In terms of:
Strength.
Striking.
Combat Speed.
Durability.
Stamina.
1. Strength, as in physical strength, it’s SK Yhwach, but honourable mentions to BYM Naruto in terms of striking strength.
2. Striking, technically it’s Jugram Haschwalth. He completely ignores durability so technically, if you’re 3D or even intangible, you’re getting cut. Even though they don’t come close, honourable mentions to Adult Sasuke.
3. Best combat speed in the HST is SK Yhwach. His attacks can’t be dodged regardless of what you do, and has future sight and infinite perception speed. Even though they don’t come close, honourable mentions to Kaido and BYM Naruto.
4. Durability is SK Yhwach. No selling attacks from Bankai Ichigo and Aizen. Honourable mentions to Isshiki, who survived being literally brutally pummelled by BYM Naruto.
5. SK Yhwach and Aizen, Kaguya and Madara, a lot of people are on too by the virtue of being completely immortal. Probably SK Yhwach though, the power he absorbed was stabilising Soul Society for tens of millions of years.
1. Strength- Whitebeard, or Sakura
(Whitebeard in terms of pure physical strength, can rival giants and is greater than Diamond Jozu who can easily lift a big piece of ice and throw it casually).
(Sakura sure can't spam bijuu bomb or whatever, but she got this in physicals, honestly she rivals whitebeard here, and she can demolish anyone if she just got speed)
2. Striking- Yhwach (one shotting the old painter guy in soul palace; what was his name, the guy with the big brush? Yhwach got tons of other hax too)
3. Combat speed- Ichigo, or Yhwach
(Ichigo, I think is fastest in his final getsuga tensho, he was blitzing Aizen; I think he is even faster than Yhwach, its just that Yhwach got precog and tons of hax to dodge Ichigo's attacks)
4. Durability- Aizen (immortal), or Kaguya (although not sure, is she immortal?)
5. Stamina- Kaido
(Jack fought for 5 days and nights; admirals fought for 10 days, , and via scaling Kaido should rank higher than Jack and admirals; and we already saw him tanking almost all attacks on roof)
1- Naruto
he literally held a sword that cut the moon with his bare hands, no one in hst did anything close to that in strength.
2- Daemon Hax
3-Baryon naruto literally played with FTL characters like isshiki.
4- Kaguya,kaguya would survive being completely destroyed along with its size, etsb erases time and space, kaguya has impressive immortality compared to hst.
5- Naruto ?kaguya?
Lol I’m lost what is HST?
Holy Shounen Trinity.
It was when Bleach, Naruto and One Piece were the 3 most popular Shounens. Or at least I think they were the most popular at the time.
@mekboy: so the big 3 in weeb talk was “ holy shounen trinity” interesting
I am gonna exclude PSK , we have no idea how physically powerful he is
1. In what sense , Lifting or Physical? Anyway , rather irrelevant as that would be Baryon Mode Naruto
2. Baryon Mode Naruto again
3. Again Baryon Mode Naruto
4. Yhwach/Kaguya/Prime Hagoromo e.t.c.
5. Yhwach ? Kaguya ? Jyuubi Jinchurukis? IDK
1. Yhwach
2. Yhwach
3. Yhwach
4. Yhwach
5. Yhwach
Strength - Baryon Mode Naruto.
Striking - Baryon mode Naruto
Combat Speed - Baryon mode Naruto.
Durability - Kaguya for being able to tank an attack that can erase matter, and space time the size of her multiple stars filled dimension. But Baryon mode Naruto and Isshiki should scale above her.
Stamina - Prime Isshiki.
How can anyone be possibly stronger than SK Yhwach, and who else ignores durability with their striking except Haschwalth? Who?
@divinespawn: @epichotflame: @seb178: How on earth is Daemon’s ability striking?
@ninjarizer: Bcs his hax ignores durability
@seb178: His hax isn't the only hax that ignores durability, and he can't just use it whenever he wants, he relies on the opponent having mal intentions.
There are far better "striking" that completely ignore durability, including DMS Kakashi (Kamui Raikiri), Haschwalth with the Balance, Ichibei with Ichimonji. You could even argue TSB is superior.
@ninjarizer: Thats not it his hax will reflect damage if he's in danger and his hax is passive too
@seb178: But he doesn’t strike anyone, if anything the opponents strike themselves. Haschwalth’s hax is far superior to Daemon’s regardless, AND it can be used for striking to directly ignore durability.
