SUPERMAN/WONDER WOMAN Announced

@superdork said:

This poll makes it clear whom the fans prefer.

Geoff Johns has said that Superman and Wonder Woman's relationship will "end badly."

And what is this relationship when Diana kissing with another man and Superman all the time thinking about Lois and jealous of her to her boyfriend?

This is gonna become a book about Wonder woman as she inevitably breaks up with superman and moves to the next superhero, and the next, and the next, and so forth... It'll be the "sex an the city" of the DC universe

Nice news!! Very interesting!!

YES. YES. YES!!!

Love Wonder Woman, but I think it's probably mostly because of Azzarello. I'll check out the first issue, but not sure how I feel about reading a series of Supes and WW making out all the time!

I won't say "you couldn't pay me to read this," because I could use the money...but you'd probably have to pay me a lot.

A lot of folks in this thread have covered many of the objections I have. I actually want to read more Wonder Woman (her current book just didn't pull me in). Kind of like how I wanted to be reading more Superman, but wasn't really feeling the current books, but now I've bought and loved Unchained. Wonder Woman should be getting a second solo book (considering how many Clark & Bruce have to themselves, it really shouldn't be that tall of an order to have just one more Diana-centric title). Instead people praise this for finally giving her a new title, despite the fact that by having Superman in the book (and first in the title), the relative ratio hasn't actually shifted in her favor.

I want to be reading a strong Wonder Woman solo book with art I actually like, and I want to be reading Lois and Clark together. Right now DC's delivering neither, and so long as that continues to be the case I will continue to look like a Gotham fanboy by largely ignoring those portions of the trinity. It's not the characters that are the problem -- it's the way they're being handled. The fact that neither the Superman nor the Wonder Woman writers (particularly the latter) have given much attention to this relationship -- thereby necessitating a new book because DC is trying to force something even their own writers don't seem to find useful for good stories -- kind of presses the point. I know the Clark/Diana teamup has its fans, but it does seem that the people whose purse strings are fashioned from nostalgia are by and large ready to see this over.

Anyway, people are obviously on-board because there were enough responses in this thread that suggest some folks are excited.

But all the comments from people who just popped in here to mock/ridicule/dismiss people as "whiners" or "complainers"... how infuriatingly trite. It turns out it's possible to dislike something and have good reasons for doing so. Calling someone immature or whiny for objecting to something you like is just staggeringly disingenuous and sort of undermines any legitimate point you might try to make. I really don't get why people think they should be able to praise stuff without having to also hear an equal amount of people deride that thing with equal vehemence.

Must we?

DC is taking a page out of the Marvel playbook and starting to spam even more books with their more recognizable brands. Aside Unchained though, Superman books have been pretty bad. Maybe this will help.

I honestly don't know what to say about this, but I know someone who can.

Batman?

xPeace

Lol all of these responses are either "Who the hell would read this?" or "I would totally read this."

The amount of hate in the comments is amazing lol Lois in the New 52 is not good for Clark or Superman, its not just a matter of pairing up with WW to well books. Also omg forbid something new or different happen.

Looks interesting but what happens to Lois Lane and Steve Trevor?

NOOOOOOOOOO

It's about time! They are dating, and why should Batman have all the fun with Supes?

LMAO!

May give this a try.

Cool! Its about time they move this relationship along...Also, sexy cover picture!

I had some Marvel V-day cards in grade school, so this isn't really that absurd an idea, lol.

Exactly! And whose to say that Superman isn't the "arm candy" in the relationship or that there even is "arm candy" at all. And at one point Outside makes a comment about female characters not needing a man and being independent, and then tries to point out that Lois is pointless without Superman. Can't have it both ways.

All the point about there not being a build up before a relationship, I feel bad if every relationship Outside has ever had came with a ton of buildup. Most of my best romances came out of nowhere and completely blindsided me. Sometimes things just happen. No one is saying that these characters are going to be a couple forever and ruin years of other storyline, but damn; they're single, let them date.

Anyone thinks this series alone is DC jumping the shark and killing not only their company but the whole comic industry?

@thetimestreamer: there already is one ever since demian died

Piss on a stick! I hate the superman wonder woman thing. I might by this for the art though. I already dropped superman. I think I'm dropping action comics.and superman unchained wasn't all that great. I might get batman superman but I don't like the art so far... Ugh! What's with New 52 Superman? I seriously think smallville is the best superman book out right now.

That's the internet man. Best thing ever or the worst thing ever.

They need to do at least one story where Clark needs saving and is the "damsel in distress". I'd definitely get that issue. That'd be a hilarious trope reversal. Besides, Clark is a sweetheart, and Diana is a maverick. It could work.

I don't really understand folks (several of you) saying you hate the idea/story/pairing/etc. but will buy because of the art.

If this book sells well, there's not a single person at DC who will attribute it to the art. They will attribute it to "fans like this couple."

Just saying -- like what you will but try not to undermine your own opinion with your actions.

