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So yes folks, another Star Wars thread relating to the Galactic Empire. Now this thread we shall be looking at the Imperial Army Troopers! The standard foot trooper of the Galactic Empire.

Yes folks, despite many a belief, Stormtroopers weren't the main ground trooper for the Empire in Star Wars. Stormtroopers were the elite shock troops, hitting hard and fast or doing special missions IE: Death Star plans, defending the Endor Shield Generator and so on.

The Imperial Army Troopers are the main force and do a lot of the fighting, while they aren't shown much they do have some pretty nice accolades.

So let's get to it then!

For Stormtroopers thread: Stormtrooper respect thread

For Royal Guard thread: Imperial Royal Guard

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Sourcebook/Guide Quotes

Army Troopers make up a vast number of the Empire's planet bound fighting forces. These soldiers are trained to only fight, and they do it very well. They are taught all manner of combat techniques, hand to hand, blaster pistol, grenade and heavy weapons are just some of the areas these soldiers are expected to excel in.

- Taken from Imperial Sourcebook 2nd edition

Taught all manner of combat techniques, including H2H, blaster, grenade and heavy weps. They are expected to not just know these things, but to excel in each area.

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Proficient in heavy weps, blaster pistols/rifles and simple weapons. They have blast helmets and vests and are also adept at fighting unarmed.

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Helmet comlinks, survival gear and utility belts, also grenades.

The Imperial Army is highly trained and able to put up a good fight. SpecForce respects the Army's power and skill.

- Taken from Rules of Engagement: Rebel SpecForce Handbook

The Imperial Army Troopers are noted as highly trained and able to put up a great fight against the Rebellion's SpecForces and are given respect by them for their power and skill.

With the New Order, the Army was completely overhauled. Rigorous training and recruitment programs were re-established, and the missions of the Army were expanded. Drop missions into hostile territory were considered routine for normal troopers rather than the province of a few elite units. Training for complex assaults were considering the norm.

- Taken from Imperial Sourcebook 2nd edition

Army Troopers go through rigorous training, what was once considered select missions for elite units were considering routine for normal troopers and complex assaults were normal training for them too.

The Imperial Army Academy was on Raithal, in the Colonies. Most of its cadets endured a grueling 1 year long training program that included simulation and live fire drills in drop camps on a variety of worlds.

- Taken from The Essential Guide to Warfare.

Army Troopers go through 1 grueling year of simulation and live fire drills in various drop camps on a number of different worlds.

We'll make you fitter and healthier than you have ever been. By the end of it, you'll be tired but fit: ready to take on anything the galaxy can throw against you. The Imperial Army is the best in the galaxy, that means every soldier is highly trained to carry out the various jobs demanded of him. In the Imperial Army we don't send you into battle half trained. We have a galaxy to protect and have no use for dead soldiers.

So weither your a member of an armored unit, infantry regiment, the artillery, engineers or communications corp, we ensure that your basic training is second to none.

- Taken from Imperial Sourcebook 2nd editon

The Army makes their Troopers fitter and healthier than they have ever been, they are highly trained and their training is described as second to none.

At drop camp we aim to prepare you for every situation that you're likely to face. We train you in the types of environment you will be seeing the most action in. For most regiments this will be on standard worlds with a wide mix of terrain types. We'll teach you to survive and operate in jungles, deserts, swamps, arctic regions, forests and how to handle yourself under different planetary gravities.

- Taken from imperial Sourcebook 2nd editon

The Troopers are aimed to prepare for every situation they might come across, trained on various environment types including jungles, deserts, swamps, arctic, forests and dealing with different planetary gravities.

So even becoming an Imperial Army Trooper isn't easy, nor should it with a galaxy spanning organization, who knows what one might come across.

The Imperial Army has installations on nearly every inhabited world. For the most part, these bases train local forces and supplement the local defense forces in the event of a ground invasion.

- Taken from Lords of the Expanse Gamemaster Guide

The Imperial Army has bases on nearly every world and train the local defense forces.

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Pretty much all there is to it. There's not really many feats for em, other than some comic panels with them in battle with Stormtroopers, but haven't really shown anything. Novels, nothing in particular, same with the adventure journals.

The Army has been mostly used to run their vehicles/walkers and the like. I'm hoping that the new EU brings back the Imperial Army and Army pilots, instead of just them making Stormtroopers run everything.

Even still this shows just how even the Army Troopers are a formidable force too within the GE, the Stormtroopers and Royal Guards are just moreso.

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#1 Posted by Keenko (5187 posts) - - Show Bio

Awesome!

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#3 Edited by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio

Nice

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#4 Posted by Wolfrazer (16193 posts) - - Show Bio
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#5 Posted by mrdecepticonleader (19685 posts) - - Show Bio

Nice work with these. Got any-more planned?

