- Cap
- Black Panther
- Winter Soldier
- Black Widow
- Okoye
- Killmonger
- Batman DCEU
- May
- Bobbi
- Hawkeye
- Ward
- Batman Nolan
- Daredevil
- Stick
- Sara Lance
- Deathstroke
- Bane
- Daisy
- Iron Fist
- Davos
- Ras al ghul Nolan
- Nobu
- Colleen
- Elektra
- Arrow
- Merlyn
- Katana DCEU
- Bronze Tiger
- Ras al ghul Arrow
- Black Star
Rate the best live action h2h fighters (DCEU/CW/MCU/Nolan)
@kinglouie: This can't possibly be in order
Pretty Sure top 5 are:
Matt, Arrow Oliver Queen, Arrow Ra's, Rogers and T'Challa
Not sure about the order tho
How is Cap 1?
Daredevil is a better fighter than Cap
Daredevil #1
Pretty Sure top 5 are:
Matt, Arrow Oliver Queen, Arrow Ra's, Rogers and T'Challa
Not sure about the order tho
I think he made this in reverted order. 30th is best etc.
Why are 1-6 so freaking high?
How is Cap 1?
Daredevil is a better fighter than Cap
Daredevil #1
Pretty Sure top 5 are:
Matt, Arrow Oliver Queen, Arrow Ra's, Rogers and T'Challa
Not sure about the order tho
I think he made this in reverted order. 30th is best etc.
He's asking you to rate them, not saying this is the rating he went with... C'mon now.
@supremegeneration: Then he or she shouldn't have put numbers next to names.
- Cap
- Black Panther
- Winter Soldier
- Black Widow
- Okoye
- Killmonger
- Batman DCEU
- May
- Bobbi
- Hawkeye
- Ward
- Batman Nolan
- Daredevil
- Stick
- Sara Lance
- Deathstroke
- Bane
- Daisy
- Iron Fist
- Davos
- Ras al ghul Nolan
- Nobu
- Colleen
- Elektra
- Arrow
- Merlyn
- Katana DCEU
- Bronze Tiger
- Ras al ghul Arrow
- Black Star
sorry man but this list is wrong
Superhuman
- Captain America
- Black Panther
- Deathstroke
- Winter Soldier
Peak human top tier
- Green Arrow
- Ra's al ghul
- Daredevil
- White Canary
- Iron Fist
- Davos
- Dante (?)
High tier
- Damien Darhk (enhanced)
- Prometheus
- Malcolm Merlyn
- Slade Wilson
- Stick
- Bobbi Morse
- Melinda May
- Nobu
- DCEU Batman
Mid-high tier
- Ricardo Diaz
- Vigilante
- John Diggle
- Emiko Queen
- Black Widow
- Nyssa al ghul
- Daisy
- Mick Rory
- Grant Ward
- Black Star
- Nolan Batman
- Nolan Bane
- Talia al ghul
- Nolan Ra's al ghul
- Amaya
- Thea Queen
- Dinah Drake
- Hawkeye
Mid tier
- Rene Ramirez
- Frank Castle
- Laurel Lance
- Roy Harper
- Elektra
- Colleen Wing
- Brock Rumlow
- Billy Russo
- Pilgrim
Mid-low tier
- Nolan Catwoman
- Curtis Holt
- Connor Hawke
- Evelyn Sharpe
- Ray Palmer
If we arrange it by pure skill and no stats, a rough list would be something like this:
- Green Arrow
- Daredevil
- White Canary
- Nobu
- Ra's Al Ghul
- Elektra
- Black Widow
- Cap
- Black Panther
- Killmonger
- Winter Soldier
- DCEU Batman
- Nolan Batman
Just my opinion. Honestly the top contenders are always shuffled around due to opinions.
@thesuperor: I'm surprised you rank Steve and T'Challa above Slade.
The main characters all stand distinctly apart from the rest.
