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Nukes/Nuclear Bombs are powerful explosive weapons used by the military measured in megatons of force. Not much else to say so let's get right into it.

Marvel:

Many heroes would have died to a blast equal to a large nuke if not for Surfer+Sue+Rachel (Secret Wars II #9)

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Thanos plans to kill himself and everyone else with a thermal nuclear device (Infinity Gauntlet #6)

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Thanos' head is blown off by a 100 megaton explosion (Quasar #26)

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Doctor Strange believes he and Sentry would die to a thermonuclear device (Sentry #7)

Doctor Doom's life is threatened by nukes so he shuts down all nuclear power (Cloak and Dagger #10)

"If that guy had a nuke, shouldn't we all be dead?" (Avengers: Children's Crusade #1)

Giganto is killed by a small yield nuke and Thing is knocked out by the shockwave (Fantastic Four #4)

The shockwave of a small atomic bomb causes Hulk to revert to Banner (Tales to Astonish #59)

A robot designed to withstand an atomic bomb no-sells Hulk's punches (Tales to Astonish #60)

Hulk is knocked out by an exploding missile (Tales to Astonish #61)

Hulk is knocked out by Nuclear Torpedoes (Hulk 1978: #22)

Atomic missile kills a humanoid that was tanking Hulk's strongest blows (Tales to Astonish #71)

Vault of 10ft thick concrete that can withstand an atomic explosion imprisons Hulk (Incredible Hulk #2-3)

This nuke-proof vault was capable of restraining a variety of people in later years, including Grey Hulk, Professor Hulk, Amped She-Hulk, Ares, and Skaar (Hulk: Gray #2, Incredible Hulk #468, Sensational She-Hulk #19, Hulk #13, Incredible Hulks #4)

Silo that explicitly couldn't withstand an atomic bomb no-sells multiple punches from Hulk (Incredible Hulk Annual #10)

Hulk saves Warrior Madness Thor from a nuke, who is blown away by the shockwave (Incredible Hulk #440)

King Thor can only temporarily contain the power of two nuclear missiles (Thor 1998: #51)

Notice how he says "let the power of Mjolnir save US" implying the blast was lethal to him too

King Thor is downed by a nuke for several pages (Thor 1998: #66)

Ms.Marvel absorbs a thermonuclear warhead to stop Sentry (Mighty Avengers #6)

Sentry gets messed up by a nuke (Sentry/X-Men)

Silver Surfer is overwhelmed by a bunch of Nukes (Silver Surfer #11)

Surfer has to blast through the ground below a nuclear bunker to get in (Silver Surfer #13)

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Power Cosmic Johnny Storm using Sue Storm's force-field is really hurt by a nuke and thinks that more would be deadly (Fantastic Four #521)

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Doom's forcefield takes a punch from Thing but can be broken by an atomic bomb (Fantastic Four #157)

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Phoenix strains herself to her limits containing a mini-nuke (Excalibur #11)

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Magneto struggles desperately with nukes (X-Men #86)

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Ultron is powered by a miniature nuke (Avengers: Battle Against Ultron)

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The Planetary defense shield is dropped 1% by 30 nukes, and 7% by Jane, Hyperion, Blue Marvel, Spectrum, Starbrand all hitting it at full power (Captain America: Steve Rogers #14)

This shield was thousands of times more powerful than the shields of Sue Richards, Magneto, or Graviton (Captain America: Steve Rogers #9)

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Even Lifebringer Galactus couldn't breach it (Ultimates II #100)

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Underwater Namor would have been incinerated by a nuke (Namor, The Sub-Mariner #59)

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A barrier erected by Strange, Wanda, and others is something a hydrogen bomb would only have trouble piercing rather than being unable to pierce (Defenders #114)

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Black Bolt and his people would have been killed by a nuke (Amazing Adventures #1)

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Black Bolt's maximum force scream is equal to the detonation of a nuclear weapon (Avengers: Ultimate Character Guide)

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Shi'ar Gods hit like a nuclear bomb (Mighty Thor #16)

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Impact seismologists find akin to a Nuke knocks out Count Nefaria (Avengers #116)

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Dionysus and Hercules would be killed by a nuke (Solo Avengers #11)