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#6 Posted by Wolfrazer (16193 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrdecepticonleader: Nah, I made a Stormtrooper and Royal Guard one already. They be linked up at the top, have a look see!

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#7 Posted by YIFY (1599 posts) - - Show Bio

Taught all manner of combat techniques, including H2H, blaster, grenade and heavy weps. They are expected to not just know these things, but to excel in each area.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

-yify

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#8 Posted by Wolfrazer (16193 posts) - - Show Bio

@yify: Not sure what's funny?

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#9 Posted by YIFY (1599 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolfrazer: The Imperial army excelling with Blasters. XD

-yify

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#10 Edited by RetconCrisis (5593 posts) - - Show Bio

@yify: To be honest they've done a good job of shooting and killing rebels. It's just that the main characters have a plot shield around them. And Ewoks.

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#11 Posted by Wolfrazer (16193 posts) - - Show Bio

@retconcrisis: Even that, they have been hit in the EU and movies. But let's not derail the topic here.

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#12 Posted by Eisenfauste (17366 posts) - - Show Bio

Verry noice.

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#13 Posted by Fated_Xtasy (177 posts) - - Show Bio

Excellent thread. Nice to see these guys are tougher than people make them out to be.

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#14 Edited by Wolfrazer (16193 posts) - - Show Bio

@fated_xtasy: Which to be honest is kinda a head scratchier, it's a galaxy spanning Empire with many inhabitants of all varying types, many planets that vary and so on. So....it confuses me as to why people put them at best at planetary level, when that's not so. Or comparing them to comic book thugs from a crime organization and they'd be beaten just as easy and it's like....no.

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@mrdecepticonleader: Nah, I made a Stormtrooper and Royal Guard one already. They be linked up at the top, have a look see!

Yeah I have seen those too.

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#16 Posted by MErulezall (3697 posts) - - Show Bio

Excellent thread. Nice to see these guys are tougher than people make them out to be.

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#17 Posted by Namasthetu (415 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolfrazer:

Individually they are close to that level. Their strength comes from training as a unit (like most armies). They are not warriors per se and the best are those who move to elite units.

Now that all doesn't mean they should be underestimated. Individually they would vary from street level grunts to proficient soldiers. As a group they will execute commands efficiently and their officers will be the few superior soldiers who do not become part of elite units. Even a squad will be greater than the sum of its parts. Once you hit platoon strength they should really shine. Order and discipline are their strong points and the larger the group the more methodical and unrelenting they become as a force. An individual or two may only be equivalent to average bounty hunters, but squad on squad and up they break away hard.

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#18 Edited by Wolfrazer (16193 posts) - - Show Bio

@namasthetu: Well yeah that's what I mean, but when people usually see a squad of just Stormtroopers or Army Troopers, they just assume they are gonna be like a regular group of thugs in comics, when a squad of either would kick the teeth in of the former. Individually, I still put them up your average thug considering their training, their weapon loadout also makes a big bit of difference considering the resources at their disposal.

So that is also a factor, because compared to a thug who'd have a knife or gun. These guys can have anything from knives to grenades, to blasters, to heavy weapons considering they are all trained and excel in such things.

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#19 Posted by Young_Murloc (1066 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolfrazer: In your opinion how many Imperial army troops equal one stormtrooper? How many stormtroopers equal one Royal guard?

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#20 Edited by Wolfrazer (16193 posts) - - Show Bio

@young_murloc: Hmm....an interesting question.

4 Army Troopers = 1 Stormtrooper

I feel this is fair, given that Stormtroopers go through hell and beyond in their training for a total of 3 years on a high gravity world and even then only the ones that actually make it through training(mean the rest die) are the best of them.

2nd question.

6 Stormtroopers = 1 Royal Guardsmen

This one is a little more tricky, but I feel fair given that Guardsmen are capable of doing pretty much the impossible, escaping heavy Imperial controlled planets and a mere 5 of them being able to just about slaughter a small army of Stormtroopers. Their training is even more brutal than the Stormtrooper's and they are the best trained in the Empire.

Ontop of this they can also come from Imperial SpecForce Stormtroopers too, which also adds a degree of versatility in there.

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#21 Posted by Young_Murloc (1066 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolfrazer: Ok thanks alot, that's really cool and helpful.

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#22 Posted by Wolfrazer (16193 posts) - - Show Bio

@young_murloc: Again my opinion, so take as you will, but that's how I see it and thanks for enjoying this read, I have other SW threads linked up in one of my blogs, if ya wanna look at em.

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#23 Posted by Young_Murloc (1066 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolfrazer: Yea, I did enjoy this a lot. Also, I read of few of your threads and plan on reading the others.