Should Avengers: Endgame be studied in film courses?

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Poll Should Avengers: Endgame be studied in film courses? (107 votes)

Yes 36%
No 64%

It's not uncommon to hear about The Dark Knight being talked about in film courses, so should Endgame be used as well?

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Lol why is this still a thing

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lol at the idea that the MCU should be studied in film courses.

There is literally a college course on the MCU at the University of Baltimore
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No. There is little to no depth to be studied at all.

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Endgame as a whole was literally just fan service in its entirety, and poorly done fan service at that.

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@adamtrmm:

Go onto youtube. Type in "dark knight video essay" and hit search. You'll see.

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Only the MCU as a whole

Endgame was an objectively bad movie!

Still pretty fun though

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It is the greatest film ever made, so yeah it should at least be mentioned.

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@rabumalal: greatest film ever? Lol not even a top 10 Mcu movie

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Go onto youtube. Type in "dark knight video essay" and hit search. You'll see.

There are video essays about every second decent movie.

If anything, there should be a lesson at how to not cut certain scenes. I have two pals who are huge TDK junkies and when we watched the "why so serious son" scene and I ruined it for them forever. You see, there's a moment of extremely sloppy editing when Joker supposedly cuts Jai White's character, but because the montage is so bizarre we cannot even know for sure what exactly he even did to him. There are seconds of action that are simply absent from the scene. He clearly kills him, but we see no ACTION taken at all in the transition of the shots, from front to back, he simply falls as if it's supposed to mean anything. It really ruined a what was supposed to be an amazing scene, start to finish. Here's MJW comment on that:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/dark-knight-michael-jai-white-explains-gambols-death-scene-1125924

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There are better films to study

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@adamtrmm:

???

Nolan cuts to a shot of a thug cringing, which clearly indicates that Joker killed him, presumably by cutting his face open and leaving him to bleed out, or maybe jamming the knife up through the top of his mouth into his brain, or any number of possible methods. The fact is it doesn't matter exactly how Joker killed him. The point is that it was gruesome enough for the thug to cringe like that.

He didn't want the film to be overtly violent (I think Nolan just doesn't really have an affinity for that style of filmmaking), so he portrays a scene of sadistic violence through implication.

And just because thee are video essays for 'every second decent movie' doesn't mean that you can't learn something from them. Just because a film is not up to your standard doesn't mean it should not be analysed, because something or the other can be learned from the vast majority of seriously composed texts, and The Dark Knight is no different.

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As a film student. No. Marvel movies are formulaic in how they are produced, plot points can be guessed before they're even set up. If anything, the MCU should be used as an example of how to you VFX correctly without becoming stale (Doctor Strange and Black Panther aside).

The MCU as a whole is a great popcorn binge, but from a analytical perspective, terrible. Hence why so many high-end directors are saying they're bad. Anyone can direct a MCU since none of them will actually flop.

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#64  Edited By BOC

Not a film student but what's there to study from it? In terms of cbms other than TDK, I can only think of SM 2 being used (haven't seen Joker yet.)

Edit: Even then, I don't know if I'd say it should be used.

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No. There is little to no depth to be studied at all.

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no cbm should be

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lol

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MCU must be taken note in its production, managment, and studio's control value not storywriting or other stuff.

EG is special because it's a finale to more than twenty films, without them, it's a summer blockbuster meh (just like all the other MCU films).

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#72  Edited By KillBilly

As a franchise/cinematic achievement, sure. Not for its story though.

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As a franchise/cinematic achievement, sure. Not for its story though.

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As a franchise/cinematic achievement, sure. Not for its story though.

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No... i love the film but it was made for entertainment and nothing else

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I mean, it's not exactly a deep movie with strong underlying symbolism.

It's a fun movie and pretty well made in terms of being a endsong for the first phase of the MCU, but there's nothing.....really there, if you catch my drift.

I get what you mean and what you're trying to get at, but "deep movies with strong underlying symbolism" are far from the only movies that deserve to be analysed and studied and film courses. Pulp Fiction is not a "deep movie with strong underlying symbolism", but it is still studied for it's dialogue. Different movies have different strengths and "deep movies" aren't the only movies that deserve to be learnt from :)

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#77  Edited By Yassassin

I mean sure, like another user said, as a marketing endeavor, not for its quality as a film.

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#80  Edited By Supermod111

Sure, for a VFX course.