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Hulk could survive any explosion short of an actual nuke (Incredible Hulk #5)

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Hulk is knocked out by a 20 megaton explosion (Incredible Hulk #117)

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Hulk is knocked out by a nuke (Captain America & The Incredible Hulk)

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Hulk and Namor are nothing compared to a nuke (Defenders #52)

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Fury kills Hulk with a thermonuclear bomb until the timeline is eventually reverted(Marvel UK: To Fight the Fury)

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Maestro could survive anything short of a nuke (Hulk: Future Imperfect #1)

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Beta Ray Bill is resilient to sub-megaton level ordnance (S.W.O.R.D #2)

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Megatons are capable of piercing Celestial armor (Avengers #5)

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In a future timeline all heroes died in a nuclear war (Hulk: Future Imperfect)

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In another future timeline, Hulk is the only hero alive after a nuclear war (Incredible Hulk: The End)

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In yet another future, Hulk and Thing are the only heroes alive after an atomic war (Captain America #699)

The Fantastic Four are killed by ICBMs (Avengers 1996: #12). Happened in the heroes rebornverse, but they were more than just copies and Heroes Reborn Thor was even with 616 Thor.

Terrax is hurt by a low-yield thermograde nuke (Avengers 1996: #12)

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68 Megatons is too much for She-Hulk (amped to Immortal Hulk's level) to handle (Avengers 2018: #50)

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Bullets based on the Gamma Bomb (power of a nuke without the fallout) could put a hole through Thor (Original Sin Special #5)

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Gamma Bomb incinerates Maestro (Hulk: Future Imperfect #2)

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Gamma Bomb would have killed several heroes if it dropped (Fantastic Four #368)

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DC:

Atomic Bullet is capable of killing Superman (JLA #26)

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Superman is knocked out by a nuke for 30 minutes (Superman #9)

Superman is knocked out by nukes during the daytime and gets up by nighttime (Action Comics #648)

Superman is knocked out by a nuke again (Tangent: Superman's Reign #9-10)

Superman and Mongul are knocked out by a nuke (Adventures of Superman #18)

Superman is knocked out again, this time by an East Coast cracking warhead (Superman: Up in the Sky #2)

Superman sweats and strains with a one megaton impact (Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen #1)

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Superman considers a blast that levels 10 square miles of Apokoloips more powerful than anything Darkseid has ever thrown at him (Death of the New Gods #8)

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A nuke outspeeds Superman (JLA #88)

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Superman's kamikaze attack is slightly less than 200 megatons of force (Superman Unchained #9)

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Underwater Aquaman can't stop a nuclear warhead (Flash #163)

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Wonder Woman's skin burns in a nuclear reactor (Wonder Woman #220)

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Wonder Woman nearly tears her arms off lifting a nuke (Wonder Woman #2)

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Silver Age Wonder Woman would have been defeated if she was hit a tiny nuclear bomb (Justice League of America 1960: #14)

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Orion could be killed in a 10.4 megaton explosion (Orion #20)

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Hal Jordan would have been hard pressed to block a 300 megaton blast if he was closer to it (Superman 1987: #14)

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Kyle Rayner says containing an atomic blast would be a problem (Green Lantern #135)

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Massively Amped Billy who was pummeling Spectre punches with small nuke level force (Day of Vengeance #4)

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Pre-Crisis Shazam is evenly matched by a robot with the power of an atomic explosion (Captain Marvel Adventures #78)

Nukes stagger a Space Dragon that no-sold a bullrush from Pre-Crisis Shazam (Captain Marvel Adventures #104)

Pre-Crisis Superman and WW run away from a nuke, and it kills two fighters who were evenly matched with them (All-New Collectors Edition #54)

Pre-Crisis Superman, Wonder Woman, and Alan Scott are knocked out by a nuke (All-Star Squadron #37)

Superman's panic room meant to protect against his most vicious foes can only withstand small-medium nuclear weaponry and an O.M.A.C needs several pages to get through (Superman 1987: #222)

Only a nuke could produce enough energy to power a special jacket and Superboy would have died if he was caught in the explosion (Superboy #60)

Suits that were similar to Captain Atom in power and tanked hits from the International Justice League would have died in the meltdown of a nuclear power plant (Justice League International #3)