That's Green Arrow, Captain America, Daredevil, even Nolan Batman has feats and capabilities above most of the side characters and villains.
The best villains are all from CW, with Ra's al Ghul, Malcolm Merlyn, and Deathstroke cleaning up Killmonger and everybody below him.
Did Ollie Queen really get that good? Damn, I stopped watching that show since S2.
Pretty Sure top 5 are:
Matt, Arrow Oliver Queen
If we arrange it by pure skill and no stats, a rough list would be something like this:
- Green Arrow
- Daredevil
The main characters all stand distinctly apart from the rest.
That's Green Arrow, Captain America, Daredevil, even Nolan Batman
Peak human top tier
- Green Arrow
- Ra's al ghul
- Daredevil
@usha: Yeah..Ollie is totally one of the most skilled h2h fighters in liveaction.
@the_hajduk: @erickagl17: @nw52: In pure skill Black Widow is the second best martial artist apart from Daredevil. It’s actually hilarious to put Captain America or Black Panther above her. Natasha does the same thing they do but without enhancements.
@the_hajduk: @erickagl17: @nw52: In pure skill Black Widow is the second best martial artist apart from Daredevil. It’s actually hilarious to put Captain America or Black Panther above her. Natasha does the same thing they do but without enhancements.
Olliver and Ras are still more skilled than her imo, Agree on Cap and Tchalla tho, she is AT LEAST equal to them in therms of skill. but she uses stealth tactics a lot too.
@erickagl17: I wasn’t talking about Oliver or Ras, I was just pointing out that she is more skilled than Cap and T’Challa
@erickagl17: I wasn’t talking about Oliver or Ras, I was just pointing out that she is more skilled than Cap and T’Challa
OH... yeah i agree on that one
@emmafrostxmen: I would debate you on that. Even with his enhanced physicals we've seen Cap tested in more situations then Natasha. Natasha would be equivolent to Batroc or Brock Rumlow in her training and her skills. Cap has definitively outskilled them both.
@usha: In S1 and S2 it was a common occurrence for Arrow to beat 20 men by himself and not even be tired at the end.
In S4 he has a feat of fighting "endless waves" of special forces level soldiers for a long time.
In S2 and S3 he defeated all the highest ninja from the League. In S4 he defeated all the immortal grandmasters of his universe.
He beat The Flash.
He led the charge versus an army of 9 foot tall, clawed aliens.
He grows with every season to the point where previous big bads who used to beat him, are now stomped. He even fought the villain from last season again, the guy who almost beat Ollie as just a peak human, while that villain was enhanced by a serum this time, and Arrow still won.
Recently he's been fighting teams of previous villains and he does pretty well.
@the_hajduk: Natasha was trained by the red room since she was a little girl, no one you stated experienced training like her
1 Green Arrow
2 Ra's al ghul
3 Slade Wilson
4 Adrian Chase/Sara Lance
5 Damien Darhk
6 Ben Turner
7Malcolm Merlyn/Matt Murdock
8 Danny Rand/Davos
- Daredevil
- Stick
- Ra's al Ghul (CW)
- Green Arrow
- Sara Lance
- Iron Fist
- Deathstroke
- Merlyn
- Davos
- Black Widow
That's with Standard Melee Weapons rather than Unarmed
I’ll place them in order of who would beat the others in a unarmed h2h fight.
Deathstroke(Assuming mirakuru)
Cap
Black Panther
Winter Soldier
Killmonger
Elektra(assuming Black Sky)
Arrow
Ras al ghul Arrow
Deathstroke(assuming no mirakuru)
Sara Lance
Bronze tiger
Merlyn
Daredevil
Iron Fist
Davos
Nobu
Batman DCEU
Stick
Nolan Bane
Nolan Batman/Ras al Ghul
Hawkeye
Colleen
Okoye
Black Widow
Elektra (pre Black Sky)
I think people confuse flashy flippy kicks with skill. Skill would be dropping people with one hit while not taking any hits.
Oliver solos your faves.
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