Samurai 8 -- The terrifying power of Ata!

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Also Inb4 the haters say it's a small planet/moon

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Well, Samurai 8 characters will probably end up surpassing the HST as a whole if this is how it's going to be.

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#55  Edited By HitTheAssasin

@blizzard93: Interms of travel speed, definitely. I can't speak for combat speed.

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@hittheassasin: The previous chapter he cut a mountain sized asteroid while travelling to Hachimaru's planet. So him being able to cut something apart while moving at those speeds should be a combat feat.

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@adi_frost: And he cut another one in the new cover chapter...or maybe it was one of those cube planets?

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@adi_frost: Bigger than a mountain IMO, the light trail was visible from the planet in comparison to the moon. Yet the same light trail was considerably smaller when compared to the Asteroid.

It's safe to say that the Asteroid Ata cut was way bigger than just a mountain.

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@wot_m8: Tbh, it could be that the light trail got bigger when he collided with the moon as he pushed against it, kinda like an explosion. You can see the size of the light trail at the time of impact in the panel before that. Mountain sized seems about right but that feat is pointless anyway, as his collision with the moon is both offence and durability feat which both are astronomically better than the asteroid one.
I made that argument just to give an example of his combat speed.

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I saw this post. Maybe Yasha-sama is dealing with a huge star sized God or something like that.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Samurai8/comments/c8ezl5/yashasama_is_facing_somethingor_someonebeyond_our/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

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#61  Edited By Wot_m8

@adi_frost: IIRC, his light trail was also visible from his own planet when he made it to space. Ofc, we don't know the size of that planet but if it's regular sized then size of the light trail is consistent with the moon shot.

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So he already has speed feat and a new DC and durability feat?

That's all you need on comic vine.

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@wot_m8: TBH you are right. The trail was visible from his planet.
Well, we can always argue on the size but we already have a feat which is better than that, so regardless of it being mountain level or multi mountain, he still keeps his country to continental level feat which he did this chapter.

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@adi_frost: Oh, I know. I am just saying why downplay it? It's an easy Multi-Mountain to Island feat via the size of the light trail which is consistent.

But, yes, his moon feat is a much better offensive and durability feat.

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#65  Edited By JimJaspers20675

Do any of you see it surpassing Toriko power levels? Example: Gourmet god level (Galaxy+) Or will they cap out at EOS Toriko level - Large star.

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@westwood_trevor: so now he has feats is he ready to join the battle forum? Daruma already in there.

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@kalebsmarty156: I'd wait a few more chapters until he actually fights to place him in Battles

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@westwood_trevor: so now he has feats is he ready to join the battle forum? Daruma already in there.

Well, right now Ata has all the necessary to join the Battle Forum.

---> him being able to (effortlesly)cut into fragments huge asteroids while crossing the Cube Quadrant (without using his max speed) is both impressive reaction/travel speed feats. . . and of course DC.

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casually landing on that "Muun" satellite, causing a continental lvl of destruction (crater + cracks on the surface), is an offensive/durability feat.

I'd wait till the end of the prologue or at least until S.C. Ata gets defeated or else(that's right. We're still in the prologue of S8. . . till chapter 12, I guess). . . but yes, S.C. Ata can be used.

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I saw this post. Maybe Yasha-sama is dealing with a huge star sized God or something like that.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Samurai8/comments/c8ezl5/yashasama_is_facing_somethingor_someonebeyond_our/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Cool and interesting stuff.

I'd like to create a thread about it, too.

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#74  Edited By Kalebsmarty156
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Looking forward to reading this honeslty.

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@keiser994: I think the one in the cover was the same asteroid that he cut in the previous chapter.
Though I don't doubt that he can do it again.

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@westwood_trevor: Yeah, a way better scan. The debris was launched to a distance of nearly the diameter of the "muun" itself.


The official translation calls the distance that was given to Ata as 12 dai-shaku rather than 4333 meters or something. How much is that ?
Do you think it's like a distance measurement exclusive to the series which doesn't exist in real life ?

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@westwood_trevor: Yeah, a way better scan. The debris was launched to a distance of nearly the diameter of the "muun" itself.

The official translation calls the distance that was given to Ata as 12 dai-shaku rather than 4333 meters or something. How much is that ?

Do you think it's like a distance measurement exclusive to the series which doesn't exist in real life ?

Probably. I really doubt the moon is just 4km from the surface of the planet.

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@westwood_trevor: Yeah, a way better scan. The debris was launched to a distance of nearly the diameter of the "muun" itself.

The official translation calls the distance that was given to Ata as 12 dai-shaku rather than 4333 meters or something. How much is that ?

Do you think it's like a distance measurement exclusive to the series which doesn't exist in real life ?

1 dai-shaku is 35.6 cm. 12 dai-shaku is 4.272 m

The most logical explanation imo is that the planet has moved from the provided co-ordinates.

Princess Niri gave Ata the co-ordinates for Hachimaru's planet in the ball sector, so the co-ordinates were pretty much where the planet was meant to be at. Obviously when ur gonna be traveling massive galactic distances, taking roughly about 12 hours, the planet would have already shifted. Ata's AI states he was 4.272 m away form the original co-ordinate, not the current position of the planet.

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@spsamurai: Oh ok. Well then I guess he was talking about the original position of the planet or even just the coordinate from where the ball quadrant starts.

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So from the spoilers for chapter 10 Ata completely goes through the moon and curbstomps mujin dono and the other samurai. Hopefully it's a fakeout.

