Secret Invasion (2023) TV Series Discussion Thread [Spoilers]

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Not sure if it's just where I come from, but the marketing and publicity for this has been really bad. Had no idea it was releasing.

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#3  Edited By TobeyMaguire84

Who is gonna watch a superhero show without any superheros. Making secret invasion into a tv show was big billion dollar mistake by Marvel. It would have been perfect for Captain Marvel and Avengers movie

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@tobeymaguire84: Rhodes is in it, and we may see Super Skrull? That could end up being a fight for the finale.

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#5  Edited By J_Normal

Hell of a first episode.

RIP to and MCU vet :(

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@tobeymaguire84:

I mean this show is basically the equivalent to Peacemaker if you think about it.

Except Fury is a more popular character than Peacemaker and the Skrulls are a more popular antagonist than the Butterflies

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#7 death4bunnies  Moderator  Online

Just watched the first episode.. looks dope and I have tons of questions.

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Promo for e2 has me pretty hyped too.

Looks like we will see some powered skrulls …..at least tentacles.

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@krisbishop: Judging from the trailer, President Ritson is gonna be killed by Gravik looking like Fury or Fury kills Ritson because the president is a Skrull which opens the door for Secretary Ross to become the new commander and chief. Red Hulk in the Oval Office...whoop whoop!!! Its a pity about Maria Hill. I didn't realize Cobie Smulders was tired of being Hill. I hold out hopes that this Hill was a Skrull who was sympathetic to Fury and Talos but then again she would have shifted back to her original form once she died.

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@j_normal: I felt the butterflies could have had a connection to Mr. Mind if Gunn reviewed the antagonists from other heroes. White Dragon's connection to neo nazis was a good move to tie into Peacemaker's original comic book origin. Other members of the Aryan Brigade could have been utilized though.

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@tobeymaguire84: I agree this could have been reserved for a big crossover film with the Fantastic Four, Captain Marvel and Nick Fury leading the charge. However, we have to remember Feige and the MCU are infamous for missed opportunities while making mistakes that could have been avoided if they had thought it through.

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#11  Edited By EmmaFrostXmen

the writer was told not to read the comic so he didn’t… not a good sign

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@j_normal said:

Hell of a first episode.

RIP to and MCU vet :(

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I'm holding out on copium that Hill will somehow survive.

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Judging from the trailer, President Ritson is gonna be killed by Gravik looking like Fury or Fury kills Ritson because the president is a Skrull which opens the door for Secretary Ross to become the new commander and chief. Red Hulk in the Oval Office...whoop whoop!!! Its a pity about Maria Hill. I didn't realize Cobie Smulders was tired of being Hill. I hold out hopes that this Hill was a Skrull who was sympathetic to Fury and Talos but then again she would have shifted back to her original form once she died.

That does seem likely! This Skrull stuff has a lot of potential for plot twists and reveals imo.

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I'm holding out on copium that Hill will somehow survive.

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Secret Invasion Episode 1 was Pretty Good. Curious to see where they will go with it.

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looks promising so far

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I'm holding out on copium that Hill will somehow survive.

Same. It was odd she wasn't in the opening credits.

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@tobeymaguire84: I agree this could have been reserved for a big crossover film with the Fantastic Four, Captain Marvel and Nick Fury leading the charge. However, we have to remember Feige and the MCU are infamous for missed opportunities while making mistakes that could have been avoided if they had thought it through.

Carol is the reason the skrulls are on earth, The skrulls betraying her and trying to take over her home Planet had so much potential story wise for her. The concept of character arc no longer seems to be a thing in current MCU

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Didn't expect all this negativity.

I thought this was a good start. Fairly subdued although I didn't expect the episode to ramp up as much as it did

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Its the first episode so things need to get set up. I'll wait and hold judgement. What Marvel doesn't want to happen is that at the end of this series they don't want fans to say "the comic was a lot better".

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#23 owie  Moderator

It was ok. They told us Fury had "lost a step" like 3 times, so no points for subtlety.

I liked that the scene of the skrull kids playing soccer recalled the old print ads for the original comic.

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Who is gonna watch a superhero show without any superheros. Making secret invasion into a tv show was big billion dollar mistake by Marvel. It would have been perfect for Captain Marvel and Avengers movie

Yes. Any super skrull can stomp the entire cast of characters in this show. Its already on the wrong foot and deflating from the lore. Such a waste.

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Why did this show use AI art for the intro lol

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@geekryan said:
@krisbishop said:

I'm holding out on copium that Hill will somehow survive.

Same. It was odd she wasn't in the opening credits.

If she really died in the first episode I’m thinking maybe the actress doesn’t want to play her anymore.