Besides the obvious issues with Superman and Wonder Woman being an awful, incestuous vibey couple and the complete shafting of Lois Lane despite her new resurgence in popularity following MoS, there's the fact that...

this sucks for Wonder Woman. Supposedly DC’s third largest character and the third member of their trinity, Wonder Woman has never had two monthly titles whereas Batman and/or Superman are usually sporting upwards of 9. So this does give Wonder Woman her first secondary monthly title. Which she shares with a man. Not just any man. The only man that can not only outshine her in popularity, but arguably in strength. The man that she is unfortunately dating. Superman. Wonder Woman is co-starring in a title as Superman’s Girlfriend. That’s basically what this title is: Superman’s Girlfriend, Wonder Woman.

Which is borderline blasphemous. And of course, we have Wonder Woman and superman awkwardly embracing in the rain on the cover image they released. Instead of maybe fighting together side by side? As superheroes? No? Just as a couple. A superhero romance story. Just what Wonder Woman fans would want…wait…

@rustyroy: Have I told you how much I like you, RustyRoy? ;)

mindblown

So Superman & Wonder woman are doing now like their clones Hyperion & Power Princess?

cool let see what is going to happen but is going to be odd when Sup will dump her for Lois, Sup is too much addicted to her like a junkie with his...............

I'm just wondering when the break up will their relation turn Violent?

Hmmmm

It's not even sounds good for a team up title . Two power house , zero potential. Batman/Superman always works because it has balance but two similar character I'm not sure . And a romance title it's make even worse . What can they make? Fight after make out than fight after make out again .

YESSSSS!

Wonder Woman is amazing and Superman is great. Who cares if they have a relationship or not?

Hot

get out

Great! Thanks DC!!! It's about time.

Or it could be called Wonder Woman's boyfriend: Superman. I think that your issues with this are more a reflection of your own views than those of the writer or DC. I love how everyone thinks Lois is being "shafted" simply because Superman is TEMPORARILY dating someone else.

I'm new to Superman as I only really fell in love with Unchained....what really happened with Clark and Louis? I'm not complaining against WW and SM but...I always thought that Clark and Louis were like...ALWAYS a thing.

next new 52 book - Batman/Wonder Woman

then later on in the new 52 - Batman/Superman/Wonder Woman

admit it is just a matter of time until it happens!

And I think that's kind of the point. I believe that at some point Superman and Lois will be THE thing again. But with the relaunch it allowed the characters to be single and give writers the opportunity to do new things. So many people are freaking out as if the characters dating automatically lead to marriage and a bunch of little metahuman children. This is mostly just hostility left over from the 52 relaunch.

Yes nothing of what she does registers to most people, because her enduring legacy is 'the girl who Superman saves'. That she wins awards for her work is a thrown away line when its actually mentioned. An example of this is the Superman TAS episode with Batman in it, Lois ends up in a plane that gets hijacked, she gets to give her name and the thug immediately goes: "The one Superman always saves?!"

I don't honestly care where Lois is or who she is with, fact remains that she is now a target DC can choose to kill without it all becoming the Injustice world... or any of the others where Lois has ended up dead. And perhaps you are right, there isn't, but you can thank DC for crippling her for decades.

No I generally dont give writers terribly much credit in advance because DC is mainly run by morons who has time and again stifled and crippled stories for some reason or another that makes sense only to them. Prime example is the Batman-books, it doesn't seem to matter half the books have nothing to with Batman or has even been guested by him, every story now told is an excuse for editorial to make it into some half-arsed event that only truly serves the Batman book, and cripples the efforts of half a dozen others to developing independence from it.

If Soule make this book more than what I think it will be, props, credit and fame to him. But I will have to see it before I believe it.

Nope.

But it's not Wonder Woman's Boyfriend Superman. If it was Steve Trevor or another love interest, then she wouldn't be second fiddle.

TheBlackHood gets it

@theblackhood: Ah. Makes sense. I remembered hearing about all this stuff when that JL issue came out. I think its cool and really fun that DC is wanting to try something new. I don't think theres anything wrong with that at all. If what someone said is true and that WW and SM are going to be on the outs at some point, it may be fun to see what a superhero break up between two mainstays in the JL would be like, especially since they always work together and are around each other.

Its just going to be Wonder Woman nagging at Superman all issue.

@hollowprince65: Nope, if they break up, Supes is going to use his forget-me-kiss to make Wonder Woman forget that they ever dated. Then everything will just go back to normal.

I don't think we should judge a character based on the ignorance of 'most people' though. Yes, she is saved often by Superman but really, so what? She is a human character that is(was) in a relationship with an all-powerful being who fights other all-powerful beings. The same thing happened when Wonder Woman dated Trevor Barnes. He was a damsel in distress until his ultimate demise but there was certainly more to the character than that. It is up to you as the reader to educate yourself on these characters, to find their role beyond the obvious.

All characters are a target in a comic book. From Spider-Man to Superman, no one is off limits to at least a temporary death. No one stays dead in comics so I don't understand why this is such a major problem.

Okay, you have a negative opinion of DC. That is fine. I don't share your opinion for the majority of the staff at DC though. Granted, things can always get better and lately, some of the stories have been less than impressive but here we have DC trying to do something new and you can't even extend them the benefit of the doubt? I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this subject. I loved Swamp Thing so I have full confidence in Soule.

Well I really miss back when the New 52 was about giving small or fringe characters a chance to thrive. But this book doesn't sound like a terrible idea. Superman/Batman was a great series, and although the dynamic between those two characters is a little more unique than that of Superman and Wonder Woman, I can see this working.