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#85  Edited By Wot_m8

@westwood_trevor: Well, New feat for Ata.

Ata slashed the moon, destroyed Mujin, the eagle holder, and all of those Samurai, and flew down to Earth, found Hachimaru and flew to their hideout all while Hachimaru and Ann flew back to their base. Keep in mind... Hachimaru and Ann were already flying before the fighting began and that Hayataro is easily Hypersonic in his flight speed.

I am not sure on calcs and all but that Ata is fast.

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Mujin was said to be immortal as well and Ata just simply killed the dude

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Holy mother of God! Have you seen chapter 10? Amazing stuff!

And Mujin is called "The Immortal" multiple times...trust me, he cheated death. He is a Phoenix.

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Newest chapter confirms that the federation generals might be above people like mujin.

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@wot_m8: Yeah, that's an amazing speed feat, also he crossed the diameter of the moon before the huge explosion he created could even die out.
Also, Ata did all his feats, including where he slashes through the moon using a random sword rather than his soul sword. While he had to use the soul sword to curbstomp Mujin-dono which could mean Mujin can contend with Ata who has a normal sword while Ata with a soul sword is obviously way above himself with his normal sword.

Then Daruma blocked Ata who was using a soul sword as well.

Can we scale Mujin and Daruma above normal sword Ata when it comes to DC feats ?

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Ata just curbed the Earth's strongest warrior who was also the highest possible rank. If Sensei can match Ata without a key holder he's a beast.

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I'll post everything later.

Lemme just say that. . . I'm A.M.A.Z.E.D


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Here we go, folks! Samurai 8, chapter 10 is out now. . . and it's amazing, not gonna lie:

link ---https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1003182

Now, let's back on Ata and his tremendous power. . . 'cause this monster has still a lot to show:

  • In the last chapter we've seen him landing on Muun (the moon-satellite of Hachimaru's planet) and, effortlesly, bust away a huge portion of it. Literally headbutting it.

  • But this was not the best part. In chapter 10 we can see Ata going through the moon in an instant. He pierced the whole satellite with just his physicall force.

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  • But that's not over yet. With an outstanding move Ata fights against Lord Mujin, the strongest Samurai of the planet, also called "The Immortal Garuda". . . in his Perfect Susanoo-like form.
    Remember that a normal Key Holder massively amps the durability of a Samurai thanks to the Samurai Armor. . . and Mujin has a Yokozuna-Grade Key Holder:

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. . . and after a few minutes. . .

completely mauled Garuda, the entire Spaceship Fortress. . . and everyone. Ata is completely on another level
completely mauled Garuda, the entire Spaceship Fortress. . . and everyone. Ata is completely on another level

. . . but is Lord Mujin dead? Could his title "The Immortal Garuda" hinting that he has cheated death somehow? Hax? Or maybe with an Incarnate Body, just like Ata

Edit: The Soul Orb/Clone Ata is called Incarnate Body.

Let's give some credits to Lord Mujin:

---> easily reacted and blocked Ata in his "Light Trail form", the same one used when he effortlesly:

- busted and pierced the whole Muun

- cutting into pieces huge meteoroids.


---> Ata used 2 swords (Soul Blade included) against Garuda.

There was a trial of strenght between 'em
There was a trial of strenght between 'em

  • Seems like Ata has hiw own version of far-sight (used by Princess Niri in order to find out the location of Hachimaru and Takastuna from another galactic quadrant).
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Ata. . . of the Kongo-Yasha Style?!

  • While still bullrushing through Muun, Incarnate Ata used a Kongo-Yasha Style skill. . . Mukiri a.k.a Silent Slash.

    This skill was already shown and explained by Daruma:
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So. . . what Incarnate Ata did to Muun? I have a couple of theories:

1- Ata just cut Muun in half, in order to let the satellite fall and hit 2 locations of the planet:

example from The Last
example from The Last

2- Ata has literally cut/busted Muun into pieces, creating a meteor-shower to drop against the planet:

example from The Last
example from The Last

Something about Daruma:

We can freely say that Daruma has precog. since he was able to sense the upcoming attack of Incarnate Ata and then intercept his attack:

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Master Daruma did something similar in chapter 1, against Ronin. . . but it could be something far more important than precog:

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@westwood_trevor: You missed Daruma being able to sense Mujin in outer space. Daruma's sensory field is easily planetary plus based on that alone.

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@wot_m8 said:

@westwood_trevor: You missed Daruma being able to sense Mujin in outer space. Daruma's sensory field is easily planetary plus based on that alone.

Nice catch indeed!

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@westwood_trevor: And it's also a nice feat for Ata who managed to avoid Daruma's planet+ sensory field. It can be classified as a stealth or a speed feat. IMO, it's a speed feat that he managed to almost bull rush through Daruma's incredible sensory field based on his previous speed feats.

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@wot_m8: Or maybe 'cause Incarnate Bodies do not possess any type of gravitational energy, that's why he wasn't able to track Ata. . . in other words stealth.

We'll see!

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#97  Edited By Wot_m8

@westwood_trevor: Yea but if that was the case, he shouldn't have been able to sense him at all yet he still did.

So, stealth or speed. I am leaning towards speed.

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And I'm gonna leave this here:

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@wot_m8 said:

@westwood_trevor: Yea but if that was the case, he shouldn't have been able to sense him at all yet he still did.

So, stealth or speed. I am leaning towards speed.

Oh right! Ahahaha. Seems like speed-related then.

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Holy hell, puts the size of things in perspective, huh?