@ninjarizer: I don't understand what you meant by "he doesn't strike anyone" but yes you are right jugram is also candidate for best striking
@ninjarizer: his hax reflects damage that would have happened to him back to his opponents and the best striking are always the opponents striking damaging themselves.
And yes his ability is passive
@ninjarizer: and in terms of stats BYM Naruto >>> HST for now
and in terms of stats BYM Naruto >>> HST for now
BYM Naruto is above Senna's explosions now?
Furthermore, when the Soul King dies this happens, sketched by Kubo himself:
Therefore unequivocally, SK Yhwach is multi-planet level in durability and AP at a minimum by author depiction. It's very obvious he could tank this destruction, which is caused by an incredibly powerful force that surrounds inter-planetary ranges.
There is no doubt he has at least multi-planet level physicals by clear author depiction, which is far above BYM Naruto. What feats does Naruto have to contend with this?
@ninjarizer: firstly, senna explosion was in a movie which I dont think is canon and secondly where does it say it pushes away 2 dimensions?
And I didn’t see any sketch maybe it didn’t upload or something.
Kaguya can tank her ETSO that was going to erase matter and space time in her dimension filled with stars and planet. Baryon mode Naruto >> Isshiki>>>Kaguya
firstly, senna explosion was in a movie which I dont think is canon and secondly where does it say it pushes away 2 dimensions?
The First Bleach movie was made canon by Kubo here:
And I didn’t see any sketch maybe it didn’t upload or something.
It's uploaded, you just have to click it, they are in the far right corner.
Kaguya can tank her ETSO that was going to erase matter and space time in her dimension filled with stars and planet. Baryon mode Naruto >> Isshiki>>>Kaguya
Even if this was true, this can solely be attributed to the fact that Kaguya can't be harmed by TSB. You wouldn't say that Kaguya could tank a supernova, which would be far below the level of destruction you're claiming from TSB, correct?
Furthermore, claiming that Kaguya can somehow move in a place without spatial dimensions or time is far into the regions of wank. I don't believe either time or space was going to be destroyed by Kaguya, as it would be entirely redundant to do so in the context of the fight, and any person who can tank this level of destruction wouldn't and theoretically couldn't be harmed by any physical strike, unless it was above the concepts of space and time.
@ninjarizer: how will that convince someone that it was made by kubo? And yh just saw the ones u uploaded before it was showing white so it blended with the background
Please show me where it says “ this can solely be attributed to the fact that Kaguya can't be harmed by TSB” or anything close in the manga. Can supernova erase matter the size of her dimension? And fair point for the erasing space time part, I think your right.
how will that convince someone that it was made by kubo?
https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Bleach-chapter-675.html
Every single chapter, scroll down to the bottom from 675 to 684. This is the official Viz Translation. It's not some fan-made drawing, he literally did it for hundreds of chapters. Here's some more:
Please show me where it says “ this can solely be attributed to the fact that Kaguya can't be harmed by TSB” or anything close in the manga.
It doesn't say it anywhere, I'll admit it's just speculation.
Can supernova erase matter the size of her dimension?
Maybe. We have no idea how big it is. Are you claiming Kaguya is Star level?
And fair point for the erasing space time part, I think your right.
Alright, glad we see eye to eye on that
Lmao at some of these answers. No naruto character has the best stamina. In fact they have the worst stamina out of the entire HST.
1. Most likely yhwach
2. Either yhwach or BYM naruto. For the people taking hax into consideration then attacking a concept>>>>>then daemon or jugram
3. Yhwach w/ almighty is fastest.
4. Again yhwach or maybe BYM naruto but he never really took any hits
5. Again likely yhwach though maybe a OP character will take this spot by EOS
This all excludes PSK though
@ninjarizer: I don’t get what I’m meant to look for in the manga cuz I know that’s cannon lol. Unless u mean that Kubo referencing the movie at the bottom side of the manga means it’s cannon?
We have an idea how big it is due to us seeing stars and more space to fit in more stars plus them being on a planet, all within 1 dimension (kaguya has 5/6).
U still haven’t answered my previous questions btw but I’ll copy and paste them again for you:-
secondly where does it say it pushes away 2 dimensions?
@faradaysloth: Yhawch doesn't have visionary, because Gremmy didn't actually die.
@faradaysloth: Yhawch doesn't have visionary, because Gremmy didn't actually die.
Gremmy's remains were used to help create Hikone.
@faradaysloth: didn't Gremmy only supply reiatsu to Hikone, which is why I'm pretty sure that he wasn't dead. Also because Gremmy's real body was the brain in the jar which didn't get hurt with TYBW to my know.
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