edited By chalkshark

Number 12 is a total non-event. It was not their first kiss. It was not even their hundredth. Bruce Wayne & Selina Kyle were romantically involved in the 1970's. They broke it off when she resumed her Catwoman ways. In the 80's, they were partners, both in & out of costume, much to Robin's (Jason Todd) chagrin. The Golden Age Batman was married off to the Golden Age Catwoman, & they produced a daughter. There was nothing fresh, or exciting, or meaningful about that kiss shared in the "Hush" story line. It had happened before, it had happened often, & all the sexual tension between the two had long ago been spent. The only thing the kiss in "Hush" had going for it, was that it was nicely drawn. A beautiful drawing, though, does not an event make.

 Never mind the cover hype. This story is actually a team-up / double date with Green Arrow & Black Canary.
 Never mind the cover hype. This story is actually a team-up / double date with Green Arrow & Black Canary.
 The result of an unencumbered relationship between Batman & Catwoman.
 The result of an unencumbered relationship between Batman & Catwoman.
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#49  Edited By Solarflare32

Moments that should make this list the death of jean grey both times (second in particular), wolverine kills northstar, xavier being shot by bishop,the dark angel sagas climax, and the marauders ambush in blinded by the light

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#50  Edited By Sir_Deadpool

hm what will be under the top 10? some more xxmen please!