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#27  Edited By KillianDuclark

This show makes no sense to me. Why are skrulls in hiding in the first place?

The people of Earth seem pretty chill about the Asgardians.

And I'm calling it now, Gravik is Fury's Skrull ex-wife's son who he basically adopted.

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@death4bunnies: Yeah. The frost beast kinda looks like a rancor there though ha.

Kinda cool how they’re tying things together with these aliens scattered across the MCU.

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@krisbishop: I should have saw it coming with Nick Fury having a Skrull wife. It seems kind of hypocritical though that she has to be in human form before they embrace each other. Then again maybe he doesn't know that she is a Skrull which would be unlike him.

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@tobeymaguire84: I agree with you about the character arc. The Captain Marvel movie was like a watered down version of the Kree-Skrull War but Secret Invasion could have been a great comeback sequel for her and Spectrum but minus Kamala Khan. However, Carol Danvers is the big gun when it comes to huge threats. She would only be needed when the Power or Super Skrulls come into play which seems pretty soon from today's episode.

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@death4bunnies: Super Skrulls. I'm hoping Norman Osborn is a Skrull in the MCU. It would explain away the Green Goblin look. As for Hobgoblin, maybe he can be an albino Skrull.

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Quake vs Super Skrull Garik. Calling it now.

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Episode 2 of Secret Invasion was Ok I guess. It's not a bad show and not nearly as lackluster as She Hulk which some was comparing to.

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I’m honestly not that impressed yet. A show with a lot of potential and it’s being wasted by being mediocre.

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I find myself not being invested in any given conversation between characters because either one of the people talking could be a Skrull, and thus the whole thing might not matter. For instance Rhodey and Fury had a complex conversation about race and orders and ego, but it's all moot if Rhodey happens to be a Skrull.

Watching it again after it's over would help with that though.

I don't see how the Skrulls managed to all get into such positions of power in the world. It would be one thing if they killed humans and took their place, but that council didn't believe in hurting humans (at least until they all completely changed their minds after one short speech). Which means they all got their positions in the same way any human would, by getting votes and/or persuading others in power to appoint them. Seems unlikely that would work for that many Skrulls.

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Can’t for the next episode. So far it’s good and im curious on what then frost beast is needed for.

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#38  Edited By krisbishop  Moderator
@owie said:

I find myself not being invested in any given conversation between characters because either one of the people talking could be a Skrull, and thus the whole thing might not matter. For instance Rhodey and Fury had a complex conversation about race and orders and ego, but it's all moot if Rhodey happens to be a Skrull.

Watching it again after it's over would help with that though.

Thought it was just me. I was really invested in the conversation between Rhodes and Fury and then I realised it could all not matter. Price to pay for them going into this "Surprise! Anyone could be a Skrull!" line.

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I think even if he's a skrull it was a very entertaining conversation. "Even when I'm out, I'm in" is a killer line

Also, what was bad about She Hulk?

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So much for Quake appearing.

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I think even if he's a skrull it was a very entertaining conversation. "Even when I'm out, I'm in" is a killer line

Also, what was bad about She Hulk?

Is that a rhetorical question?

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Honestly it’s been great so far.

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@cosmicomic: Acting, Cgi, Practical Efforts, cringey dialogue ,bad storyline, 4th wall jokes were very bad and never landed. Then for the finale they didn't know how to finish the story so they literally made into a joke and say it was done on purpose and anyone who doesn't like it is just a hater

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@shadowknight130: the only problem was the cgi and the humor at times. The story was fine and the ending was a commentary on all the cliches everyone complained about in the previous phases

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#46  Edited By goldeneagle

I think that the show is awesome. The CGI is on point. The dialogue is some of the best I've seen since I binged GOT last year (not on that level, but the best since then,) and the story is amazing. I literally do not know what's going to happen after this weeks death. There hasn't been a main character death this sudden and big in a Marvel movie or show since, I honestly can't remember. We knew that it was bound to happen in Endgame and Infinity War, and even Love and Thunder, but in this episode, she went from totally fine, to dead in about 45 seconds.

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Show is great so far.

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@krisbishop: I am also glad to know that that's not just me feeling that!

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I have been silent for the past few weeks and now with 3 episodes left, all I say is that the series has been 🔥 and dope so far and has got me intrigued for its 3 upcoming episodes.

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The show to me has only been mediocre so far, it is a show that has so much potential that is being waste and falling victim to certain problems the mcu often has. They aren't taking any certain risks yet, the show is pretty predictable with other stuff being randomly put in there for the sake of shock value. And they skip over character development by letting us know "hey by the way Nick fury had alot of character development/change that was off screen"