Hal Jordan is KOed by a Nuke and drains all his power containing the blast (Green Arrow 2016: #30-31)

Kyle Rayner can barely contain a 100 megaton explosion (Green Lantern 1990: #143)

Kyle Rayner struggles to contain a Nuke, and Wonder Woman would have been killed if he didn't (JLA #55)

Imperiex Probe is killed by Sam Lane igniting the nuclear engine in his tank (Action Comics #781)

Superman's equal kills himself by triggering a nuclear meltdown (JLA: Superpower)

Nukes capable of vaporizing a county (not a country) would kill all KC superheroes (The Kingdom #4)

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Wow, really in depth Respect thread! Changed how I see high tiers honestly.

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Amazing

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#5 nwname  Moderator

Really puts how powerful high tiers are into perspective. Solid RT.

Nice thread. So high tiers are all actually consistent mid tiers with a bunch of outliers? Thanks for opening my eyes.

consistent Mid tiers are well below this level

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Wow, I always suspected that high tiers were consistently closer to city level than planet level, but this really proves it beyond a shadow of doubt! Brilliant work!

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Very nice respect thread. Pretty convincing tbh

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Very nice respect thread. Pretty convincing tbh

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Great RT. Shows how high tiers aren't as strong as I thought.

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Cue scaling dceu supes to comic high tiers

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Wow. I thought this was going to be a joke thread. Some of these are anti feats waiting to be abused.

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#12 takenstew22  Moderator

Cue scaling dceu supes to comic high tiers

DCEU Supes is stronger than a planet and the nuke almost killed him.

Intent!

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Solid and remarkable consistency indeed! I didn't really think that deeply about comic high tier power lvls till I saw this thread.

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Further proof that DCEU Doomsday can thrash Comic High tiers.

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For me personally, it reaffirmed to me how powerful a tk shield is, since the telekinetics I know of are capable of shielding from those kinds of things.

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High tiers are inconsistent as hell, sometimes they survive something powerful and then at times,they don't.

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@divyansh13: It was a joke dude.

For every city anti level feat, most high tiers probably have twice as many feats in the continent-planet range or higher.

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@mysterymeat: yeah although the problem with instantly deciding that they are city level is that how do you define the tier or level of them exactly? Do you decide that on the basis of every aspect and how strong they are in that? Or by feats and anti feats cuz every high tier has shown more feats than anti feats.

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@mysterymeat: yeah although the problem with instantly deciding that they are city level is that how do you define the tier or level of them exactly? Do you decide that on the basis of every aspect and how strong they are in that? Or by feats and anti feats cuz every high tier has shown more feats than anti feats.

TBH, as long as you're consistent with how the characters are rated in relation to eachother, it doesn't matter too much.

Like don't cherry pick feats to compare a city level Superman to a planet level Thor or anything like that.

Planet level for a long time was the agreed upon ''middle ground'' for most high tiers when weighing their city level anti feats against crazy showings well above planet level.

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@karkus: I think you could add Gamma Bombs too, they aren't far away from nukes

these include Invisible Woman containing a gamma bomb which by statements could have killed Thor and other superheroes and also the gamma bomb that vaporized Maestro

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This puts a smile on my face

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really gives you a idea of how inconsistent are showings towards other comics now that i see this thread

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@pyrofn: it's kind of silly though

Someone like thor has been in stars different times, and Beta ray bill has been in exploding planets and stars

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@pyrofn: it's kind of silly though

Someone like thor has been in stars different times, and Beta ray bill has been in exploding planets and stars

They probably have better heat and energy resistance. Don’t know how that translates to force resistance.

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@del_torro: How good is staying inside the core of a sun though? If VS Wiki is to be trusted on this, they calced that to be multi city block level (not even town level).

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DCEU Superman is stronger than Sentry

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@starsprime3: I do not trust Vsbattles... but if staying in the heart of a star is city block level then this would make sense... but I seriously doubt if vsbattles is correct

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They weren't joking when they said that DCEU doomsday adapts to Galactus blasts.

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@karkus: Nice work. I'd have some suggestions that you can add if you want to. I'll keep updating them in this thread.

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Love it!

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