superman and goku who's a better character

Netheir as there both equal in my book. Superman gets the slight edge for being an older character,and plus since Goku was obviously inspired by Supes. But i honestly dont think Supes or Goku is better or worse then the other. Their just so different and come from such vastly different worlds and much different writing styles and stroylines thats a bit hard to compare. I mean ones a product of the Japanese manga market and the other the American comic book market, both markets are such miles apart in terms of almost everything especially story.

Goku is the Hero of Hero's. He's not OP like superman, much more likable, and he's far from perfect. He actually dies which is cool, rather than with superman battles; which more than likely will end up with him living.

They're both equal imo. I've been more interested in Superman lately, though. Probably because I know less about him than I do Goku. I need to rewatch DBZ sometime, though. I've forgotten a bit.

Goku is a retard.

I take a good alien boy with actual formal education who uses his powers for good over a braindead hillbilly who doesnt give a shit about his family and only wants eat and fight

Superman. If this was vegeta totally different story

@heatforce:

Without superman no Goku? You realize Goku is based of Son Wukong from journey to the west right?

I do and where did the origin come from again about an alien, who's world was destroyed, was launched to earth as a baby and raised by the elderly? And then said alien becomes the world's greatest hero...

The parallels between Superman and Goku are obvious IMO.

@heatforce:

1) Gokus planet was destroyed, it didn't just blow up

2) Goku was sent to Earth to destroy it not to escape the planets doom

3) when Goku first got statrted he was just superhuman he wasn't like superman at all.

@heatforce: toriko sucks friend lol

Come on bro. Superman has been around since 1938. Did you not see the parelles when you were typing your response? Naruto, Toriko, One Piece, HxH, etc. were all inspired, in some way, by Dragonball. I see more of Superman's origin in Dragonball than I do Goku in most other shonens that were inspired by his story.

@heatforce:

They only thing they have in common is that they're both aliens. That's it.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/superman/comic-book-talk-goku-supermans-similarities-a52134

The world building is great. The characterization is a bit weak tbh and I did sorta lose interest in Toriko after the timeskip but I wouldn't say it sucks IMO. I still plan on finishing it sometime. One thing I do appreciate about Toriko though: capture levels.

You should call Kenny Loggins. You're obviously in the Danger Zone.

Especially if you're implying Goku doesn't have character development, just because it happened when he was growing up in DB. Goku only has one version of himself, and he's an adult now.

He's gone through his developmental stage, same as Superman. Except Clark just keeps getting rebooted and or seen from a different Earth. Pre-Flashpoint Superman was a great character, despite not having changed arguably since the Infinite Crisis.

@heatforce: I definitely like that we can get a sense of their levels. Ten fully trained and equipped soldiers per level, right?

I just can't stand how formulaic it is and Komatsu is so annoying.

As for OP: I think overall Superman has been a better, more inspirational, more humanizing character.

It's a matter of opinion...

Goku

Superman is a total snooze fest most of the time. Yes, he has good stories, but he has a lot of bad ones too. Like his name would suggest, he is a generic character with a strong moral compass, his moral compass is kinda stupid, but that's another topic. Writers don't know what to do with him. They think the only way to make him interesting is to make him batman, but then that makes him a total different character.

@scouterv: The "Pre Flashpoint" era is known as Post Crisis.

by that logic keeping up with the Kardashians is probably the best show ever lol

@risingbean: Same thing.

Yes I beleive so. Another thing I appreciate is Toriko (the main character) is really smart. He's not perfect though. I was a little mad that he wasn't more upset when Ichiryu died.

Yeah Toriko has become a bit formulaic IMO.

Goku for all except villain stories.

Goku. Superman had its cool parts here and there, though.

Who gives a sh*t.

You since you posted.

Superman, no contest, anyone who says otherwise is in deep blind denial. people don't watch db for the story or characters but for dumb action

@shadowjax: they could be in denial or they could just have different opinions and point of view than you.

different stokes for different folks.

Superman,when written at his best is a more complex and interesting character.Having over 70 years of continuous comics,reboots,and reboots of reboots along with a wide supporting cast,Clark is a more relatable character.

However,I still like Goku more.People are wrong when they say Goku doesn't care about his friends or family,and that he's just a braindead manchild.Goku's simplicity is the beauty of his character,and he makes for a far more entertaining character than superman,who struggles due to over used ideas and is ultimately bland at times.

So think of it this way,a character from a classic piece of sophisticated literature may bring a very well written character to the table,but that character isn't necessarily liked over a more simple,yet unique fun character.

@fat_hobo389: please, any anime fan knows dragon ball has a nothing story and bland characters, anybody who says otherwise is just virtue signalling for the sake trying to win arguments due to the competitive nature of dbz fans

@shadowjax: that's partially true.

it's true that dbz fans don't watch it for characters or story but that doesn't mean that it doesn't have characters and character developments.

goku's character is like a pure hearted child like character , the other main characters like krillin, trunks, vegeta, gohan, piccolo all have their own traits as characters.

and you'll be surprised to see how much those characters have been developed into different characters.

so goku does have a character whether it is bland compared to superman or better character than superman that totally depends on personal opinions.

@fat_hobo389: Typical goal post moving, this is about Goku's shit character not the other characters

@fat_hobo389: vegeta has the best character development in the franchise and the best backstory same with future trunks there the only two characters who are well written

@shadowjax: what goal post moving? you're the one who said dbz has bad story and bland characters in reply to which I gave the examples. you're the one who bought up the entire franchise in the first place.

and again whether goku's character is shit or not depends on a person's opinion.

fat_hobo389:Superman is a story about a god among men

Goku is a story of going beyond what you were meant to be.

Superman has certain weaknesses that make him human and changes him.

Goku's only real weakness is himself

Goku has never stopped fighting. He has always fought and never doubted himself. Superman has

Goku never takes the easy way out and always wants to see a person at the fullest potential.

just recently, Vegeta stated that they were nearing their limit, but goku didn't care. He wanted to be at his very best.

this is why Goku's a far better character to me.

they put no effort into writing goku lol

Kal. Even when I was into DB, I was really only in it for Krillin, Gohan, Piccolo, and Trunks, everyone else could suck it.

Goku fans constantly virtue signalling with the idea that he's trains like something as shallow as that makes him a good character

I haven't read the thread because I'm positive it will send me into a rage. All I want to say is that they're both two of my favorite characters, but COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from an appeal standpoint. But I feel like Goku is going to get the short end of the stick, because 90% of U.S. residents don't properly get the character.

Son Goku is the modern embodiment of thousands of years worth of Asian culture and literature. He is by far one of the most unique, standout, and memorable protagonists there is. The amount of pure charm Akira Toriyama was able to give this character is outstanding. There are two extremes to the fanbase; those who grew up watching the FUNimation dub of DEE BEE ZEE on Toonami and think that Goku is an inspiring, do-gooding superhero who fights supervillains to techno music, and those who respond to that by taking the opposite extreme and try to portray Goku as some amoral sociopath. Neither is true, obviously. Goku is so much more complex -- yes I said complex -- then either bland description. To summarize, he is a man who clearly knows right from wrong and will always go out of his way to help people who need it, but his utter pure heartedness often comes across (mostly to those in the west because our culture differs so much from Asia) as either naivety, selfishness, callous disregard, or even downright stupidity.

He and Superman are similar in that when they're written on point, they are a positive joy. But when they fumble, things just get immensely boring.

@nickzambuto: they don't get goku's character? or they don't want to get?

@jumpstart55: Goku wasnt inspired by superman.

Batman and Piccolo stomp both

True... good they are giving Piccolo more screen time, I feel like he is not getting much love in Super.

Also, on topic, it depends, which version of Superman, and which version of Goku, because Goku in the manga is not the dumbass that the anime depicts.

@fat_hobo389: Wow. Trippy...

Superman any day